Iowa woman runs over 14yo girl “because she was a Mexican”

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24 Dec 2019, 2:49 am

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Trump is ultimately reducing racism by restoring law and order to immigration.

that is another way of saying he is reducing racism by reducing other races.

How can you hate on "illegal aliens" if they don't exist?


You can still hate on 'aliens' who aren't.
They will still hate on 'aliens' who are citizens, just like they do now.

You're essentially arguing their racism will go away simply because it's being aggravated less often.


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24 Dec 2019, 2:57 am

i could not care less about what the orange menace and his hordes vomit about POC. and you are really [perhaps unintentionally] making a negative commentary about the intelligence of the people for whom mexicans are ok so long as they are out of sight [out of mind]. do you really want to say that about the magas, of which you presumably are also one?



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24 Dec 2019, 2:59 am

TheRobotLives wrote:
There's like 30 million illegal alien Mexicans.

are you willing to do the squat labor under harsh conditions that traditionally have been consigned to the latin americans? if not, what are you to say to farming operations for whom this source of labor is essential to stay in business?



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24 Dec 2019, 3:03 am

TheRobotLives wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
TheRobotLives wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
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Trump is ultimately reducing racism by restoring law and order to immigration.

that is another way of saying he is reducing racism by reducing other races.

How can you hate on "illegal aliens" if they don't exist?


You can still hate on 'aliens' who aren't.
They will still hate on 'aliens' who are citizens, just like they do now.

You're essentially arguing their racism will go away simply because it's being aggravated less often.

Right, take away the reasons people are angry at Mexicans.

There's like 30 million illegal alien Mexicans.


I'm not only referring to Mexicans.


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24 Dec 2019, 3:08 am

auntblabby wrote:
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There's like 30 million illegal alien Mexicans.

are you willing to do the squat labor under harsh conditions that traditionally have been consigned to the latin americans? if not, what are you to say to farming operations for whom this source of labor is essential to stay in business?

No, we can get these people legalized.

Trump has consistently supported amnesty for illegal aliens.

Trump’s Draft Amnesty: Citizenship for Illegal Alien Population Six Times the Size of Obama’s DACA
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2018 ... amas-daca/


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24 Dec 2019, 3:17 am

the obscenity called "the maga wall" is a poison pill.



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24 Dec 2019, 3:17 am

auntblabby wrote:
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There's like 30 million illegal alien Mexicans.

are you willing to do the squat labor under harsh conditions that traditionally have been consigned to the latin americans? if not, what are you to say to farming operations for whom this source of labor is essential to stay in business?


The idea that 30 million people are in this country illegally just to pick lettuce is pretty nonsensical.

And on top of that it is basically wanting what amounts to sweat shop slave labor to continue.

"We need all those poor primitive darkies to pick our cotton for us for 35 cents an hour, because that's no job for a white man".



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24 Dec 2019, 3:24 am

EzraS wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
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There's like 30 million illegal alien Mexicans.

are you willing to do the squat labor under harsh conditions that traditionally have been consigned to the latin americans? if not, what are you to say to farming operations for whom this source of labor is essential to stay in business?


And on top of that it is basically wanting what amounts to sweat shop slave labor to continue.

"We need all those poor primitive darkies to pick our cotton for us for 35 cents an hour, because that's no job for a white man".


I wholeheartedly concur with this. If the goal is to keep people without any permanent status, where they can be exploited by both kinds of criminal enterprises (as in both otherwise legit businesses who violate labour and other codes as well as crime syndicates) because of their insecure status, that's a pretty horrible reason to want those people here.


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24 Dec 2019, 5:02 am

Nicole Marie Poole Franklin shortly after attempting to murder a 14 yr old went to a convenience store where she threw items at a clerk and directed racial epithets at him and customers. That incident prompted the new charges.

After her arrest she was reportedly also made other “derogatory remarks” about Hispanic people.

textbook hate crime, waiting for some information about Poole but the police/media seem to be tight lipped. Perhaps she owns a MAGA hat?



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24 Dec 2019, 8:27 am

It really upsets me that members take it upon themselves to blame everything on Trump. It really fits the definition of Trump Derangement Syndrome. Rather than blame the guilty, blame is automatically transferred to someone who has no real involvement.

The blame in this case is with Nicole Marie Poole Franklin. She is to blame. She has exhibited an evil act. Now there is a bit of a track record that is starting to appear.

The Iowa woman who allegedly ran down a 14-year-old pedestrian Dec. 9 because she thought the girl was "a Mexican," has now been linked to an incident one hour earlier in which a 12-year-old black youth was struck in a similar fashion, according to a report.

In the earlier incident, Nicole Marie Poole Franklin, 42, is accused of hitting the 12-year-old black boy with her Jeep Cherokee SUV as he walked on a sidewalk within an apartment complex property in Des Moines, the Des Moines Register reported.

Franklin faces new charges of attempted murder in connection with the previously undisclosed case, the Des Moines police said. Witnesses to that incident told police Franklin’s SUV accelerated prior to hitting the unidentified boy and caused minor injuries, the newspaper reported.

