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Dillogic
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11 Feb 2022, 5:18 pm

The purpose of SARS-CoV-2. You make stuff for a reason, and that reason can help determine the outlook once in the wild, though functionally, whatever it was, it's now what it is. It's been in humans too long now.

They would have been doing this in BSL-3 conditions, meaning N-95s, coveralls and face shields/safety glasses, and they did animal transmission and virulence studies in those, as Sarbecoviruses aren't select agents that need BSL-4 conditions. SARS-CoV-2 can easily defeat that level of protection, and has numerous times in hospitals and a few times in labs. That'll be how it most likely got out, a worker inhaled virions from mice or something similar and walked out with a mild infection. A vaccine trial failure is possible where it deattenuated in participants, which is what happened in 1977.

Until I can get an answer to a question (I've looked everywhere and asked virologists, and nothing), it being a genetically engineered vaccine candidate is my personal choice for what it was.



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11 Feb 2022, 6:27 pm

QFT wrote:
Dillogic wrote:
Of course it came from a lab, and some random autistic dude can prove that one to you. They'll get away with it, much like they did back in 1977 (I'm sure there's more), as people would rather argue about my side versus your side stuff that the talking heads behind it all whisper into the minds of either side to divert their eyes.

The question I have is what was its purpose. Spillover potential of a single virus or quasispecies on what's needed to make that jump or vaccine research? I guess that's fundamentally a moot question. I can't find an answer to a question I have that might make me favor either one.


Well, the purpose was to keep the virus safe inside the lab, but somoene accidentally messed up and let it out.

There are plenty of labs that study viruses. But it is all safe because a person can't just enter and leave lab just like that, they need to take 2 hour shower and stuff like that. So someone in that particular lab in China was too much in a hurry to do all the self-cleaning they had to and thats what got us to where we are.

The purpose of that person? Maybe they were tired and wanted to get home and jump to bed ASAP and didn't have patience to do all those tedious self cleaning things?


It wouldn't be the first time someone "messed up" with biosecurity in a lab, which makes the efforts to prevent investigations to confirm if that is what occurred here so unusual - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_laboratory_biosecurity_incidents