Actor Alec Baldwin shoots 2 people, killing one of them.
I think the major outcome from this incident is greater regulation pertaining to the use of weapons on movie sets. The head armorer Hannah Gutierrez-Reid has disclosed she felt she was too inexperienced to handle the role in an interview. Her appointment might just be incidental, every person needs to start somewhere when given greater responsibilities. It may just be it was too soon for her.
Whether there is indemnity insurance that covers professions like this? I don't know. Surgeons can be legally protected if they botch an operation so if its clearly an accident then the same might apply here.
ALWAYS treat the firearm you're holding as if it's actually loaded!
Yeah, I'm also talking to YOU, Alec!
BTW, what were REAL bullets doing on the film set, anyway? Don't people use fake props when filming?
Speculation=mine:
He should know that but the man grew up in the suburban NYC region and works in Hollywood not areas where most people own guns and people just know that.
My guess is just like Alec assumed when he was told “cold gun” there were no bullets everybody assumed as a long time Hollywood veteran somebody along the way had told Alec to treat all guns as if they are loaded but nobody had.
At this point I would not make too much out of the fact that police have not ruled out charging Alec with something. Maybe Alec was sleeping with the deceased and she was cheating on him so he staged an accident and the whole distraught thing is an actor acting. I doubt that happened but police have to look at all possibilities especially since live ammunition was on the set something that supposedly is not supposed to happen. I said supposedly because while I keep on reading live ammo is not supposed to be on movie sets the use of the terminology “hot gun” and “cold gun” suggests otherwise.
Utter absurdity.
If I am proved wrong, I will eat my anal glands.
(I have them pickled in a jar.
It's interesting to read the account of a journalist who almost shot their cameraman in similar circumstances, and how they interpret what occurred with Mr Baldwin...
Moments later, I accidentally pointed a loaded gun at his stomach and almost shot him. So, I understand a little of what Alec Baldwin must feel for shooting his cinematographer.
In August 2014, I was a TV reporter doing an investigation on a new gun law in DC. Jason was my photographer and editor. We were at the gun range to get b-roll because there was no stock video of guns at the TV station, other than crime scenes.
After walking up to Jason, I pulled my gun out the soft envelope in my bag to show him what I would be using inside. A rare gun owner in the TV news industry, Jason recalled what happened next.
“You handed the SIG to me you had a pointed at my abdomen. I moved to your left and toward you to get clear of the muzzle,” he said. “At the same time, I took the gun from your grip.”
I pointed a gun at his stomach.
I knew better. But I let the excitement to get to meet a work buddy at a shooting range and shoot my gun on TV take over my logical thoughts.
Jason took the gun and held it up at me and demanded to know why the hammer was back. I said that it’s easier to shoot that way.
He was clearly annoyed with me. He said I can’t just walk around with it like this. He pushed up the lever on the side to raise the hammer in place.
I was embarrassed. I was a public figure representing first-time gun owners and felt obligated to set a high bar for following safety rules. But I had pointed a gun at Jason and deliberately turned off the gun’s safety mechanism at home. This wasn’t even the worst part.
Jason turned the gun around to look inside the grip where the magazine holding the ammunition would be. It was empty. I had removed it at home and put it in my range bag.
It is illegal to drive through DC with a loaded gun in the back of the car, and I did not yet have a carry permit. I thought I was following the rules. I felt my confidence returning.
Jason reminded me what happened next.
“I then put my right hand on the handgrip and my left hand on the slide, racked the slide,” he said. “Since my left hand was over the ejection port the bullet was ejected into my hand. I showed it to you and you turned white as a ghost.”
The gun was loaded.
I felt my face flush and my heart race and my eyes fill with tears. Jason looked scared. He said something about his wife.
Jason recalled it this way: “When I showed you the round, your face went pale and you apologized profusely,” he said. “You handled it well. Glad we are still friends and can tell the story.”
Just a moment before, the gun had the hammer back, a live round in the chamber and was aimed at my cameraman. If I had slightly pulled the trigger when handing the gun to him, I would have shot Jason in the stomach. Just like Baldwin did to Halyna Hutchins and killed her.
