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10 Mar 2022, 6:36 pm

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And it was his class that he was looking out for while playing "man of the people."


The man of the people I was talking about is Bernie Sanders. I thought that was clear from my sarcasm and discussion of Democratic politics.

Here's a sample of what he was up against.

‘Stop Sanders’ Democrats Are Agonizing Over His Momentum


Yes, I was aware of that. I just thought I'd add that Trump was one of those oligarchs Bernie opposes.
My wife and I had been Bernie supporters back in the Prez election before last.


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11 Mar 2022, 12:36 am

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my uncivil service pension was delayed almost a fkkking YEAR! in a process only supposed to take a couple of months. my congressmen told me he was stiff-armed by trumpy's people he installed in OMB, who were likely told to slow application processing way down or limited by personnel cuts.


More than enough reason for me to hate Trump!


People have reason to hate Biden, also. :wink:


Well, they hate Biden, sure. But do they have any real, sane reason for their hatred, other than believing the crap that he stole the election from Trump, or some other loony reason?


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Kinda unavoidable with the problems with Russia, an oil producing country.


Seriously?
Prices were going through the roof before Ukraine.
Trump warned about it.
He was right, sorry. ;)



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11 Mar 2022, 12:38 am

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Kinda unavoidable with the problems with Russia, an oil producing country.


Indeed, but when you think about it, it's kind of an admission that the folks who think those stickers are clever aren't very well-informed or interested in understanding all of the facts in context before reaching their conclusions. It's not about facts or reason, it's about their emotions and a hurr durr libs bad, reactionaries good understanding of politics.


:lmao:



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11 Mar 2022, 12:44 am

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Trump warns on 'scary' inflation, says surging prices will 'ravage our country'

Adam Shapiro·Anchor
October 5, 2021·

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-on ... 54856.html

Take note of the date stamp. ;)
Trump was even talking about Biden asking Russia for more oil. 8O :mrgreen:



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11 Mar 2022, 12:53 am

Skunk of the southern continent:

Oil prices had been down under Trump because everything was shut down because of Covid. Not nearly as much driving going on in those days.
If Trump's ever seemingly right about anything, it's purely by accident. And that's not just partisan talk.


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11 Mar 2022, 2:15 am

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Oil prices had been down under Trump because everything was shut down because of Covid. Not nearly as much driving going on in those days.
If Trump's ever seemingly right about anything, it's purely by accident. And that's not just partisan talk.


Firstly, the underlined is evidence of hyperpartisanship.
I can't take your comment seriously.
Just because you don't like him doesn't mean he can't have a positive idea.
While I don't like Trump, I think pressuring NATO to pull its weight was a good idea, as an example.

This is the difference between someone who is following a narrative and someone who focuses on the Trump Truth.

Biden revoking Keystone was a mistake, and is contributing to the fuel prices.

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Keystone XL pipeline nixed after Biden stands firm on permit

The sponsor of the Keystone XL crude oil pipeline says it's pulling the plug on the contentious project after Canadian officials failed to persuade the Biden administration to reverse its cancellation of the company's permit

https://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireSto ... t-78183771

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While it's customary to blame politicians for inflation, the Biden administration isn't fully to blame for higher inflation. However, many people think that Biden’s energy policy, which is tilted towards green energy, is leading to higher oil prices in the U.S. There certainly is some merit to that argument.

https://marketrealist.com/p/what-is-cau ... tion-2021/



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11 Mar 2022, 2:23 am

Pepe wrote:
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Skunk of the southern continent:

Oil prices had been down under Trump because everything was shut down because of Covid. Not nearly as much driving going on in those days.
If Trump's ever seemingly right about anything, it's purely by accident. And that's not just partisan talk.


Firstly, the underlined is evidence of hyperpartisanship.
I can't take your comment seriously.
Just because you don't like him doesn't mean he can't have a positive idea.
While I don't like Trump, I think pressuring NATO to pull its weight was a good idea, as an example.

This is the difference between someone who is following a narrative and someone who focuses on the Trump Truth.

Biden revoking Keystone was a mistake, and is contributing to the fuel prices.

Quote:
Keystone XL pipeline nixed after Biden stands firm on permit

The sponsor of the Keystone XL crude oil pipeline says it's pulling the plug on the contentious project after Canadian officials failed to persuade the Biden administration to reverse its cancellation of the company's permit

https://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireSto ... t-78183771

Also:
Quote:
While it's customary to blame politicians for inflation, the Biden administration isn't fully to blame for higher inflation. However, many people think that Biden’s energy policy, which is tilted towards green energy, is leading to higher oil prices in the U.S. There certainly is some merit to that argument.

https://marketrealist.com/p/what-is-cau ... tion-2021/


Trump had made it clear he didn't think NATO should exist anymore - at least with America as a member - and had used the complaint of its members not "pulling their own weight" as a pretext to eventually leave. He had tried bullying our allies, all while sucking up to Putin.
The Keystone pipeline has been opposed by American citizens whose land it would run through, and possibly damage the environment. Those people have the right to have their will known, and not just the oil oligarchy.


