just curious but why is being a Muslim seen as being...
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iamnotaparakeet wrote:
I know a lot of Somalis in my area, only one of whom is a Christian. Their type of Islam I don't mind so much, but the Iranian variety I don't care for. Nor the kind of Hamas, or Hezbollah, or any kind that advocates martyrdom.
I have also lived with many somali neighbors they are can be very polite and kind and are good neighbors, they also voluntarily follow the most extreme form of islam they are Sunnis. I also have very extensive experience with iranians they are hands down the most subtle , socially complex, giving and kind culture I have seen in islam and they are the LEAST religious of all muslims, the sunnis dont even consider them true muslims they are Shia . You must learn to differentiate between the people and their government , the iranian people are dying in the streets and defying firing riot police to prove they disagree with the mullahs .
ruveyn wrote:
AspE wrote:
There is no logic to it. Muslim have a bad reputation, we are supposed to hate them. It's irrational and xenophobic, although there are many US Muslims and even one Muslim congressman. Islam is no more violent and stupid than the other religions... well, maybe a little more violent.
A little more violent? There is hardly a day that passes when an enthusiastic Muslim does not blow himself and his enemies to smithereens with an explosive pack. A quick way to eternal life and getting laid by 72 gorgeous virgins. In societies where access to women is highly restricted the temptation for a young man with his hormones boiling over to blow himself up in order to get laid is considerable. 99.9 percent of the suicide martyrs are young males. That is no coincidence.
The explosion of the suicide-martyr explosive pack and the I.E.D. is the new Muslim call to prayer.
ruveyn
A little more violent? There is hardly a day that passes when an enthusiastic Muslim does not blow himself and his enemies to smithereens with an explosive pack. A quick way to eternal life and getting laid by 72 gorgeous virgins. In societies where access to women is highly restricted the temptation for a young man with his hormones boiling over to blow himself up in order to get laid is considerable. 99.9 percent of the suicide martyrs are young males. That is no coincidence.
The explosion of the suicide-martyr explosive pack and the I.E.D. is the new Muslim call to prayer.
ruveyn
Then, how do you explain the use of suicide attacks that are grounded in other cultures, such as the Tamil and Sinhalese conflict? What of historical suicide attacks, such as the assassination of Alexander II, or the Kamikaze? I certainly don't deny that the majority of suicide attacks are perpetrated by jihadin but to suggest that this is linked to sexual repression is a leap of logic that I am not prepared to support.
As for the appeal of martyrdom, the Christian churches, and in particular the Roman Catholic church have been no less enthusiastic than islam in the glorification of martyrs. The canonization fast-track for martyrs surely suggests a Roman Catholic belief that those who die in the defence of the faith are in the short queue for admission to heaven.
So perhaps your observations should rest less on the religious belief of the particular suicide attackers that you focus on, and rather upon the more general appeal of martyrdom for those who believe themselves to be oppressed, and lack access to the education and resources to bring their people out of that oppression.
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