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The_Face_of_Boo
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15 Mar 2020, 1:21 pm

Bill Gates was right.



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15 Mar 2020, 1:28 pm

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Several weeks ago I purchased an specific air cleaner in preparation for the coronavirus pandemic. It was an OION Technologies B-1000. I put it in my bedroom and have been running it constantly for around 1 1/2 weeks now. So I thought I would give my impressions about the unit.

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The main reason why I purchased the unit was to destroy coronaviruses free floating in the air. Far Ultraviolet (UVC) radiation destroys viruses and bacteria. In a low humidity environment viruses can dry out and become airborne. It doesn't kill them. These lightweight small particles can become airborne, someone can breathe in the virus into their throats where they can become attached and these viruses will rehydrated and infect a person. So my main objective was to buy a unit that has a UV-C sanitizer. The closest I stumbled across was this unit. It is pretty bare bones. The unit includes an electrostatic collecting, ozone filter and activated carbon filter, powerful UV lamp and a negative ionizer.

So my impressions:
1. The unit is eliminating free floating particles from the air. I had asthma for most of my life and have a high sensitivity. I have observed the air is dramatically cleaner.
2. Another strange observation is that the room felt a little colder than normal. [This observation makes a little sense because free floating particles in the air can act like a thermal insulator. But I suspect that the effect is so small that no one could actually feel it.]
3. This unit was whisper quiet. This is conducive with sleeping. Many years ago I had a HEPA air filter. The motor was larger because it was forcing air though a constricted thick filter. It was noisy, made sleep difficult and produced a musky odor that I found annoying so I packed it up and put it into storage in the pole barn.
4. The air coming out of the unit had a freshness and crispness to it. Sort of like the air you get in the middle of winter after a fresh snowfall. Not exactly the same but close.
5. So I have found that I was able to get a better nights sleep with the unit. It is reducing the free floating particles from the air. It made the air purer so I could breath better during the night. It makes it easier to breath.

So I am giving it a thumbs up. I cannot confirm that it is effectively killing the viruses because viruses are incredibly small critters. But if the unit was designed properly, it would be very effective at that task. But for any Aspies who find it very difficult to get a restful sleep at night or those who suffer from Asthma, I suspect you would find a great benefit with this type of air purifier.



Thanks fr sharing. My dad has severe asthma and has had pneumonia several times already. Perhaps he can look into this


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15 Mar 2020, 1:39 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Bill Gates was right.


“ This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
Not with a bang but a whimper.”
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15 Mar 2020, 1:47 pm

The world has gone through worse things already.
The quarantine is important so the healthcare systems do not get badly overloaded. It's an inconvenience for everyone to save as many as possible lives of the vulnerable minority. I think it's fair.


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15 Mar 2020, 1:57 pm

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The world has gone through worse things already.
The quarantine is important so the healthcare systems do not get badly overloaded. It's an inconvenience for everyone to save as many as possible lives of the vulnerable minority. I think it's fair.


Exactly. It's an ethical honour to support those who are vulnerable. The older generations have done so much for us, and it's time to return the favour. Likewise for anyone else who is at risk. I feel good knowing I'm helping others however I can.


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15 Mar 2020, 2:47 pm

Further proof that Trump is a verminous abomination of a human being .


Trump 'offers large sums' for exclusive access to coronavirus vaccine

German government tries to fight off aggressive takeover bid by US, say reports

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... us-vaccine


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15 Mar 2020, 2:53 pm

Mexico wants to restrict Americans from crossing border.
Dirty viral Gringos.
https://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2020/03 ... exico.html


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15 Mar 2020, 3:55 pm

I came across an interesting article that might explain the high concentration of COVID-19 in Italy.

Many Italians in Northern Italy have sold their leather goods and textiles companies to China. Italy then allowed 100,000 Chinese workers from Wuhan and Wenzhou to move to Italy to work in these factories, with direct flights between Wuhan and Northern Italy. This continued post outbreak, so is it mere coincidence that Northern Italy is now Europe’s hotspot for Corona Virus?

Source: CORONA VIRUS EXCLUSIVE: WHY ITALY?


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15 Mar 2020, 4:22 pm

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/co ... y-n1159491

I hope these teachers walk out, or go on strike.

It's ridiculous to say it's their role to provide daycare services, feed children and sanitise the environment.

They have children too, who may need care at home. Such BS.


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15 Mar 2020, 4:34 pm

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https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/coronavirus-outbreak-nyc-teachers-furious-over-de-blasio-s-policy-n1159491

I hope these teachers walk out, or go on strike.

It's ridiculous to say it's their role to provide daycare services, feed children and sanitise the environment.

They have children too, who may need care at home. Such BS.


If babysitting for medical and first responders is the reason for not cancelling classes, they could at least do some thinning of the population. I think K-6 may need babysitting while 7-12 should be responsible enough to stay home if they don't need food. Send some of the kindergarten kids to the high school.



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15 Mar 2020, 4:41 pm

Bravo5150 wrote:
IsabellaLinton wrote:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/coronavirus-outbreak-nyc-teachers-furious-over-de-blasio-s-policy-n1159491

I hope these teachers walk out, or go on strike.

