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This includes insinuation, ridicule and personal insults, regardless of whether direct or indirect. Attacking an opinion, belief or philosophy is acceptable, but attacking the person making the comments is not."
Please stop making fun of people who are religious (Christian, Jewish, Muslim), people in traditional communities, people who like dresses, people who wear hijabs, people who are sex workers, and other people who have different lifestyles than your own.
Over and out.
I can say that I disapprove of religions or philosophies that require females to wear coverups like hijabs or burqas because such things can be damaging to women. I can’t say that the people wearing them are bad or stupid (which they obviously aren’t, at least no more than the general population).
I have nothing against people who wear dresses. I own some.
Prostitution is illegal where I live and is going to be for awhile.
Why are you keeping track of what I say?
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“The darkness shall be the light, and the stillness the dancing.”
— from Four Quartets by T.S. Eliot
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This includes insinuation, ridicule and personal insults, regardless of whether direct or indirect. Attacking an opinion, belief or philosophy is acceptable, but attacking the person making the comments is not."
Please stop making fun of people who are religious (Christian, Jewish, Muslim or other), people in traditional communities, people who like dresses, people who wear hijabs, people who are sex workers, and other people who have different lifestyles than your own.
Over and out.
I haven't seen her put an individuals name on who the comment was meant for,vso she must be attacking the ideology and not an individual. So it would appear to be in bounds.
This includes insinuation, ridicule and personal insults, regardless of whether direct or indirect. Attacking an opinion, belief or philosophy is acceptable, but attacking the person making the comments is not."
Please stop making fun of people who are religious (Christian, Jewish, Muslim or other), people in traditional communities, people who like dresses, people who wear hijabs, people who are sex workers, and other people who have different lifestyles than your own.
Over and out.
I haven't seen her put an individuals name on who the comment was meant for,vso she must be attacking the ideology and not an individual. So it would appear to be in bounds.
I think there’s some level of misunderstanding going on here.
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“The darkness shall be the light, and the stillness the dancing.”
— from Four Quartets by T.S. Eliot
This includes insinuation, ridicule and personal insults, regardless of whether direct or indirect. Attacking an opinion, belief or philosophy is acceptable, but attacking the person making the comments is not."
Please stop making fun of people who are religious (Christian, Jewish, Muslim or other), people in traditional communities, people who like dresses, people who wear hijabs, people who are sex workers, and other people who have different lifestyles than your own.
Over and out.
I haven't seen her put an individuals name on who the comment was meant for,vso she must be attacking the ideology and not an individual. So it would appear to be in bounds.
I think there’s some level of misunderstanding going on here.
It seems to me that she is confusing the definition of attacking an individual versus attacking an ideology. The way I am understanding the situation is by saying "All JW's..." She thinks you are attacking an individual instead of an idea.
Bravo,
From The Walrus, 08 August 2016
"In recent months, it has become increasingly clear that people are not reading these rules.
As a result, any thread made after this post that breaks these rules in the opening post will be locked, and the user will be formally warned. If a thread contains significant ongoing constructive discussion then the rule break may be edited out of the OP instead.
In particular, please pay attention to the rule banning attacks on groups of people. For avoidance of doubt, here are some contemporary examples which break that rule:
"Trump supporters are idiots"
"Only stupid people would vote for Clinton"
"The left will get upset at this"
"Conservatives get butthurt too easily"
"Feminists are evil" " (end quote)
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Names aren't needed. Groups of people are not allowed to be attacked.
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Beatles
This includes insinuation, ridicule and personal insults, regardless of whether direct or indirect. Attacking an opinion, belief or philosophy is acceptable, but attacking the person making the comments is not."
Please stop making fun of people who are religious (Christian, Jewish, Muslim or other), people in traditional communities, people who like dresses, people who wear hijabs, people who are sex workers, and other people who have different lifestyles than your own.
Over and out.
I haven't seen her put an individuals name on who the comment was meant for,vso she must be attacking the ideology and not an individual. So it would appear to be in bounds.