In the initial incident for which Franklin was charged, the driver is accused of striking the girl with her vehicle in Clive, Iowa, and fleeing without rendering assistance, police said. The girl suffered multiple injuries and required hospitalization, the report said.

Detectives charged Franklin after identifying her Thursday as the hit-and-run driver and interviewing her at a local jail where she was being held in an unrelated case, Clive Police Chief Michael Venema said in a news release.

Police used video surveillance footage to tie that hit and run to Franklin’s SUV, Sgt. Paul Parizek of the Des Moines police wrote in an email.

Franklin was charged with attempted murder, Venema said.

Additional charges Franklin faced involved an incident where she allegedly assaulted a Des Moines convenience store clerk with racist remarks.

About an hour after Miranda was struck by Franklin’s vehicle, West Des Moines police were summoned to a gas station where Franklin allegedly stole merchandise and referred to employees and customers by racial and ethnic slurs, the newspaper reported.

Kevin Reed, 53, told the Des Moines Register on Friday he was checking out at the gas station when he saw Franklin throwing potato chips, destroying merchandise and referring to people by racial and ethnic slurs.

On Sunday, West Des Moines police said Franklin would face a felony hate crime charge — assault in violation of individual rights — for the incident, on top of her previous charges of theft and public intoxication.


Source: Iowa driver accused of striking teen with vehicle now linked to previous similar incident, police say

So it seems the cause in this case is a deep racial hatred combined with public intoxication. I seem to recall a similar incident that occurred in New York a few days ago. That case also involved a deep racial hatred combined with public intoxication. In both cases the culprit was a woman. In both cases the culprit was drunk. In the other case the woman was black and the victims were Jewish. She attacked them on a subway train.

Thread: Has There Been A Rise In Anti-Semitism In NYC Recently


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24 Dec 2019, 8:45 am

I absolutely agree. Trump is not the main point.

These idiots are.



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24 Dec 2019, 8:55 am

Sometimes I ponder if more is in play than just a few members on the board who really go out of their way to "flame the board".

It calls to mind the Russian Disinformation War.

Russia’s attempt to exert influence over the 2016 election was far from an isolated incident tied to one campaign, but one part of a “broader, sophisticated, and ongoing information warfare campaign” designed to divide America by inflaming cultural, political, and social tensions. The influence operations began long before 2016 and remain active today, the report says.

The report says that although the IRA’s [Russian Internet Research Agency] purchase of online ads on platforms like Facebook received considerable attention from the press and the public, the ads really weren’t all that important. The number of ads Russian operatives bought and used to target American users paled in comparison to the tweets, YouTube videos, Reddit comments, and Facebook and Instagram posts created and shared by IRA operatives posing as normal users. The group made over 61,500 Facebook posts, 116,000 Instagram posts, and 10.4 million tweets, all aimed at sowing discord and inflaming tensions among Americans, says the report.

Source: Russia's Disinformation War Is Just Getting Started


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24 Dec 2019, 11:32 am

jimmy m wrote:
Sometimes I ponder if more is in play than just a few members on the board who really go out of their way to "flame the board".

It calls to mind the Russian Disinformation War.
...

It's related to the "Green bins and blue bins" phenomenon that I mentioned in the parents' discussion forum: https://wrongplanet.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=383414. When there are few independent thinkers, then disinformation and flaming, all work great. All democracies are thinking hard on how to crack this problem. It's not as hopeless a problem as you may think.


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Sometimes I ponder if more is in play than just a few members on the board who really go out of their way to "flame the board".  It calls to mind the Russian Disinformation War...
It's related to the "Green bins and blue bins" phenomenon that I mentioned in the parents' discussion forum: https://wrongplanet.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=383414.  When there are few independent thinkers, then disinformation and flaming, all work great.  All democracies are thinking hard on how to crack this problem.  It's not as hopeless a problem as you may think.
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24 Dec 2019, 12:02 pm

It appears that this same woman on the same day ran over a black male child in a local housing complex earlier in the day,according the an article by USA today.


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24 Dec 2019, 2:26 pm

EzraS wrote:
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Having an erection implies loving or lusting for a person or thing, and that certainly aint Trump when it comes to me.
Okay, different terminology - why jump to Trump's defense at every verbal dirty look directed at him?


Shoe thrown at yowling cats.


So you're saying that you're only irritated with the alleged barrage of criticism leveled at Trump, and not because you believe he isn't really a racist, a swindler, and a traitor?


Can you really not grasp how one thread after another on a daily basis about the same topic where the same things are said over and over again, over a course of years is tiring and annoying?

It would be just as tiring and annoying if 5 people made daily anti-biden, anti-sanders, anti-warren (whoever runs against trump) posts/threads on a daily basis.

It would be just as tiring and annoying if 5 people had made 867836356 pro-trump posts/threads on a daily basis over the course of years.

Spam is spam.


The same could be said about your constant defense of Trump, all the while denying his many egregious faults as a President, a businessman, and as a human being. Or those of some of his followers.


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