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11 Mar 2022, 4:56 am

 ! Cornflake wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Skunk of the southern continent:

Oil prices had been down under Trump because everything was shut down because of Covid. Not nearly as much driving going on in those days.
If Trump's ever seemingly right about anything, it's purely by accident. And that's not just partisan talk.


Firstly, the underlined is evidence of hyperpartisanship.
I can't take your comment seriously.

Pepe, very little of what you post can be taken seriously and much of that consists of partisan lecturing like this. ^
You might want to consider a more involved and better informed approach instead of Stonewalling discussion.


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11 Mar 2022, 5:08 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
my uncivil service pension was delayed almost a fkkking YEAR! in a process only supposed to take a couple of months. my congressmen told me he was stiff-armed by trumpy's people he installed in OMB, who were likely told to slow application processing way down or limited by personnel cuts.


More than enough reason for me to hate Trump!


People have reason to hate Biden, also. :wink:


Well, they hate Biden, sure. But do they have any real, sane reason for their hatred, other than believing the crap that he stole the election from Trump, or some other loony reason?


Yes they do. Unless that is Biden is some sort of messiah who can do no wrong. Sound familiar?



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11 Mar 2022, 5:14 am

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Trump had made it clear he didn't think NATO should exist anymore - at least with America as a member - and had used the complaint of its members not "pulling their own weight" as a pretext to eventually leave. He had tried bullying our allies, all while sucking up to Putin.


I've already explained to you the political tactics involved.
The bottom line is that Trump didn't take Ammmuuuria out of NATO.

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The Keystone pipeline has been opposed by American citizens whose land it would run through, and possibly damage the environment. Those people have the right to have their will known, and not just the oil oligarchy.


This is a non-sequitur.

The fact remains, the Keystone pipeline could have replaced most of the oil import that, until recently, came from Russia.
Now that the oil from Russia is being sanctioned by Ammmuuuria also, Biden has to look for additional oil from places like Saudi Arabia and even Iran.
This is a very messy state of affairs by any measure.



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11 Mar 2022, 5:19 am

Matrix Glitch wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
my uncivil service pension was delayed almost a fkkking YEAR! in a process only supposed to take a couple of months. my congressmen told me he was stiff-armed by trumpy's people he installed in OMB, who were likely told to slow application processing way down or limited by personnel cuts.


More than enough reason for me to hate Trump!


People have reason to hate Biden, also. :wink:


Well, they hate Biden, sure. But do they have any real, sane reason for their hatred, other than believing the crap that he stole the election from Trump, or some other loony reason?


Yes they do. Unless that is Biden is some sort of messiah who can do no wrong. Sound familiar?


Biden has many flaws that any objective observer could see.



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11 Mar 2022, 7:27 am

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The damage Biden has done to our country is astounding,

Could you give an example?



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11 Mar 2022, 10:40 am

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The damage Biden has done to our country is astounding,

Could you give an example?


I would, but only if someone else asks me. I've already stated my case to you multiple times in other threads.


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11 Mar 2022, 10:59 am

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The damage Biden has done to our country is astounding,

Could you give an example?


I would, but only if someone else asks me. I've already stated my case to you multiple times in other threads.

OK, so do I take it you're talking about Senator Biden rather than President Biden?#

(Also, kindly refrain from personal remarks :) )



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11 Mar 2022, 11:03 am

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Kinda unavoidable with the problems with Russia, an oil producing country.


Indeed, but when you think about it, it's kind of an admission that the folks who think those stickers are clever aren't very well-informed or interested in understanding all of the facts in context before reaching their conclusions. It's not about facts or reason, it's about their emotions and a hurr durr libs bad, reactionaries good understanding of politics.


:lmao:


Case in point... :wink:


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11 Mar 2022, 3:35 pm

Pepe wrote:
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Trump had made it clear he didn't think NATO should exist anymore - at least with America as a member - and had used the complaint of its members not "pulling their own weight" as a pretext to eventually leave. He had tried bullying our allies, all while sucking up to Putin.


I've already explained to you the political tactics involved.
The bottom line is that Trump didn't take Ammmuuuria out of NATO.

Kraichgauer wrote:
The Keystone pipeline has been opposed by American citizens whose land it would run through, and possibly damage the environment. Those people have the right to have their will known, and not just the oil oligarchy.


This is a non-sequitur.

The fact remains, the Keystone pipeline could have replaced most of the oil import that, until recently, came from Russia.
Now that the oil from Russia is being sanctioned by Ammmuuuria also, Biden has to look for additional oil from places like Saudi Arabia and even Iran.
This is a very messy state of affairs by any measure.


No, Trump hadn't taken America out of NATO - - thank the Lord. But according to Bolton and others, he had certainly wanted to. Again, the whole "nobody's paying their fair share" was just a pretext for it. His chummy relations with Putin, and his hostility to our NATO allies, proved he was going in that direction.
As America is supposed to be a democracy, the government can't just steamroll over their people to build a pipeline, even if later events meant it would have been favorable.


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