I think there’s some level of misunderstanding going on here.
You're walking a very fine line with demeaning and sarcastic remarks directed towards those who hold certain religious beliefs, without actually targeting individuals on this forum.
You're relying on a technicality to excuse your insensitivity. Maybe you should listen to what Isabella is trying to tell you. She had a valid point.
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If you respect other people's beliefs then why are you trying to tell twighlightprincess how to parent her child's exposure to science and rationalism? It may not occur to you but all children are exposed to science and rationalism in school. There is a reason why education requires rationale thought as a prerequisite.
From The Walrus, 08 August 2016
"In recent months, it has become increasingly clear that people are not reading these rules.
As a result, any thread made after this post that breaks these rules in the opening post will be locked, and the user will be formally warned. If a thread contains significant ongoing constructive discussion then the rule break may be edited out of the OP instead.
In particular, please pay attention to the rule banning attacks on groups of people. For avoidance of doubt, here are some contemporary examples which break that rule:
"Trump supporters are idiots"
"Only stupid people would vote for Clinton"
"The left will get upset at this"
"Conservatives get butthurt too easily"
"Feminists are evil" " (end quote)
viewtopic.php?t=204613#p7249308
Names aren't needed. Groups of people are not allowed to be attacked.
So, according to what you are interpreting the rules to say, are you saying I would be in violation of the rule if I said that people who lack full respect for their own beliefs don't deserve respect from others about their beliefs?
I'll keep the thread on topic - People do not have the right to discriminate against how a person is born. Being gay is not a "lifestyle" or "choice" you are born that way. Ergo if a gay person wants to get married they have just as much right as heterosexual couple to have this right to happiness as per the American constitution.
The_Walrus says that stating: “Conservative views on abortion has harmed many women” is an acceptable thing to say. I couldn’t say that “conservatives are stupid.”
I feel like I’m being singled out and attacked on this thread. If people have a problem with my posts, report them instead of repeatedly attacking me publicly.
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“The darkness shall be the light, and the stillness the dancing.”
— from Four Quartets by T.S. Eliot
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If you don't like religion, don't practise it .... instead of repeatedly mocking it, or the people who do.
It's against the rules.
Are you threatening people with getting reported for speaking about their children and their own lives?? are you nuts? nobody is mocking your religion, if your belief is strong then why should it be threatened by what other people say about their own lives?
You are sounding like the intolerant one here...
From The Walrus, 08 August 2016
"In recent months, it has become increasingly clear that people are not reading these rules.
As a result, any thread made after this post that breaks these rules in the opening post will be locked, and the user will be formally warned. If a thread contains significant ongoing constructive discussion then the rule break may be edited out of the OP instead.
In particular, please pay attention to the rule banning attacks on groups of people. For avoidance of doubt, here are some contemporary examples which break that rule:
"Trump supporters are idiots"
"Only stupid people would vote for Clinton"
"The left will get upset at this"
"Conservatives get butthurt too easily"
"Feminists are evil" " (end quote)
viewtopic.php?t=204613#p7249308
Names aren't needed. Groups of people are not allowed to be attacked.
So, according to what you are interpreting the rules to say, are you saying I would be in violation of the rule if I said that people who lack full respect for their own beliefs don't deserve respect from others about their beliefs?
No. For one, I'm not "interpreting the rules", I'm quoting them. No one has to respect anyone's beliefs. They do need to refrain from mocking or teasing groups of people, saying they "wear tinfoil hats and worship sky gods", joking that religious people may as well pray to their breakfast cereal, saying sex workers shouldn't have rights because it's illegal (but if gay marriage were illegal, that would be OK?), and commenting that religious folk should wipe their arse with the Bible because they aren't "sane" or "rational" and they are among "the worst people" she knows.
I do notice these comments, because I'm shocked that some people can be so rude and insensitive to others.
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I never give you my number, I only give you my situation.
Beatles
From The Walrus, 08 August 2016
"In recent months, it has become increasingly clear that people are not reading these rules.
