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06 Jan 2020, 6:30 pm

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Iran has signed the non proliferation treaty, Israel hasn't. They have no leg to stand on. Yes I hate Israel. Anyone who loves child murdering state sponsoring terrorists is the one with the problem.



John, the Palestinians have been free to relocate since their land was reclaimed by the Jews. Not only do they choose not to leave, but are not above using their children as human shields. So, I would argue that the Palestinians hate their own children, or love the land more. I'm not sure which.

When you go about screaming, you appear unhinged.


reclaimed?

okay, where do you suppose all those palestinians are supposed to
go? how is their claim to the land any weaker?


Because they got their asses handed to them. Please tell me that in all your studies (you seem to be an educated individual) you haven't lost the concept of Victory.


Stealing land via war is what the Nazis did in WWII hence it became illegal under international law afterwards.



Hate is more dangerous than anything John, hate is not good for your health and is never a solution. This particular attack is bringing back terrible memories and fears to me of terrible times. Please stop.


I don't hate you. I hate governments.


I know that. Hate will harden your heart and arteries. Try once in a while focussing on what you love, it'll do you the world of good. Hate perpetuates suffering, it cannot alleviate it. Disapprove but don't hate. Start a JohnPowell loves.....thread, there's an idea :D


Too self indulgent for me teach haha. Don't worry I'm quite a fun person away from politics :P


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06 Jan 2020, 6:32 pm

Persephone29 wrote:
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JohnPowell wrote:
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Iran has signed the non proliferation treaty, Israel hasn't. They have no leg to stand on. Yes I hate Israel. Anyone who loves child murdering state sponsoring terrorists is the one with the problem.



John, the Palestinians have been free to relocate since their land was reclaimed by the Jews. Not only do they choose not to leave, but are not above using their children as human shields. So, I would argue that the Palestinians hate their own children, or love the land more. I'm not sure which.

When you go about screaming, you appear unhinged.


Wow you've exposed yourself as a fascist. It was not 'reclaimed' it was stolen by force and continues to be stolen. Any evidence for any of your bulls**t?



The 'evidence' I have won't be acceptable to you, but you can track the prophesy throughout the Old Testament. You don't have to be a believer, a Christian, or anything really to track Israel (Jacob) through time. From the flight out of Egypt, to impossible battles won, to the promised land ( disobeying all the way ). From self governance to heathen ideas of a king, to more disobedience, to the diaspora, to constant tribulation and persecution, to the restoration of Israel. It's all there.

They have been re-established since 1948. You will not shake them from this land. And I love it when non-believers try and dispute it. I love science. I believe in creation and the big bang, Darwin's theory of natural selection. I just bought The Origin Of Species. Your problem and every other person's problem who does not believe is that you refuse to accept that we were created to evolve, to defeat, to take over. It doesn't need you to believe to happen though.


Your evidence? The Bible :lol: :lol:



Laugh all you like, John. Genesis 12 ~ "I will bless those who bless you and curse those who curse you."

What evidence do we have of 'blessings?' First, there is survival. Second, there is prosperity. How does prosperity come about, if not evolution and adaptation? I believe to be 'blessed' it to evolve. What do countries who hate Israel have in common? And by hate, I mean generational hate of Israel? They are known by either living in poverty and squalor or squashed by communism. Either way, they are relatively unintelligent, unevolved, or unhappy. Or some combination of the three.

Evolution is the blessing... Those who fail to evolve die. What are generational curses, but a lack of evolution? If you cannot or will not learn, you will be slowly edged out of existence. You are watching it happen in Palestine and it's going to keep happening. You're also watching the beginnings of it in Iran. You have watched it happen in Africa... China, Russia are simply contained by surface tension. Their people are miserable, worked to the bone.


You're basically saying you think the superior race won. Amazing the racism you can get away with on this site if you support the right tribe.


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06 Jan 2020, 6:33 pm

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Iran warns US of starting WWIII and have put an $80m bounty price on his head
https://www.news.com.au/world/middle-ea ... f86dfadba2

I'm sure Trump's Russian minders will tell the Iranians to lay off :lol:


Is it an official bounty, though?

It listened to the video clip and read the subtitles. The proposed bounty was made by a funeral director who asked the crowd if every Iranian would pay $1, totalling $80M, for trump’s head and they replied in agreement.

Hardly an actual bounty that Iran is going to pay..


I think the Shia faithful in Iran would willingly reward anyone for the deed. I am still not convinced the Russians would allow Iran to launch a full scale war given Putin has so much influence nowadays in American politics.


Enough of the fantasies. Russia are allies with Iran and have been doing military drills with them. Your childish conspiracy theories are long dead.


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06 Jan 2020, 7:30 pm

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Iran warns US of starting WWIII and have put an $80m bounty price on his head
https://www.news.com.au/world/middle-ea ... f86dfadba2

I'm sure Trump's Russian minders will tell the Iranians to lay off :lol:


Is it an official bounty, though?

