Father sticks up for his disabled daughter arrested

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19 Sep 2010, 1:45 am

If it was me, there might have been a punch up on the bus lol.


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19 Sep 2010, 3:17 pm

From what I've read about this incident, the father did report the bullying to the principal, but nothing was done to the bullies. Because of that, he felt he had no choice but to threaten the bullies himself.


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20 Sep 2010, 5:12 am

He shouldn't have gone to jail for that. Schools never do anything about bullying. My school spouted their BS to ofsted about anti bullying policies just to make themselves look good. But there was bullying going on right under teachers noses nearly EVERY DAY in lessons (with my best friend being the main target, sometimes me but not as often), but the bullies got ignored or lightly told off.


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20 Sep 2010, 7:46 am

Bully beef topic

Only Barbara Coloroso is allowed to speak out about bullying, as in her books and lectures. Lip service only. :roll: :evil:


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20 Sep 2010, 7:19 pm

If that was my kid, I would not have went on the bus and threatened the bullies, I would have went to the school and told them, either they do something about the bullies or they will have a lawsuit on their hands,and if that is not possible, I would make a BIG PUBLIC STINK about it. When there is bad publicity, the school boards and politicians usually step in and do something. This man has the right principles when it comes to defending his kid, but at the same time, he chose the wrong tactics. I think he should get a suspended sentence which means he does not threaten anyone and gets no criminal record (a slap on the wrist). He could argue in court that there was aggrivating circumstances and get a lighter sentence, which right now, that is his only option. I would ask my kid the name of every bully, then draft statement of claims for each parent along with a letter stating that if their kid continues to bully my kid, the statement of claim would be filed at the Court of Queen's Bench the next day after any bullying incident.


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21 Sep 2010, 8:54 am

I applaud the man who defended his daughter. If I can only hug him and say to him what a great dad he is for those parents who have disabled kids. But these kids picking on his daughter will grow up and become adult bullies. I thought only kids bully other kids, but adults do it too. Most likely the bullies parents were and still are bullies. Now if only the dad could have given them a beat down. :twisted:


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21 Sep 2010, 9:19 am

That's a real toughie. What he did was wrong, however I totally understand how bad schools can be when it comes to bullying. I think if he had done the same but just maybe left out the whole killing bit... maybe would have been better. Hopefully they will leave her alone now.


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21 Sep 2010, 11:55 am

Bully victims can always fight back but it can be deadly (Columbine for example) I was bullied too, but I wouldn't use deadly force. But if my kid was bullying another kid I wouldn't be a parent no more. I do not tolerate bullying whether verbal, emotion or physical. I don't know why schools don't do anything about bullying. I would think Columbine would open the schools admins eyes, but I guess not. They probably think oh they are just kids they will grow up later. Well bullies do grow up and become adult bullies. I had to see the video of this dad protecting his daughter again and I still think he did the right thing. He is such a great dad and I personally want to hug him. AWW now these bullies are going to cry and whine to their parents. :lol:


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21 Sep 2010, 4:19 pm

We can argue about the rights and wrongs of the matter but hell if the bullies end up taking that father's threats to heart and never bully his daughter again...then the $2000 bail and the night in jail will have definitly paid off. The fact that it's making national news is a payoff in itself.

It's a sad fact but maturity and lawsuits do very little to reform these kids. Vicious tactics are all they know thus the same must be done in kind.



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21 Sep 2010, 8:45 pm

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A grown man got on a school bus full of children and threatened to f&%ing kill them. WTF! That is all shades of wrong. I have no problem with him sticking up for his daughter, but as an adult and supposedly mature individual he should know how to express himself in a way that does not involve death threats to children that look like they are not more than 12 years old. If someone got on a bus like that and made threats and my child was on that bus, I would be demand a psych eval, background check and review if he has any gun permits. People seem tighty wound, unpredictable, and irrational these days. That man should go to jail if only to set an example.


What I don't understand is why the bullies aren't forced to go to prison for assault. Why is this father arrested, yet children the who assaulted his daughter are let off the hook? Why are little children allowed to get away with sh*t that adults aren't? Why is the victim who reacts in a rage always punished more harshly than the bullies? That kind of injustice is what causes the rage in the first place. There's literally nothing the parents can do. No matter what they do the bullies always win.