As a result, any thread made after this post that breaks these rules in the opening post will be locked, and the user will be formally warned. If a thread contains significant ongoing constructive discussion then the rule break may be edited out of the OP instead.
In particular, please pay attention to the rule banning attacks on groups of people. For avoidance of doubt, here are some contemporary examples which break that rule:
"Trump supporters are idiots"
"Only stupid people would vote for Clinton"
"The left will get upset at this"
"Conservatives get butthurt too easily"
"Feminists are evil" " (end quote)
viewtopic.php?t=204613#p7249308
Names aren't needed. Groups of people are not allowed to be attacked.
So, according to what you are interpreting the rules to say, are you saying I would be in violation of the rule if I said that people who lack full respect for their own beliefs don't deserve respect from others about their beliefs?
No. For one, I'm not "interpreting the rules", I'm quoting them. No one has to respect anyone's beliefs. They do need to refrain from mocking or teasing groups of people, saying they "wear tinfoil hats and worship sky gods", joking that religious people may as well pray to their breakfast cereal, saying sex workers shouldn't have rights because it's illegal (but if gay marriage were illegal, that would be OK?), and commenting that religious folk should wipe their arse with the Bible because they aren't "sane" or "rational" and they are among "the worst people" she knows.
I do notice these comments, because I'm shocked that some people can be so rude and insensitive to others.
You are taking what I said WAY further than I meant it. SOME of the very religious people I have personally known have been the worst. That doesn’t encompass all religious people, just some of the very strict people I’ve known - the sticklers for rules, judgment, and such.
Sex workers should have human rights like everyone else but I’m against legalization.
“Tin foil hats” was not referring to religion, nor was “psychics.”
“Breakfast cereal” was about arbitrary rules, NOT prayer.
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“The darkness shall be the light, and the stillness the dancing.”
— from Four Quartets by T.S. Eliot
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From The Walrus, 08 August 2016
"In recent months, it has become increasingly clear that people are not reading these rules.
As a result, any thread made after this post that breaks these rules in the opening post will be locked, and the user will be formally warned. If a thread contains significant ongoing constructive discussion then the rule break may be edited out of the OP instead.
In particular, please pay attention to the rule banning attacks on groups of people. For avoidance of doubt, here are some contemporary examples which break that rule:
"Trump supporters are idiots"
"Only stupid people would vote for Clinton"
"The left will get upset at this"
"Conservatives get butthurt too easily"
"Feminists are evil" " (end quote)
viewtopic.php?t=204613#p7249308
Names aren't needed. Groups of people are not allowed to be attacked.
So, according to what you are interpreting the rules to say, are you saying I would be in violation of the rule if I said that people who lack full respect for their own beliefs don't deserve respect from others about their beliefs?
No. For one, I'm not "interpreting the rules", I'm quoting them. No one has to respect anyone's beliefs. They do need to refrain from mocking or teasing groups of people, saying they "wear tinfoil hats and worship sky gods", joking that religious people may as well pray to their breakfast cereal, saying sex workers shouldn't have rights because it's illegal (but if gay marriage were illegal, that would be OK?), and commenting that religious folk should wipe their arse with the Bible because they aren't "sane" or "rational" and they are among "the worst people" she knows.
I do notice these comments, because I'm shocked that some people can be so rude and insensitive to others.
As far as saying that people are not rational who follow the Bible, this can be a fact in some cases. I have spoken to people offline who were extremely religious and one thing I have heard them argue that use of logic or rational thinking is a bad thing. So, if logic or rational is a bad thing, then the claim of being irrational must be a fact in that particular case.
a. There are rational and irrational people who follow the Bible.
b. There are rational and irrational people who don't follow the Bible.
: : Rationality and irrationality are irrelevant to whether or not people follow the Bible.
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b. There are rational and irrational people who don't follow the Bible.
: : Rationality and irrationality are irrelevant to whether or not people follow the Bible.
Sticking to the thread topic - irrational people who discriminate on the basis of religion against sexual orientation are acting against the constitution of the country where religion and law are kept seperate.
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