It listened to the video clip and read the subtitles. The proposed bounty was made by a funeral director who asked the crowd if every Iranian would pay $1, totalling $80M, for trump’s head and they replied in agreement.

Hardly an actual bounty that Iran is going to pay..


I think the Shia faithful in Iran would willingly reward anyone for the deed. I am still not convinced the Russians would allow Iran to launch a full scale war given Putin has so much influence nowadays in American politics.




Iran is ruled by insane zealous clerics; and anyone who thinks their nuclear ambitions is limited to electricity and industry is frankly either fool or ignorant (like the Democratic Americans, it seems) of their religious doctrine. They are not rational people like us normal people.

Khomeinist Shi’ism is bizarre Doomday cult within Twelver Shi’ism, and the most radical form of it fixated on a prophecy. Side note: the Najaf’s majority of Shia scholars (the original homeland of Shi’ism reject to this day the fairly new “Khomeini doctrine” and the whole Supreme leader concept; I would say in few years or a decade the Twelver Shi’ism will be split into two sects; it’s already happening in Iraq in a bloody way; and to a lesser extent in Lebanon.

Back to this Khomeini’s cult, their main motivation behind EVERY action they do in politics (the supreme leader and their clerics) is a “preparation” for the Imam Mahdi’s return; who was the 12th Imam disappeared as a boy and the Twelevers believe in his return, alongside with Jesus, to cast the final judgement upon humanity in the world’s last days; who would “raise the sword” and destroy the enemies of Islam and the “Antichrist” (which many of them interpret that he, the antichrist, may be an enemy state, not a person).

They believe that when the pre-judgement time comes and after the Al Mahdi’s victory: “Jesus will enter the temple, breaks the cross, kills the pig and impose the Jizya” whatever that means.
Let me point that “raising the sword” is a metaphorical Arabic term for “waging war with weapons” ... so the “sword” can be a sword, a gun... or something much bigger and mass destructive?

So yeah, let them have nuclear capabilities; you naives. lol



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06 Jan 2020, 8:49 pm

JohnPowell wrote:
Persephone29 wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
Persephone29 wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
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Iran has signed the non proliferation treaty, Israel hasn't. They have no leg to stand on. Yes I hate Israel. Anyone who loves child murdering state sponsoring terrorists is the one with the problem.



John, the Palestinians have been free to relocate since their land was reclaimed by the Jews. Not only do they choose not to leave, but are not above using their children as human shields. So, I would argue that the Palestinians hate their own children, or love the land more. I'm not sure which.

When you go about screaming, you appear unhinged.


Wow you've exposed yourself as a fascist. It was not 'reclaimed' it was stolen by force and continues to be stolen. Any evidence for any of your bulls**t?



The 'evidence' I have won't be acceptable to you, but you can track the prophesy throughout the Old Testament. You don't have to be a believer, a Christian, or anything really to track Israel (Jacob) through time. From the flight out of Egypt, to impossible battles won, to the promised land ( disobeying all the way ). From self governance to heathen ideas of a king, to more disobedience, to the diaspora, to constant tribulation and persecution, to the restoration of Israel. It's all there.

They have been re-established since 1948. You will not shake them from this land. And I love it when non-believers try and dispute it. I love science. I believe in creation and the big bang, Darwin's theory of natural selection. I just bought The Origin Of Species. Your problem and every other person's problem who does not believe is that you refuse to accept that we were created to evolve, to defeat, to take over. It doesn't need you to believe to happen though.


Your evidence? The Bible :lol: :lol:



Laugh all you like, John. Genesis 12 ~ "I will bless those who bless you and curse those who curse you."

What evidence do we have of 'blessings?' First, there is survival. Second, there is prosperity. How does prosperity come about, if not evolution and adaptation? I believe to be 'blessed' it to evolve. What do countries who hate Israel have in common? And by hate, I mean generational hate of Israel? They are known by either living in poverty and squalor or squashed by communism. Either way, they are relatively unintelligent, unevolved, or unhappy. Or some combination of the three.

Evolution is the blessing... Those who fail to evolve die. What are generational curses, but a lack of evolution? If you cannot or will not learn, you will be slowly edged out of existence. You are watching it happen in Palestine and it's going to keep happening. You're also watching the beginnings of it in Iran. You have watched it happen in Africa... China, Russia are simply contained by surface tension. Their people are miserable, worked to the bone.


You're basically saying you think the superior race won. Amazing the racism you can get away with on this site if you support the right tribe.



Lots of black and brown people are thriving, John. They are not glued to a parcel of land. If you are glued to a region, religion and to a philosophy that believes in cruelty to females, you just might be a dunce. Dunces don't tend to do well in the long run...


