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21 Feb 2020, 1:44 am

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Cyberdad has basically claimed the moderators are on his side politically and named one of them specifically.

He says the only warning he has ever gotten was for bullying me because I whined and cried about it so much or words to that effect.


I never said moderators on my side "politically"? nor did any of the moderators accuse me of bullying.

They are aware that you are easily triggered which is the warning I got to treat you with kid gloves when you do your usual routine



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21 Feb 2020, 1:49 am

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The right, on the other hand, don't seem (in general) to consider race as a factor, instead trying to treat everyone in the same way, which can lead to circumstances where some groups feel (rightly or wrongly) that they are being discriminated against.

Objectively, this gives the appearance of the left being racist (while fighting against racism) whilst the right are against racism (whilst giving the unintended appearance of being racist)


This of course assumes people on the right wing of politics fit your model
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... ump-racism

Unfortunately the reality doesn't quite fit your view right wingers "don't consider race"


Not sure here: Could you please clarify whether you missed (intentionally or otherwise) the "in general" qualifier made as part of the statement, or whether you really do assume anyone who is right-wing is racist?



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21 Feb 2020, 1:56 am

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The right, on the other hand, don't seem (in general) to consider race as a factor, instead trying to treat everyone in the same way, which can lead to circumstances where some groups feel (rightly or wrongly) that they are being discriminated against.

Objectively, this gives the appearance of the left being racist (while fighting against racism) whilst the right are against racism (whilst giving the unintended appearance of being racist)


This of course assumes people on the right wing of politics fit your model
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... ump-racism

Unfortunately the reality doesn't quite fit your view right wingers "don't consider race"


Not sure here: Could you please clarify whether you missed (intentionally or otherwise) the "in general" qualifier made as part of the statement, or whether you really do assume anyone who is right-wing is racist?


I'm not saying all people on the right wing are racist but the hard data support that right wingers are more likely to consider race/identity politics than the left.



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21 Feb 2020, 2:31 am

cyberdad wrote:
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Cyberdad has basically claimed the moderators are on his side politically and named one of them specifically.

He says the only warning he has ever gotten was for bullying me because I whined and cried about it so much or words to that effect.


I never said moderators on my side "politically"? nor did any of the moderators accuse me of bullying.

They are aware that you are easily triggered which is the warning I got to treat you with kid gloves when you do your usual routine


Kraichgauer has never "triggered" me. Has not even come close. That is because you are a bully and he is not. You were told as an NT in his 50's to lay off a severely autistic kid. You actually had to be told that. And then you claim that was supposed to be my fault. Again Kraichgauer has never come anywhere close to that. Your behavior is the problem. But of course you can not or will not owe up to that. You are too much into using disabled people to play wack-a-mole with I suppose.



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21 Feb 2020, 2:40 am

We're not saying all right wing are nazis. We are just saying all right wing are potential probable nazis. Meaning when you slice though the thinly veiled BS, we are calling them nazis. Cause it scores points for our side. And we need all the points we can get. Cause we keep shooting ourselves in the foot with the duplicitous methods we use to score points for our side.



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21 Feb 2020, 4:45 am

Brictoria wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Brictoria wrote:
The right, on the other hand, don't seem (in general) to consider race as a factor, instead trying to treat everyone in the same way, which can lead to circumstances where some groups feel (rightly or wrongly) that they are being discriminated against.

Objectively, this gives the appearance of the left being racist (while fighting against racism) whilst the right are against racism (whilst giving the unintended appearance of being racist)


This of course assumes people on the right wing of politics fit your model
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... ump-racism

Unfortunately the reality doesn't quite fit your view right wingers "don't consider race"


Not sure here: Could you please clarify whether you missed (intentionally or otherwise) the "in general" qualifier made as part of the statement, or whether you really do assume anyone who is right-wing is racist?


The lack of qualifiers is "generally" endemic in most of the nooks and crannies of the internet.
I find it very distracting and it creates uncertainty due to some people actually having a binary view of life.
Questions for clarification often/usually go unanswered, in my experience.



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21 Feb 2020, 5:32 am

Shabrem wrote:
Brictoria wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Brictoria wrote:
The right, on the other hand, don't seem (in general) to consider race as a factor, instead trying to treat everyone in the same way, which can lead to circumstances where some groups feel (rightly or wrongly) that they are being discriminated against.

