Protests in Egypt, trying to follow Tunisias lead.

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29 Jan 2011, 9:38 am

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It's great that the US is worried about it's client dictator and brilliant for the Egyptian people that his downfall is now being talked about. The Egyptian people have the same right to choose their own government that americans have.


The Wahabites and the Brotherhood will take over now.

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Where were they today? Not amongst the young liberal protesters thats for sure.


Recall the French Revolution. Started by idealist and pissed off housewives. Finished by the likes of Robespierre and Napoleon.

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29 Jan 2011, 12:03 pm

So, where is Egypt going? And how will this affect others nearby, like Saudi Arabia and Yemen. Could this be the beginning of an ultra radical Islamic movement in the region? Will Egypt be more radicalized?



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29 Jan 2011, 12:15 pm

A summary of 24 different cases of rioting which have happened all around the world so far this year,

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2F9kn9KfFA[/youtube]


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29 Jan 2011, 12:56 pm

World governments should get together and think of something or the whole world could become destabilized.



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29 Jan 2011, 1:13 pm

For the record, Yemen was in the news yesterday in Montreal regarding revolts. :>

I'm rather happy to see dictatorships crumble. I mean, i doubt the people could elect any worse, or AT LEAST they'll keep a closer eye on who's in charge, assuming they'll serve their well-being and the country's interests and NOT the ones of those in charge. -.-



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29 Jan 2011, 1:32 pm

as countries start rioting one by one over oppression and some over food, more economies are going to collapse in on themselves (cheers monetary system and thank you bankers).

As this happens more and more people will be out on the streets all around the world and as trading gets hit people will be in starvation.

THIS will have a knock on effect and get more people questioning the way the world is run and they could get very violent.

Depending on which countries are affected initially, this may cause a domino effect across many parts of the world since many countries rely on imports for food and because there have been food shortages predicted.

Also because of financial ties between nations stopping could create a domino effect as well.


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29 Jan 2011, 1:53 pm

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
World governments should get together and think of something or the whole world could become destabilized.


Don't so worried, its not likely any oppressive dictators will be established from this(that is without outside interference). This is likely the result of the internet one countries people inspiring the others to take their governments underhand, any radical government being established would have to execute its polarizing political opponent and that would likely set off some international organization.



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29 Jan 2011, 8:41 pm

Now rioting in Saudi Arabia, but on a smaller scale. Arrests have been made.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/162512.html

http://fedupmontrealer.blogspot.com/201 ... -2011.html

A person told me that the Saudi King is supporting Egypt's Mubarak. Could get a lot of people pissed off if you ask me.


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29 Jan 2011, 11:33 pm

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So no Internet, but Mubarak gets all the gigabytes of RAM-eses in Egyptian cyberspace?


Dial M for Modem (not Mubarack) topic

Hang up on Hosni. :twisted:

Unitl then, it is al-Jazeera.


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30 Jan 2011, 6:24 am

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
World governments should get together and think of something or the whole world could become destabilized.


Governments are the problem, not the solution.

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30 Jan 2011, 10:11 am

Al Jazeera Shut Down By Egyptian Authorities!

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30 Jan 2011, 10:11 am

Governments are not the problem. Why are people so antigovernment? Government in the US has done more to help people here and abroad and we should be grateful for it. If it wasn't for our government, we would be much worse off. We can't even imagine how much. We need to change the policies that aren't working, but please, don't condemn government completely! A government that is behaving badly is one that needs to be reformed, not done away with entirely.
One thing that confounds me, why does our government support Mubarak when his government oppresses and tortures people, not to mention election tampering? We need to stop being hypocritical and let the Egyptians choose, even if it is something we don't want to see, like the extremists taking over. Who are we to decide for Egyptians who their government will be?
Should outsiders decide who the US's government is?



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30 Jan 2011, 10:59 am

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
Governments are not the problem. Why are people so antigovernment? Government in the US has done more to help people here and abroad and we should be grateful for it. If it wasn't for our government, we would be much worse off. We can't even imagine how much. We need to change the policies that aren't working, but please, don't condemn government completely! A government that is behaving badly is one that needs to be reformed, not done away with entirely.
One thing that confounds me, why does our government support Mubarak when his government oppresses and tortures people, not to mention election tampering? We need to stop being hypocritical and let the Egyptians choose, even if it is something we don't want to see, like the extremists taking over. Who are we to decide for Egyptians who their government will be?
Should outsiders decide who the US's government is?


lol, i'll be grateful for our government when they stop murdering, torturing, and stealing from the people. that will never happen since that's what government does. Government is violence.



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30 Jan 2011, 12:28 pm

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lol, i'll be grateful for our government when they stop murdering, torturing, and stealing from the people. that will never happen since that's what government does. Government is violence.

It's true, our government needs reforming in some respects.
However, if it didn't exist, you would have huge vigilante gangs roaming around looting, kidnapping, trafficking, stealing property. You wouldn't have central organization that's crucial for civilization. It would be much worse than it is now, and you wouldn't like it.
Things could actually be much worse than they are now.
In the US, you have the right to vote elected officials into office. If you don't like your government, you have to remember, you voted for them in the first place. You have to take some responsibility for the way things are since we live in a representative democracy. You can't lay the blame entirely on the government.



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30 Jan 2011, 1:10 pm

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
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lol, i'll be grateful for our government when they stop murdering, torturing, and stealing from the people. that will never happen since that's what government does. Government is violence.

It's true, our government needs reforming in some respects.
However, if it didn't exist, you would have huge vigilante gangs roaming around looting, kidnapping, trafficking, stealing property. You wouldn't have central organization that's crucial for civilization. It would be much worse than it is now, and you wouldn't like it.
Things could actually be much worse than they are now.
In the US, you have the right to vote elected officials into office. If you don't like your government, you have to remember, you voted for them in the first place. You have to take some responsibility for the way things are since we live in a representative democracy. You can't lay the blame entirely on the government.


We have that now, it's called the government.



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30 Jan 2011, 2:54 pm

Jacoby wrote:
ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
lol, i'll be grateful for our government when they stop murdering, torturing, and stealing from the people. that will never happen since that's what government does. Government is violence.

It's true, our government needs reforming in some respects.
However, if it didn't exist, you would have huge vigilante gangs roaming around looting, kidnapping, trafficking, stealing property. You wouldn't have central organization that's crucial for civilization. It would be much worse than it is now, and you wouldn't like it.
Things could actually be much worse than they are now.
In the US, you have the right to vote elected officials into office. If you don't like your government, you have to remember, you voted for them in the first place. You have to take some responsibility for the way things are since we live in a representative democracy. You can't lay the blame entirely on the government.


We have that now, it's called the government.

Um, the government hasn't stolen anything from me or tried to have me tortured or killed. If given the choice between not having government or having what's there now, I would choose having what's there now.