It's ridiculous to say it's their role to provide daycare services, feed children and sanitise the environment.

They have children too, who may need care at home. Such BS.


If babysitting for medical and first responders is the reason for not cancelling classes, they could at least do some thinning of the population. I think K-6 may need babysitting while 7-12 should be responsible enough to stay home if they don't need food. Send some of the kindergarten kids to the high school.


Why are Chicago and LA able to figure it out, but not NYC ... where teachers ride the subways and have such huge impoverished classes? It's not their job to provide daycare. They have their own children and aging parents to care for. Their children don't necessarily attend NYC schools and their classes could be shut down. It's a statewide emergency with NYC as an epicentre. I know nothing about US politics but it seems if other states can get their shite together, New York should too.

I'd walk out, myself. I'm not a lackey for someone else's social experiment.


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15 Mar 2020, 4:43 pm

NYC schools will close

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New York City’s schools will close Monday and remain shut till at least April 20, Mayor Bill de Blasio said Sunday.

De Blasio — facing a coup from parents and teachers over his refusal to close city schools amid the coronavirus — added that it is possible “we may have to go out” for the rest of the school year.

He said remote learning would begin March 23.

“It is quite clear that this crisis is growing intensely,” de Blasio said. “This is a decision I have taken with no joy.”

He said the decision was “something not in a million years I could have imagined” having to do.

In the morning, the mayor was still stubbornly repeating his opposition to the move, insisting he was “very reticent” to shut down the largest school system in the country because of such things as leaving healthcare and emergency-services workers scrambling for childcare.

De Blasio’s about-face came soon after The Post published an online editorial Sunday urging him to “close the schools!” — reflecting increasingly harsh criticism over de Blasio’s failure to do what scores of other districts around the metro area, state and country have done to contain the deadly and particularly contagious coronavirus.

The city teachers union had vowed to file a complaint with the state Department of Labor on Monday arguing that the schools were “unsafe” to be in, while Queens Borough President Sharon Lee urged parents to keep their kids home from school even before de Blasio finally made his announcement.

The move came after Cuomo reversed course on the issue, too.

“Bureaucracies do not adjust quickly, but sometimes they have to, and this is one of those times that they have to, and I want them to sit down, figure it out,” the governor told reporters earlier in the afternoon.

He later added on 1010 WINS radio that “all schools down state” would close.

His office soon issued a press release saying city schools were closed.

The city now “must develop a plan within the next 24 hours to ensure children who rely on school breakfast and lunch programs will continue to receive that support, and parents — especially critical healthcare workers and first responders – will be provided access to child care as needed,” the governor.

He said those in Westchester County also would shutter as would those in Nassau and Suffolk counties.

The governor had also said he had concerns about what city healthcare and emergency responders with school-age kids would do if schools closed, as well as over students who rely on government food programs during the week.

De Blasio acknowledged earlier Sunday that his administration did not have a finalized contingency plan in place for an across-the-board closure, despite weeks of warnings about the contagion.


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15 Mar 2020, 4:50 pm

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I think K-6 may need babysitting while 7-12 should be responsible enough to stay home if they don't need food. Send some of the kindergarten kids to the high school.


Whoa! Wait a second. I didn't see this. You would recommend sending four and five year olds to random, unfamiliar high schools so the teachers there can have even more souls to worry about? The teachers are already overburdened. Or, do you mean that you'd send them to the care of disgruntled teenaged students who don't want to be in school either? Would you let your child go? I'd sooner take my child to work with me than take such chances on their wellbeing.

I understand the pressure on parents to care for their kids. This is a nightmare for families, financially. I get that and I have empathy for that. But at the end of the day it's New York's job to figure it out, not the teachers'. State and Federal funding or new initiatives need to be implemented asap but putting kids, teachers and support staff in danger during a statewide health emergency is unforgivable. It's insane.


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15 Mar 2020, 4:54 pm

ASPartOfMe: Thanks for posting that. I thought I was gonna have a coronary. :heart:

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15 Mar 2020, 4:58 pm

IsabellaLinton wrote:
Bravo5150 wrote:
I think K-6 may need babysitting while 7-12 should be responsible enough to stay home if they don't need food. Send some of the kindergarten kids to the high school.


Whoa! Wait a second. I didn't see this. You would recommend sending four and five year olds to random, unfamiliar high schools so the teachers there can have even more souls to worry about? The teachers are already overburdened. Or, do you mean that you'd send them to the care of disgruntled teenaged students who don't want to be in school either? Would you let your child go? I'd sooner take my child to work with me than take such chances on their wellbeing.

I understand the pressure on parents to care for their kids. This is a nightmare for families, financially. I get that and I have empathy for that. But at the end of the day it's New York's job to figure it out, not the teachers'. State and Federal funding or new initiatives need to be implemented asap but putting kids, teachers and support staff in danger during a statewide health emergency is unforgivable. It's insane.


I am saying make school optional for the older kids. Unless the older kids rely on the schools for food, they will choose to stay home and watch TV. With 90 percent of the 8-12 graders at home, you can send some of the younger kids to an abandoned high school so at least things aren't as crowded and you can at least have some social distancing.