Objectively, this gives the appearance of the left being racist (while fighting against racism) whilst the right are against racism (whilst giving the unintended appearance of being racist)


This of course assumes people on the right wing of politics fit your model
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... ump-racism

Unfortunately the reality doesn't quite fit your view right wingers "don't consider race"


Not sure here: Could you please clarify whether you missed (intentionally or otherwise) the "in general" qualifier made as part of the statement, or whether you really do assume anyone who is right-wing is racist?


The lack of qualifiers is "generally" endemic in most of the nooks and crannies of the internet.
I find it very distracting and it creates uncertainty due to some people actually having a binary view of life.
Questions for clarification often/usually go unanswered, in my experience.


I actually agree its better not to use categories or define things in binary but sometimes you have to



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21 Feb 2020, 5:40 am

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Your behavior is the problem. But of course you can not or will not owe up to that. You are too much into using disabled people to play wack-a-mole with I suppose.


Complete opposite of the truth, I don't believe in some type of intellectual apartheid which seems to be what you seem to aim for.

I don't venture in 98% of the forum threads on WP as most of this is safe spaces for people with autism. The exceptions are the parent thread and news thread.

It would seem you are the intolerant one not me



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21 Feb 2020, 6:52 am

Yeah and you know what I am intolerant of. You simply just cannot stop can you? Sad. Carry on. Keep whacking away. Hardly anyone is left anyways.



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21 Feb 2020, 6:52 pm

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I'd LOVE to say something here but I probably shouldn't...

No, no, please! I don't hang back in terror, so why should you?

I thought you were boycotting me since I’m a “bully and a troll”, which is the reason I’m holding back. You’ve proven time and again that you can’t bear up to what I dish out. I was going to post some samples of your past handiwork for your new sparring partners to learn from but I think experience will be the best teacher for them.

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I'd LOVE to say something here but I probably shouldn't...


Now now...don't be scared snookums

How do you like my new avatar? You know who that is, don’t you? :P

Not to worry, either of you. I have neither the time nor the inclination to spend much time on WP these days except to peruse now and then and add the occasional little comment so y’all will know I haven’t totally forgotten you. Life in the raptor’s nest has become increasingly interesting these past few years…


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21 Feb 2020, 8:15 pm

What is this life thingy you speaketh?



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21 Feb 2020, 9:08 pm

EzraS wrote:
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Is that the case? Or is it just a matter of conservatives making themselves out to be victims? I had heard plenty of criticism of Obama, and never once did I believe most of it was racist.


The world does not revolve around you needless to say. It is quite easy to see what was said by the left during the Obama administration. The left machine plays up racism as a political tool/weapon. That is just a simple fact.


It's true that the right pretends there is no racial problem and argues there is no longer any need for legal protections for minorities, all the while coddling racists for the sake of votes. When they do concede there is racism, they claim it's whites who are the ones being discriminated against.


What source do you get that from, the right itself or CNN and the like?


Yes. They have presented the likes of Mike Hucksterbee calling for every person have an ID in order to vote, which is just a means of voter suppression when you realize the licensing departments in red states close such offices in poor and minority neighborhoods. The other Baptist-minister-turned-crackpot-governor of Wisconsin, did very much the same thing, but this time even forbade state employees from telling people voter ID's could be gotten free for those with low income. A dingbat woman something or other in Louisiana (?) bragged about how voting was made more difficult for students attending an African American colleges, while at the same time no such measures were taken at a predominately white colleges. In North Dakota, Native Americans had recently been denied the right to vote through some loophole concerning the lack of "proper addresses" on the reservation. In that case, the Native Americans beat it in court. And guess what? They are all GOP.
None of that could have been possible without the take over of the Republican party by the white, conservative Democrats who flocked to them as the Democrats as a national party became increasingly pro-civil rights.


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21 Feb 2020, 9:20 pm

Raptor wrote:
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I'd LOVE to say something here but I probably shouldn't...

No, no, please! I don't hang back in terror, so why should you?

I thought you were boycotting me since I’m a “bully and a troll”, which is the reason I’m holding back. You’ve proven time and again that you can’t bear up to what I dish out. I was going to post some samples of your past handiwork for your new sparring partners to learn from but I think experience will be the best teacher for them.

cyberdad wrote:
Raptor wrote:
I'd LOVE to say something here but I probably shouldn't...


