ASDs=less sex?
Interesting theories and comments. Why couldn't the subject of obsession for someone with ASD be sex? Seems to me that I have read that some Aspies and others with ASD like sex a little too much, even to the point of what could be considered atypical. So, definitely not all (or probably even most) dislike or spurn sex.
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I don't think its specifically ASD's, but stuff like obesity & lower testosterone levels could be natures' way of trying to deal with overpopulation. If fewer people have children & (eventually) all the older people die, the human population will shrink & hopefully balance will be restored to the Earth b/c we'll be sucking up fewer resources.
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When you say that, is it b/c most people w/ ASD's are physically repulsive or at least ugly or just so awkward that any beauty they have (whether they're average-"drop dead gorgeous") is dimmed to nothingness or just "not worth it"?
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I've always believed that I had more sex than the NTs around me. I used to be a big man-ho. That was related to my Asperger's as well though because, before my diagnosis, I was so aware of a complete disconnect bewtween myself and everyone else. I would try to compensate by being as physically intimate as possible; it was the only way I could approach feeling comfortable. After I was diagnosed, I had very little interest in sex, especially casual sex.
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Anyone that has ever been in Latin America and the Caribbean. will realize that by comparison, modern North American society seems relatively asexual in comparison. There, south of the border, everyone seems to have sex on the brain. A lot of things quickly reinforce this impression- the rampant prostitution, the catcalling and harassment of any remotely attractive woman in public places, the fact that the women just plain look more feminine-shorter, smaller-boned, and with bigger and rounder asses, TV, newspapers, and magazines that seem a lot heavier on the beauty contest, celebrity gossip, and T&A aspects of life, the open pity that is shown toward anyone who is unattached-the consensus is no-one can be happy without being married, or at least having a boyfriend/girlfriend?
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Less sex = less people. Sounds to me like nature is finding another way to reduce the population, since we already got rid of massive virus infection with medicine. I don't see how this is necessarily a bad thing.
I also have 2 other thoughts:
1. Since when was NPD or ASD necessarily a recent thing? Narcissism has existed since the beginning of time according to historical recounts (not to mention the number of girls I know who have rather narcissistic boyfriends), and we don't even know how long ASD has developed, but we are finding that some famous people from centuries ago could possibly have had an ASD.
2. Isn't it you know, the women who chose these low testosterone guys to begin with? I don't mean that in a sexist way, but women choose their mates, not the other way around. So, say that Johnny has a rare genetic mutation from eons ago that caused him to have lower testosterone levels than the males around him. Well, in order to pass on that gene, a woman would've had to have chosen him for a mate. I don't see women going crazy over really macho guys any more, you don't even hear about it often. The guys girls go crazy over these days are guys like Justin Beiber and N' sync.
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I don't see any scientific evidence to support the claims in the article and I found it pretty typical to attribute most of the blame on women. Sexuality and assigned gender roles are two different things and sexuality has been proven to be far more diverse than our culture has ascribed in the past.
I could however see many reasons as to why many with ASD may be less likely to have sex. Asexuality is pretty common for those on the spectrum. Other issues related to AS can include hyper sensativity, poor social skills which are a little important in both mating rituals and relationships, and then of course the misconstrued signals we often miss. I know I have many of these issues.
Also obesity can play a huge role in abstinence. It is a well known fact that it can lower your testosterone levels, increase stress hormones and can give that person a poor self image hence depression.
Other than that, perhaps it's mother nature's way of reducing our population. With our population being as high as it is, it wouldn't surprise me that there are actually people with sexual problems.
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That seems to be poorly linked reasoning. In general, the reason for decreasing population is the same in major countries: More of the aging population are living and fewer people want to have children for reasons that vary from work to taking care of their aging family members. There is also the factor of casual sex. It provides the release without the high risk of STDs and pregnancy.
In the end, it's more of a sociological principal than anything else.
I'd say there is a variety of reasons why many people in the spectrum tend to be less sexual active whether it's fear of diseases,pregnancy,etc..Also not forgetting the fact some people may choose to be less active on a sexual level either by choice or circumstance whichever the case may be..Therefore there is no concrete answer to explain people in the spectrum's lack of sexual activity..Honestly, I've not been with a female sense the time of my former mate and that was 10ys ago so, I hold my difficulties in areas of social scenarios as well, not properly eradicating the internal(psychological) demons of my ancient past...
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Exactly! I see no reason to believe the central premise here: "people have less sex now than they used to". Just because Camille Paglia typed it doesn't make it true. I see no reason to argue about what the causes of the "less sex" epidemic are because we only have her word that there actually is one.
The whole notion is flawed from the git-go. As noted, more ASDs diagnosed does not mean there are statistically more Autistic people on the planet than ever before, only that more of those who are here are being recognized as Autistic.
For every person here on WP who claims to be asexual, there are ten guys pining for a relationship and I don't believe they're wishing so fervently for a platonic friendship. It may be more difficult for someone with poor social skills to meet and court, but that doesn't prevent it from happening, it just takes longer to find a suitable match, or to develop coping mechanisms and hookup skills.
This 'psychotherapist' apparently believes ASDs are more prevalent because she believes they're caused by environmental, rather than genetic factors (its the only logic that would support her hypothesis), and she also seems to believe Autistic people are ALL asexual which is ludicrous. But then she also seems to think people with Narcissisitic PD never get laid and from what I've seen there's a whole class of people specifically drawn to that type of personality.
Now she might be right about the rising level of obesity causing people to have less sex, but it would only start a round of bickering to speculate on that...
It is ludicrous, what she wrote. And I wonder if she thinks there is a decline in sexual activity, because she's not getting laid.
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