I had written a book on getting a gun. I gave speeches on gun safety. I knew the rules, but that time, I didn’t follow them.
I pointed a gun at a person. And I did not assume the gun was loaded.
This is what Alec Baldwin apparently did on the set of his movie '“Rust.”
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Almost shooting my cameraman was the scariest thing that has happened to me in the 10 years since I first shot a gun.
It gives me a little bit of insight into how Alec Baldwin felt when he actually shot his director, Joel Souza, and killed his cinematographer, Halyna Hutchins. It’s the worst thing, and I’m grateful I don’t have to live with taking the life of a colleague.
On Wednesday, the Santa Fe Sheriff held a press conference and said that Baldwin shot a F.Lli Pietta .45-caliber Colt revolver with a live round at Hutchins. The lead projectile was found in Souza’s shoulder. (This means it went straight through Hutchins’s chest and into Souza where it stopped.)
I have never spoken about my near miss with Jason because I try to set a good example for gun safety. But now I think it’s more important for people to hear about common mistakes and learn from them.
The biggest lesson for me is when a situation is stressful— like a movie set — the actor or reporter has to be even more careful to abide by the safety rules exactly.
This is why military and police are trained, so the gun safety is muscle memory since they can’t think about rules when they are under high-stress situations.
If you have my book, Emily Gets Her Gun, read pages 73-77 about how I was taught the gun safety rules by my editor. It’s interesting for me to read now how I was afraid to pull the trigger when he put “snap caps” in it to practice. I still feel like I’m going to kill someone when I pull a trigger anywhere but in a range.
Rereading how I learned gun safety is why I disagree with the people who say Hollywood actors should all take a class. I think it’s most useful to be told the safety rules by someone else (or read a poster) every time before you shoot.
The rules are not complicated. They are crafted so that if one fails, the other two secure the situation.
For example in the incident with Jason, even though I didn’t assume the gun was loaded, and it was not pointed in a safe direction, I didn’t have my finger on the trigger. That is what saved me from having to call his wife and tell her I shot her husband at work.
The three rules are: always assume a gun is loaded, keep the gun pointed in a safe direction, keep your finger off the trigger until you’re ready to shoot.
I ask someone at the range to repeat these to me every time because I don’t trust my memory. I don’t shoot often enough for it to be second nature. Repetition is key.
[...]
The publisher wanted a photo taken of me holding the gun directly at the camera. I said no. I was under intense stress. I couldn’t do something that was against everything I learned. She then pushed the publicist to convince me that it was perfectly safe to point the gun at the camera since it was unloaded. She knew that because she heard the range officer assigned to handle this photo shoot had handed me the gun and said it was unloaded.
That is the same circumstances as when the assistant director handed the gun to Baldwin and said it was “cold.”
But the NRA officer was more diligent. He held the gun up so I could see inside where the magazine would be. Then he pulled back the slide and let me look down the chamber to see if there was an extra round. But I was still nervous about having a gun with so many distractions around me so I repeated the safety checks with the gun in my own hands. I knew it was unloaded.
I didn’t even like passing it back and forth with the range officer. Not that I didn’t trust him, but because it was one more thing for me to think about every time I took a break or changed my position. Anyone who is not in added stress when in possession of a gun is an idiot.
The shoot went late. I was hot. I was tired. My bleeding feet hurt. I was worried about getting the right shot before the end of the session. They had me pose in many different ways. I wasn’t sharp. I wasn’t able to think clearly.
Finally, the female photographer tried to convince me herself. She said that she wasn’t at all scared I would accidentally shoot her. She told me to stop worrying on her behalf.
I said no. I can’t do it. There were at least 10 people in this photo shoot, and I was too nervous that I would get distracted by all the activity and shoot something or someone.
In the end, the photographer took hundreds of photos of me with a gun in all possible angles and directions, but none of the muzzle at the camera. It’s better to be hated by the bosses than accidentally shoot someone on set.
Source: https://www.emilypostnews.com/p/i-almost-shot-my-cameraman
In related (but satirical) news:
Luckily, the stormtrooper missed everyone and everything.
