Iranian Book Celebrating Suicide Bombers Found in Arizona De

Post Reply New Topic

I'm afraid i wasn't being literal in my original comment and it's been taken the wrong way.

I think you are underestimating the ingenuity of those trying to get over the boarder in general, and the resources available to some of them. Static solutions to dynamic problems don't work.

You might think about some reasons why this fence would fail if you envision yourself as someone who wants to cross into the US from Mexico and there is a big wall in your way. How would you do it if you were a poor migrant worker? How would you do it if you had managed to save $10,000? How would you do it if you were a rich drug lord and wanted to get drugs across?

Some other things to consider would be, what are the differences between the US/Mexico region and Israel/West Bank region that factors into the effectiveness of such a wall?

How are the situations different? How are the resource needs different?

You will find there are actually a lot of differences.

This program wouldn't be your typical work visa program one way or another. When illegal immigrants live in the US with their family, that family was either already here, crossed over and also works, or was born here legally.



What does it matter if the labor is skilled or not if the employer cannot easily find an American citizen to hire either way? Personally I'd be more concerned about skilled jobs in general going to foreign workers when there are qualified American citizens. This happens all the time in the technology sector and it would happen a lot more if so many jobs didn't require proof of citizenship for security clearance.

And on another note, don't think that just because someone is a migrant laborer, that the jobs they do don't require a considerable level of skill. Many of the ones you see working construction sites and in the fields inherited their skills from families who have been working those jobs for generations.



You can see what I said to the other guy as to why a wall doesn't work. And whether you like it or not, you can't just go shooting across borders with a military for any reason unless you want to cause a full scale war. Then you will have far more problems then you started with and have defeated your initial purposes.



Is Canada a better place than the US? In general, probably not. Is it a worse place than the US? Again, in general, probably not.



Mexico is in North America, but regardless, I do agree with the first part of what you said. I disagree that a bloody revolution is needed to change this though. Mexico doesn't need any type of political revolution, but a change in the mentalities of the people. I fear, however, that Mexico is heading for a revolution, and not one that will have any positive impact on the country. Rather, I believe the government will eventually collapse under it's own ineffectiveness, and the country will be ruled by drug lords and those communist revolutionaries that have been trying to take control of the south.

I often wonder what the region would be like today if the US never gave any of it back after the Mexican American war.

Still not had it established if they were saying that they would arrest someone for having the book in the first place?

Doubtful that they meant that - just that someone who would carry a book praising terrorists is more likely to do something to get him arrested. "In connection with", not "as a result of".

This is why more and more people are considering liberals to be completely deranged.



I will be more cynical and point out that if he actually posts his sources I could actually completely debunk his sources because of their conflicts of interest and credibility issues in the past.

jamieboy was implying that tea partiers hold "reading" in low regard.

...as he already pointed out that he wasn't being literal. good thing you can completely debunk his sources because of their conflicts of interest and credibility issues in the past, though! those silly deranged liberals...

That's the worrying link. I own a copy of Mein Kampf, but I am unlikely to commit genocide any time soon.

Building a wall would only waste money and confuse wildlife. Building an electric fence would only waste a lot of money and cook wildlife. An unmanned barrier won't solve anything.

What we should do is have military bases and remote-controlled drones along the border patrolling. We should, in the same bill, also make immigration easier to reduce the need for people who just dream of a better life to cross illegally. That way both sides get what they want. That's how it was done back when we had great compromisers like Henry Clay in DC.

Now I'm an environmentalist, but I would have no problem with patrols moving through wildlife sanctuaries so long as they follow guidelines not to live any trash or kill any wildlife. It would certainly be less destructive to the sanctuaries than letting a bunch of cartel goons tromp through as they see fit.