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06 Jan 2020, 11:29 pm

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Back to this Khomeini’s cult, their main motivation behind EVERY action they do in politics (the supreme leader and their clerics) is a “preparation” for the Imam Mahdi’s return; who was the 12th Imam disappeared as a boy and the Twelevers believe in his return, alongside with Jesus, to cast the final judgement upon humanity in the world’s last days; who would “raise the sword” and destroy the enemies of Islam and the “Antichrist” (which many of them interpret that he, the antichrist, may be an enemy state, not a person).


I have known many Iranian muslims and they claim the majority of younger Iranians don't subscribe to this type of fundamentalism. Would it be possible for an "Arab Spring" to occur in the future?

On a side note: the Iranian Bahais seem to think the Mahdi has already come in the form of their own messiah?



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still can't believe they killed sean connery


I can:


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07 Jan 2020, 12:25 am

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I think the Shia faithful in Iran would willingly reward anyone for the deed. I am still not convinced the Russians would allow Iran to launch a full scale war given Putin has so much influence nowadays in American politics.
"Пусть они все убьют друг друга, тогда мы пойдем и соберем куски."

("Pust' oni vse ub'yut drug druga, togda my poydem i soberem kuski." -- "Let them all kill each other, then we go in and pick up pieces.")


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I can read these letters, but not the language, I can understand only few words. :P



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07 Jan 2020, 2:53 am

Saying Iran has been building a nuke is sheer ignorance and based on Israeli propaganda. Psychotic Netanyahu has been saying they are six months away for the last 25 years. He took a cartoon drawing to the UN of a bomb. Even the CIA said they aren't building one. They'd need to be around 95% uranium enrichment to build a bomb but they are around 5%. They are entitled to enrich it for energy as they have signed the non profilferation treaty. Where as Israel hasn't and has hundreds of nukes with the help of stealing from the US.


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07 Jan 2020, 7:49 am

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Saying Iran has been building a nuke is sheer ignorance and based on Israeli propaganda. Psychotic Netanyahu has been saying they are six months away for the last 25 years. He took a cartoon drawing to the UN of a bomb. Even the CIA said they aren't building one. They'd need to be around 95% uranium enrichment to build a bomb but they are around 5%. They are entitled to enrich it for energy as they have signed the non profilferation treaty. Where as Israel hasn't and has hundreds of nukes with the help of stealing from the US.



The CIA and FBI are a joke, anymore. Israel hasn't been threatening to nuke Iran or anyone else, for that matter. All they have ever said was that they would defend themselves if attacked. Iran has been posturing, spoiling for a fight with anything that moved for as long as I've been alive. Iran wants to bring on the end of days, only they are too stupid to understand that it's not their job.

You seem to think that because some countries have Nuclear capabilities, all should. But when you are f'ing crazy, the world balks at the notion. THEY need to set up windmills, or solar panels, or whatever alternate energy sources the climate accord is so hot on. It would be the first action Iran has taken with the world's best interest and not their own.


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07 Jan 2020, 10:25 am

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I can read these letters, but not the language, I can understand only few words. :P


@TFoB -off topic, Persian language is kinda cool. I can read it too but some letters are different; p, o, ch, g, eh, v, S/Ss/s & s, Za (tha). It is kinda difficult at times. The arabic word aina, still spelled the same in Persian is een (أين). Some of those words the Kurds can understand too.


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Saying Iran has been building a nuke is sheer ignorance and based on Israeli propaganda. Psychotic Netanyahu has been saying they are six months away for the last 25 years. He took a cartoon drawing to the UN of a bomb. Even the CIA said they aren't building one. They'd need to be around 95% uranium enrichment to build a bomb but they are around 5%. They are entitled to enrich it for energy as they have signed the non profilferation treaty. Where as Israel hasn't and has hundreds of nukes with the help of stealing from the US.
I think you need a new hat...

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07 Jan 2020, 1:52 pm

How can you be sure that the Supreme Leader is saying the truth regarding the 5%? How can you be so sure that there’s no second facility hidden somewhere. Iran is a big place. Look up for the term “Al Taqqiya”, it is the divine right that the Khomeini cult believes for lying for the sake of a religious cause or the benefit of the nation.
Why else Iran, a country very rich in oil and gaz is so desperate for having nuclear power while it has tons of much more pressing economical matters to address first; if it’s not for future military uses? Because the apocalyptic CULT doesn’t give a s**t about their people; these guys act everything on the basis of their awaiting doom prophecy that I have explained in detail in the previous page.

Some westerners make the mistake that these people think politics reasonably; separating religion and state matters like in their own countries: Wrong, for them, politics is a way to achieve religious goals; religion is their priority.

I agree with Persephone on this: Insane people must not have any potential nuclear capabilities; Iran in its current form must not be allowed to have 1% of nuclear technology.



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