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03 Mar 2011, 10:26 pm

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In all seriousness so he has a physics degree, that doesn't mean he understands economics or has any common sense.

I don't think ruveyn made any such claim. In fact, ruveyn seemed disappointed that he was a Democrat.

For the record, a total of three physicists have served in Congress. Two were liberal Democrats, one was a moderate Republican whose votes split right down the center.

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He is not the only person in congress with a college degree.

Of course not, most people in congress have a degree of some sort. But most of them were business majors, which means that the hardest classes they took in their time at college were easier than the stuff I took in high school. Business is the biggest cakewalk major there is. There are very few politicians with degrees in rigorous or technical fields that actually require a high level of intelligence.

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He attended Joseph A. Craig High School in Janesville and went on to graduate from Miami University in Oxford, Ohio with a B.A. in economics and political science in 1992 and is a member of the Delta Tau Delta fraternity.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Ryan

Poli sci is an incredibly easy major, with econ it depends on the university (at my school econ is a cakewalk) but I know a lot of people at MU Oxford and my impression of that school is not at all favorable.

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She graduated from Winona State University and later received her J.D. degree from Oral Roberts University and an LL.M. degree in tax law from the William & Mary Law School.[8][dead link] She was a member of the final graduating class of Oral Roberts' law school, and was part of a group of faculty, staff, and students who moved the ORU law school to what is now Regent University.[9]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michele_Bachmann

Evangelical diploma mill.

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Boehner attended Cincinnati's Moeller High School and was a linebacker on the school's football team, where he was coached by future Notre Dame coach Gerry Faust.[7] Graduating from Moeller in 1968, when U.S. involvement in the Vietnam War was at its peak, Boehner enlisted in the United States Navy but was honorably discharged after eight weeks because of a bad back.[8] He earned his B.A. in business administration from Xavier University in 1977, becoming the first person in his family to attend college, taking seven years as he held several jobs to pay for his education.[5]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Boehner

Business major is not impressive. You can quite easily be drunk out of your mind for four years solid (and knowing Boehner, he probably was) and still earn a business degree.

While there are fine religious schools of higher learning, Oral Roberts University is a joke.

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04 Mar 2011, 1:39 am

cave_canem wrote:

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Business major is not impressive. You can quite easily be drunk out of your mind for four years solid (and knowing Boehner, he probably was) and still earn a business degree.

lol, you could say the same thing about engineering. actually, i thought being drunk like that was a pre-requisite for engineering.

Engineering is a difficult degree to study. It requires a lot of rigorous and challenging courses.

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Actually Orwell, that could be chalked up as a personal attack of Speaker Boehner if you looked up his background.

OK? Even members of his own party have commented that Boehner is a bit too fond of booze. And he's my congressman; I've watched his sleazy act my entire life. The guy is nothing but a whore to corporate America.

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"They think he's a rich guy who's got this tan, goes into tanning beds, plays golf all the time, goes to the country club," she said. "That's not John Boehner."

Except... it quite literally is him. He's rich, he uses tanning beds, and he spends hundreds of thousands of dollars (some of it taxpayer money) on playing golf at the country club.

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Looks like he was too busy with a part time job and actually being responsible to go out and get drunk.

So he became an alcoholic later, then. Whatever.

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11 Mar 2011, 8:36 am

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Why won't the voters choose politicians with a science/engineering/math background? In theory, voters are free to choose these individuals, but for some reason they don't. If you voted against him just because he's a democrat, then you're also contributing to the popular bias against electing people with meaningful skills.

Most scientists can't stomach a lifetime of standing up in front of people and lying their pants off everyday. Leave that to the people that have no self respect and a tendency for alcoholism. I do agree that there should be more logically capable people in Government. The idea of politicians making sound logical decisions without resorting to hysteria, flash mobs and accusations of racism would be welcome. But, scientists are outsiders in the world of politics. Is it by design?

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11 Mar 2011, 10:39 am

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Evil might be a bit too strong of a word. But certainly, in order to be good citizens, we have to watch our leaders, and if necessary, be critical of them.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

And if they ever come to our houses for dinner we should count the silverware afterward.

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11 Mar 2011, 1:18 pm

ruveyn wrote:

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Evil might be a bit too strong of a word. But certainly, in order to be good citizens, we have to watch our leaders, and if necessary, be critical of them.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

And if they ever come to our houses for dinner we should count the silverware afterward.

ruveyn

Granted.

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11 Mar 2011, 2:52 pm

Oh, no. I've been given a reason to LIKE Newt Gingrich!!
Wait, I'm confusing him with Rush Limbaugh....ok, I guess I can stand Newt.

I think a history degree is an excellent qualification for a politician.

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11 Mar 2011, 7:18 pm

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I have a history degree, too, but I still can't stand that a**hole Gingrich.

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12 Mar 2011, 4:53 pm

Just because you can memorize a lot of stuff doesn't mean you are intelligent. I would choose a wise person over a knowledgeable person any day. Why? Because the wise are wise. And there are a lot of knowledgeable people.

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13 Mar 2011, 1:18 am

I would be nice if our politicians had a broader education base. Too many lawyers and businessmen and not enough everything else. Don't get me wrong, nothing wrong with lawyers/businessmen being in government, but some variety of education would be nice, so when s**t happens, someone there knows wth is going on.

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13 Mar 2011, 5:16 am

ducky9924 wrote:

The businessmen who are also engineers and applied scientists have something of value to offer.

Lawyers are worthless as ethical agents.

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13 Mar 2011, 6:28 pm

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While most politicians have a background of being a lawyer, I don't think many of them are businessmen.

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13 Mar 2011, 7:51 pm

Inuyasha wrote:

While most politicians have a background of being a lawyer, I don't think many of them are businessmen.

I haven't actually gone through and counted, but my general impression has always been that businessmen are more common than lawyers in politics.

OK, just looked it up; a whole ton of politicians are lawyers. The majority of Senators, at least. I suppose my incorrect impression comes from hearing too many political ads where the candidate brags about being a businessman.

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13 Mar 2011, 8:09 pm

It is more in the interest of businessmen to be conservatives.

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13 Mar 2011, 8:33 pm

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While most politicians have a background of being a lawyer, I don't think many of them are businessmen.

Businessmen are only just now trying to go enmass into politics because they are getting fed up with the idiocy of lawyers. Businessmen generally have tried to play both sides in the past so they don't offend anyone. This last election was unusual in the fact that businesses got so fed up with Democrats in Washington they threw all their support to the Republicans.

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13 Mar 2011, 9:27 pm

Inuyasha wrote:

Orwell wrote:

Inuyasha wrote:

While most politicians have a background of being a lawyer, I don't think many of them are businessmen.

Or the businessmen saw a chance for a functional plutocracy by supporting Republicans.

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13 Mar 2011, 9:34 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:

Inuyasha wrote:

Orwell wrote:

Inuyasha wrote:

While most politicians have a background of being a lawyer, I don't think many of them are businessmen.

Or the businessmen saw a chance for a functional plutocracy by supporting Republicans.

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Well it is official, next time you accuse me of being partisan I can say: "That's the pot calling the kettle black."

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