Now now...don't be scared snookums

How do you like my new avatar? You know who that is, don’t you? :P

Not to worry, either of you. I have neither the time nor the inclination to spend much time on WP these days except to peruse now and then and add the occasional little comment so y’all will know I haven’t totally forgotten you. Life in the raptor’s nest has become increasingly interesting these past few years…


I ended my so called boycott a long time ago because somebody has to refute the BS machine.
Yes, I recognize that smarmy kid. To be honest with you, I would have been very sympathetic to him and his private school friends, as they had been first set upon by the lunatic African Israelites, or wtf they call themselves. But they lost me and most others when they prep school kids turned on the Native American man who had come over, chanting and beating a drum, to support them. That's how that little turd became infamous for that smirk.
So, what's keeping you busy? And I mean that out of genuine curiosity and not to be offensive. If your love life has gone beyond that picture of the SS chick, or if your literary ambitions have been realized (as have mine), then I will be truly happy for you. And yes, I mean that.


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21 Feb 2020, 9:21 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
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Is that the case? Or is it just a matter of conservatives making themselves out to be victims? I had heard plenty of criticism of Obama, and never once did I believe most of it was racist.


The world does not revolve around you needless to say. It is quite easy to see what was said by the left during the Obama administration. The left machine plays up racism as a political tool/weapon. That is just a simple fact.


It's true that the right pretends there is no racial problem and argues there is no longer any need for legal protections for minorities, all the while coddling racists for the sake of votes. When they do concede there is racism, they claim it's whites who are the ones being discriminated against.


What source do you get that from, the right itself or CNN and the like?


Yes. They have presented the likes of Mike Hucksterbee calling for every person have an ID in order to vote, which is just a means of voter suppression when you realize the licensing departments in red states close such offices in poor and minority neighborhoods. The other Baptist-minister-turned-crackpot-governor of Wisconsin, did very much the same thing, but this time even forbade state employees from telling people voter ID's could be gotten free for those with low income. A dingbat woman something or other in Louisiana (?) bragged about how voting was made more difficult for students attending an African American colleges, while at the same time no such measures were taken at a predominately white colleges. In North Dakota, Native Americans had recently been denied the right to vote through some loophole concerning the lack of "proper addresses" on the reservation. In that case, the Native Americans beat it in court. And guess what? They are all GOP.
None of that could have been possible without the take over of the Republican party by the white, conservative Democrats who flocked to them as the Democrats as a national party became increasingly pro-civil rights.


That spiel looks like a boat load of conditioning. Most of it appears to be them speaking through you.



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21 Feb 2020, 9:26 pm

EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Is that the case? Or is it just a matter of conservatives making themselves out to be victims? I had heard plenty of criticism of Obama, and never once did I believe most of it was racist.


The world does not revolve around you needless to say. It is quite easy to see what was said by the left during the Obama administration. The left machine plays up racism as a political tool/weapon. That is just a simple fact.


It's true that the right pretends there is no racial problem and argues there is no longer any need for legal protections for minorities, all the while coddling racists for the sake of votes. When they do concede there is racism, they claim it's whites who are the ones being discriminated against.


What source do you get that from, the right itself or CNN and the like?


Yes. They have presented the likes of Mike Hucksterbee calling for every person have an ID in order to vote, which is just a means of voter suppression when you realize the licensing departments in red states close such offices in poor and minority neighborhoods. The other Baptist-minister-turned-crackpot-governor of Wisconsin, did very much the same thing, but this time even forbade state employees from telling people voter ID's could be gotten free for those with low income. A dingbat woman something or other in Louisiana (?) bragged about how voting was made more difficult for students attending an African American colleges, while at the same time no such measures were taken at a predominately white colleges. In North Dakota, Native Americans had recently been denied the right to vote through some loophole concerning the lack of "proper addresses" on the reservation. In that case, the Native Americans beat it in court. And guess what? They are all GOP.
None of that could have been possible without the take over of the Republican party by the white, conservative Democrats who flocked to them as the Democrats as a national party became increasingly pro-civil rights.


That spiel looks like a boat load of conditioning. Most of it appears to be them speaking through you.


I have never claimed to have the powers to channel insane bigots, I swear! :lol:
Seriously though, all that is real. If you'd watch news like CNN or MSNBC, you'd see it first hand.


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21 Feb 2020, 9:36 pm

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I have never claimed to have the powers to channel insane bigots, I swear! :lol:
Seriously though, all that is real. If you'd watch news like CNN or MSNBC, you'd see it first hand.


I am saying you are channeling your ultra biased sensationalist propaganda sources. As in not having a mind of your own and unable to judge and speak for yourself, just being a CNN parrot. And I have seen CNN and MSNBC first hand. That is how I know they are rubbish. Yes just as Fox is rubbish.