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cyberdad
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21 Sep 2019, 9:40 pm

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the European colonizers came in and mass murderered, raped, tortured and removed them from their homes. What the f**k did you expect them to do! Israel is a terrorist state and was founded on terrorism against the British and others.

The irony shouldn't escape your notice that the US was founded in exactly the same way. European colonisers committed genocide of the natives and removed the survivors from their homes. The US was founded by a terrorist state led by George Washington and was founded by terrorism against the British. Nobody expects the US to give back their country to native Americans nor does anyone expect the Israelis to give their country to the Palestinians.

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the Black Panthers did do that, as in black people to kill whites, does that justify the billion times less awful treatment black people got from the US government in the 60s? And that is some fantasist comparison anyway. Palestinians in the occupied territories aren't part of Israel.

There's plenty of archaeological evidence that Palestinians inhabited the lands now called Lebanon and only occupied what is Israel after islamic expansion expelling the Jews who (we all know) moved to Europe. Again irony that it's the Palestinians who occupied traditional Jewish land and there's no argument that Jewish people are indigenous to their lands.

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thats racist garbage. Gaza and the West Bank aren't part of Israel! And Palestinians in Israel have been made second class citizens by law. You're ignorance and racism is astounding. You can cut the c**p by crowing about racism in America and elsewhere from now on. It's so obvious why you do it.


Why is it obvious? The west bank and Gaza have been conceded to the Palestinians. Instead of developing these lands they have called on HAMAS to attack Israel. That sounds ungrateful.



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22 Sep 2019, 7:10 am

That was in the past and pretty much everyone accepts it was horribly wrong. Where as Israel is still carrying out its atrocities today and continues to steal land. Native Americans aren't kept in a cage and murdered every week. They are free to move around the country.

There's zero evidence for that racist drivel and the 'land without people's' myth was debunked in the 1980's by Norman Finkelstein. I've gone through this a million times BUT YOU NEVER LEARN ANYTHING.
There's no such thing as 'Jewish land' like there is no such thing as 'white land'. Judaism was founded in the area but it's always been Palestine and Palestinians have always been there too. Judaism stemming from the land doesn't give the right to a bunch of Europeans to colonise and murder their way in.

What in the f**k are you talking about? Gaza has a cage round it controlled by Israel from the outside and it controls the waters, skies and everything going into Gaza. The West Bank is illegally occupied by Israel and Netanyahu just pledged to annex it. Israel bulldozes Palestinian homes and builds Jewish racial colonies on top. And they have Jewish only roads.

I hope you absorb what I say for once cause this is my last post to you. I'm not even an anti racist activist but your sadistic racist drivel is making me feel Ill.


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22 Sep 2019, 5:01 pm

I actually want Israel to make more concessions to the Palestinian people, particularly those in Gaza and the West Bank. The Jews have made many sacrifices over the centuries and I am sure they are capable of coming to an arrangement with the Palestinians to make this work.

I think Jerusalem should be better managed for a start. I frankly don't see the Jewish obsession over religious access and it should really live up to it's name as an abode of peace where all three religions can come in peace.

In return the Palestinians need to give up armed resistance, it's a no-brainer, I hope they can see a future for their kids but it's up to them. Either way neither you or I have a stake in this future or any influence for that matter.