I'm sorry but our society is completely f***ed up for allowing this. Children aren't innocent little angels. Bullies know exactly what they're doing and are in full control. They should face the same consequences that adults would for assaulting other children. That means the hammer of the law comes down on thier ass just as it would for an adult, and I don't give a sh*t if the mommy and daddy cry boo hoo that their stupid little brat has to do time. WAKE UP PEOPLE!



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22 Sep 2010, 4:05 am

He definitely should not have done that. He scared the hell out of a bunch of kids, threatened to kill one of them and verbally attacked the bus driver. That's abot as worse, maybe more so then what those children did to his kid.



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22 Sep 2010, 8:01 am

marshall wrote:
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A grown man got on a school bus full of children and threatened to f&%ing kill them. WTF! That is all shades of wrong. I have no problem with him sticking up for his daughter, but as an adult and supposedly mature individual he should know how to express himself in a way that does not involve death threats to children that look like they are not more than 12 years old. If someone got on a bus like that and made threats and my child was on that bus, I would be demand a psych eval, background check and review if he has any gun permits. People seem tighty wound, unpredictable, and irrational these days. That man should go to jail if only to set an example.


What I don't understand is why the bullies aren't forced to go to prison for assault. Why is this father arrested, yet children the who assaulted his daughter are let off the hook? Why are little children allowed to get away with sh*t that adults aren't? Why is the victim who reacts in a rage always punished more harshly than the bullies? That kind of injustice is what causes the rage in the first place. There's literally nothing the parents can do. No matter what they do the bullies always win.

I'm sorry but our society is completely f***ed up for allowing this. Children aren't innocent little angels. Bullies know exactly what they're doing and are in full control. They should face the same consequences that adults would for assaulting other children. That means the hammer of the law comes down on thier ass just as it would for an adult, and I don't give a sh*t if the mommy and daddy cry boo hoo that their stupid little brat has to do time. WAKE UP PEOPLE!



I do agree. Just because they are kids, they should suffer consequences of bullying. Send these bullies to an adult prison and let them set with adult men inmates. Let them get bullied. :twisted:


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22 Sep 2010, 11:28 pm

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Ok, seriously, the bullies should've been expelled. The dad shouldn'tve had to apologize. He used words, whereas the bullies were physically striking this girl and putting an open condom on her head.



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30 Sep 2010, 10:56 pm

I think what he did was awesome. The kids who bullied her deserved to be scared a little bit.


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01 Oct 2010, 5:35 pm

Gotta love the "expert's" solution.

A) "Utilize the system that is already in place." (HELLO! That's what he did and it didn't work! ~ Love how the "experts" pay attention to the reality of the situation)

B) "Remove the bullied child from the bus." (Yeah. Great solution! Teach the bullies that what they do actually works!)

Neither of these are solutions, unless utilizing the existing system actually works.

The solution is for the damned bullying to STOP!

The system needs to document this crap. The bullies need to be dealt with. Not the father who stuck up for his child! HE was doing his damned JOB!

To be looking at this from the point of view of what he did wrong is just stupid. What should be being looked at is what the schools are NOT doing that they should be so this BS doesn't happen to begin with.

Taking the attitude that "bullying is going to happen," is the most ignorant way I can think of to approach it.

Children are not unpredictable forces of nature. They are not tornadoes and hurricanes that can't be stopped. They are human beings who need to be TAUGHT how to behave. If we take on the attitude that bullying WILL happen and is just a part of life, we are teaching them that we expect them to do it!


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02 Oct 2010, 4:26 am

I think it's worth pointing out that attempting to deal with a bully 'outside the system' runs the risk of prompting the the bully's friends and allies (who may not know the circumstance that led to such a confrontation) to view you as the bully and the attempt to deal with you 'outside the system' in turn. Additionally, if the 'outside the system' solution is an escalation of force, or is seen as such, it may no longer be perceived as an appropriate response to the situation. This is actually a risk for any form of vigilantism, no matter how well meaning or apparently justified it is.


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