PETA just plain suck...

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http://www.activistcash.com/organization_blackeye.cfm/oid/21

Is this a viable enough source for you? I've been keeping up on the topic on this. Between arson on behalf of the ALF- which is supported by PETA, unless the organization just so happened to post bail for the arsonist in Michigan State and he happened to have ALF connections- and Ingrid Newkirk's quote in US and World News Report in 2008 about "[PETA's] nonviolent tactics not being as effective... Someone makes a threat and it works," are you really going to tell me that PETA is an innocent organization that is doing their part to save animals?

Is that not convincing enough to show their links? How about this:
http://dana.ucc.nau.edu/adb89/alfelf.html

This has the definitive links and the various crimes of the ALF and ELF. I'm sure there are other offices that seek them for their acts beyond the ones I mentioned already, but that is more speculation.

And there's this lovely gem from back in 2005:
http://articles.sfgate.com/2005-06-23/o ... ad-animals

This article came in lieu of the corpses of several animals found in dumpsters. Take a wild guess to whom the van was registered, "sweetie."

I am a hunter and on top of that, a third gen one. The difference is that I don't go for trophies with what I shoot. My family and I at least practice the idea of hunting for food instead of just for the hell of it. I also support that you are entitled to your own opinion, but almost 10 years out of High School, and I am more appalled at their actions than back then.

yes PETA suck, they respect animals more then they do people and they hate the disabled, always comparing disabled people to chimps in their arguments.

You didn't post a single link to a source claiming the ALF has hurt either animals or people,
or that the charges against TWO of PETA's employees were somehow representative of the policies of the larger organization that has condemned them.

So, to regroup:
we have politicians screaming "terrorist" about political dissidents who oppose the suffering and slaughter of millions,
and have saved many from certain death,
and a fundamental ignorance of the direct-action illegal tactics that so often change the world.

I couldn't care less how you try to justify your own killing- that doesn't change that it IS killing.

this has gotten a bit out of hand, so let me just clear a few of my beliefs, just in case there have been any misconceptions.

i dont like PETA one bit, but i dont really believe "it is" a terrorist organisation. that picture is somewhat for comical purposes (hence the link is lolpics.se, which by the way may contain other content that you may find innapropriate). dont get me wrong, PETA contradicts itself a lot (and i dont know why the hell it opposes world of warcraft) but to me it seems like in america, all a politician has to do to decrease another's popularity a lot is label them a "terrorist". it seems a bit like macarthyism with the whole "red scare" thing all over again.

yeah again i wasnt really completely serious when i posted this. sorry about repeating myself, but that picture isnt to be taken completely seriously.

although it was just you two arguing but i thought i would just clear any misconception up.

If animal is suffering from an illness or severe injury, is it better to euthinise them or let them suffer?

wow----so many humans spewing so much hatred. as long as humans skin animals while they are still alive and left them suffer for hours while they die........as long as humans make dogs fight till one has it's face ripped off.......as long as humans kill dogs and cats for food by throwing them into troughs filled with boiling water........as long as koreans hang dogs up and beat them to death (to make them taste better due to the belief that released adrenaline ads great flavor)........as long as the amish in penn. run the most horrific puppy mills in existence.......i'll stop with the terrible examples. yes, all that is true. i've been in the animal rescue field as a volunteer for 14 years. been all over the planet. seen just crazy animal abuse. i've met ingrid newkirk, founder of peta. my hero. devoted her life to helping animals. lives like a bum, not like the head of the red cross who makes half a mil a year. to read human slugs belittle her and peta, to hear heartless humans practically endorse animal cruelty, well it's soul crushing. seems autistic humans are just as terrible as nt's. pretty f-ing sad

endorsing animal cruelty was neither said or implied. im against all the BS that humans do to animals but the fact is that if you want to save animals, go with some other organisation. saying that i endorse animal cruelty because i dont like the PETA is like saying that im an anarchist because i dont agree with the liberal democrats of england, as if thats the only politacal party and you MUST agree with them. there are more associations that help animals other than the PETA. dont point your accusations at me

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thats another question enitrely. depends whether the illness or injury can be cured to the extent where the animal could live a happy pain free life. if they cant then it is best to euthanise them, and they already do that. i just find it difficult to believe that around 97% of the animals that they've picked up were suffering from anything that couldnt have been helped. most of the pets or animals that animal centres rescue from horrible living conditions are given appropriate treatment, made healthy again and given new, responsible owners. if PETA are taking in the same kind of abandoned animals, how come the kill rate is so high?

i think peta is actualy watching this site, alot of peta supporters have shown up since we started discussing that whole milk thing

I'm starting to think the same thing. I may not have been here when they mentioned the milk thing, but it still seems like there's a bit of an uproar for them.

well theyve all joined during the last week so somethings been going down at peta

Does PETA think that they own Autism or something, are they worried that we will blow the cap off their rubbish Milk theory

Peta doesn't own my autism, and it will not take it away, from me.

that said, i sincerely hope they've been watching these last few posts. probably planning on making some horrible attempt to sue us

Realise how the peta-philes have suddenly dissappeared, I bet they are scared of us now

"THEY FOUND US OUT! WE DIDNT KNOW AUTISTIC PEOPLE COULD THINK!! RETREAT RETREAT"

been listening to 'people eating tasty animals' types for years. like i said, such hatred toward trying to help animals. have any of you seen a film of a dog being skinned while still alive and left to die a slow death? no, and you never will. "oooh, don't show me that" 5,000,000 animals killed in usa animal shelters each year. roughly 60% of all animals left at shelters. lots of people that peta hires are like you guys, couldn't care less about the non-human animals. it's a big group, and most resources go to fighting factory farms and fur industries, little money for background checks for hires 2000 miles from headquarters. those found skirting rules are fired quickly. gandhi was a man who thought all animals should be treated humanely.....think i'll go with his choices. the louie in the my name is a mixed breed dog who was used as a bait dog. that's a dog that animal fighters use to tease the fighting pit bulls. he was bitten over most of his head, one eye ripped, a shredded ear.............he now lives a comfortable life, healed and loved. i will protect him to the death. peta helps thousands of dogs like louie, even if it's to put them down to put them out of your misery. maybe this is a michael vick support group i've stumbled into. most postings sound like the things i've heard from dogfighters........

wait, so when you joined peta they gave you a shock video to watch? Thats brainwashing sir

We couldent give less about 'Animal Rights' know why? Because there are still PEOPLE in this world without rights, ive been dealing with you hippy-styled terrorists my entire life.

Go fight in sudan and see if you care about some dog, pets are nice but nothing to throw a fit over when it comes to real and prevalent problems that your so obbsessed with leeching and diverting off.

Peta compares farm animals to Jews in the holocaust and has condoned the actions of Jeffrey Dahmer. Again and again we have to put up with hysterical nonsense, your not helping anybody. Infact its 'Peta' that has been putting people off animal rights for the last 30 odd years since nobody wants to be typed with terrorism