“I just remember lasers going everywhere and ducking behind the snack table,” said assistant director Pete Vickersburger shortly after the event. “Thankfully Lucas the stormtrooper missed the crew, actors, snack table, cameras, props, snack cart, filming tent, snack delivery guy, and the floor.”
Other crew members looked distressed, but those willing to be interviewed attributed the stress to another issue that has impeded filming of next season: that the stormtroopers also seem to miss even when they're supposed to hit targets.
“Earlier that day several of us had walked off the set to protest the fact that the stormtroopers could not hit anything even when they were supposed to. We’ve wasted three weeks just trying to film this one shootout,” said the crew member in charge of guarding the snack table.
When the stormtroopers eventually hit their target during filming, everyone celebrated and gave each other high fives except the stormtroopers, who missed.
Source: https://babylonbee.com/news/nobody-hurt-after-stormtrooper-accidentally-discharges-238-live-laser-rounds-on-set-of-the-mandalorian
Matthew Hutchins has hired the firm Panish, Shea, Boyle and Ravipudi in Los Angeles, TMZ reports.
Sources told the outlet that there will be multiple defendants in the suit and it will be filed on behalf of Matthew and their son Andros, nine, following her death on October 21.
Source: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10162947/Husband-Halyna-Hutchins-hired-lawyers-set-file-wrongful-death-lawsuit.html
Uggh, that makes my skin crawl to read, clearing the chamber after dropping the magazine really should be second nature to any gun owner who shoots an automatic, and yet I hear so many stories of negligent discharges under similar circumstances; having the gun pre-cocked in the range bag is just another level of bad practice. I keep my pistols loaded and chambered as they're what I'm most likely to grab in a bump in the night scenario, but my rifles are kept with full magazines and empty chambers just as an extra precaution, rifles are typically less drop safe than pistols, and much easier to lean against something and knock over, plus I can drop the bolt pretty fast if I have to.
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Source: https://babylonbee.com/news/nobody-hurt-after-stormtrooper-accidentally-discharges-238-live-laser-rounds-on-set-of-the-mandalorian
That's almost satire of satire, as the Mandalorian openly lampshades the Stormtroopers can't hit anything joke.
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Here's the right's orange messiah trying to get some payback:
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/tru ... 01659.html
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What is wrong with that man?
He just can't help himself.
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What is wrong with that man?
He just can't help himself.
Psychopaths rarely can help but do something objectional.
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https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/tru ... 01659.html
What is wrong with that man?
He just can't help himself.
Psychopaths rarely can help but do something objectional.
I would call him a narcissist, rather than a psychopath.
Neither are good.
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What is wrong with that man?
He just can't help himself.
Psychopaths rarely can help but do something objectional.
I would call him a narcissist, rather than a psychopath.
Neither are good.
Narcissism is in fact a symptom of psychopathy.
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I'm not seeing anything particularly "wrong" with this portion of what he said, either:
I'm sure, had the positions been reversed, that Mr Baldwin would have been considerably more outspoken on this than Mr Trump is being, and those complaining about Mr Trump's words now would have been happy to make the same type of comment about which they are now complaining...
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/tru ... 01659.html
What is wrong with that man?
He just can't help himself.
Psychopaths rarely can help but do something objectional.
I would call him a narcissist, rather than a psychopath.
Neither are good.
Narcissism is in fact a symptom of psychopathy.
The primary characteristic of narcissism is self luv, I believe.
It is human nature to be selfish and boastful to a certain degree and there is a significant difference between being narcissist and self-absorbed and those having a mental illness or the pathology of narcissistic personality disorder.[3]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissism
Psychopaths have a different DX:
Are Narcissists Psychopaths? | HealthyPlace
https://www.healthyplace.com › psychopath › the-narcissi...
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His *speculation* was unnecessary.
Typical Trump over-extending himself.
In other words, "Illusionary Superiority" as was indicated with the "Drink Bleach" brain-storming incident.
He doesn't seem to understand why it is unnecessary, particularly for a politician, to venture into this territory.
Trump's diplomatic skills are essentially non-existent, imo.
But this fits into the definition of being a "Narcissist".
