Obama trying to cause a 2nd Holocaust

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Well you're right on that. Anyone who thinks that Obama is trying to cause a holocaust needs to re-examine themselves before they make bizarre statements.

Fox news is the most dumbed-down news network I have ever seen and I'm smart enough not to believe anything they say. People in other countries laugh at Americans because of the stupidity that comes out of Fox.

You do know that in the Suez Crisis of 1956 President Eisenhower threatened to use US military force AGAINST Israel, right? And would have had Israel not withdrawn, to, umm, the same borders Obama is talking about today. So, a Republican president -- by your rather obscure logic -- not only would have tried to cause a second holocaust, he would have actively participated in it.



That's quite impressive, given their unending and unapologetic support for a convicted traitor like Jonathan Pollard, the fact that they've (illegally, but who's counting?) sold classified military technology to the Chinese, and managed odds and ends like this along the way:



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So, Alfred Tello has his head chopped off, his body burnt to a crisp and when the US asks for the return of the prime suspect from Israel, what do we get? Essentially, a giant f**k you. Boy, we couldn't ask for a better "ally," could we? One that's always there for the US and its citizens. Interesting that last bit, too, how apparently US courts are unfit to judge Jews. Are those your sentiments as well?

Quite frankly I'd be quite content if Netanyahu chose to ignore Obama, as long as that also meant refusing any more US money, loan guarantees, and whatever else is in the cornucopia of goodies we shower on them annually. Might actually be a smart move on Israel's part, come to that, since there's absolutely no way we can continue giving aid as we have in the past for much longer. And they can go look for a new sugar daddy, one with money to burn.

How is that?


And exactly how big is the area that the Palestinians are crammed into?





Shouldn't your choice in politicians be decided by their stance on domestic issues first and international issues second?

That doesn't fly because you didn't have rocket attacks from the West Bank. Technology has improved since 1956, furthermore Obama is proposing giving that land to terrorists.

Israel gained the land in 67 after being attacked by Syria, Egypt, and Jordan.



We generally do not extradite US citizens to other countries either (partially because US Citizens often would not receive fair trials in certain countries either). Israelis are also rather sensitive about giving up their citizens to any other country due to the fact that Europe is kinda responsible for letting the Holocaust happen, and Americans turned a blind eye... Many people in the Israeli Government are decendents of holocaust survivors and/or are holocaust survivors...

We have Arabs/Palestinians running around screaming kill the Jews?

I really don't see why you don't have a problem with it, cause you would probably have a problem with a bunch of people running around screaming kill the black man...

I will accept your silence as an inability to answer the questions.

Because it sets Israel up to be overrun at it's most narrow point, split in half, and conquer the remaining pockets of resistance.


3 miles is within the range of shoulder launched missiles, and the narrowest part of the west bank is 24 miles- 2.5 times the narrowest part of Israel.


There's more than enough foreign and domestic policy related reasons to get rid of Obama in '12 even without this insult to Israel.

What I dont get is what prompted this 180 on US relations with Iseral???
The terrorists say that they attack us because of our support with Iseral...maybe this is a white flag??

Obama never really liked Israel to begin with. He's just now showed his true feelings.

The state of Israel is not representative of "the Jewish people". It is only representative of Israelis, most of whom are secular, and 22% of whom are christian, muslim, druze, samaritan, etc.

Most of the jewish population of the world resides in the United States.



I believe there is about 8 miles to the sea from the Eastern border of the Gaza strip.

The population density of Israel:
356.3/km^2

The population density of Palestinian territories combined.
707.75/km^2



Personally I don't care who you vote for, however I maintain that ideally Americans should vote for American politicians with the best interest of Americans in mind, not the best interest of others at the expense of Americans.

That's nice, but this is a national security issue for Israel, not a humanitarian issue. If the Palestinians ever made peace with Israel, then Israel could start rolling back restrictions and address humanitarian concerns.


Obama screws up just about everything he touches, so there's no shortage of reasons to get rid of him due to both his foreign and domestic policies. Israel is our most genuine ally in the middle east and we need to watch their back!

Number one, I seriously doubt Obama is purposely seeking another holocaust. In fact, when Obama had talked about Israel returning to it's 1967 borders, he also talked about "give and take" concerning territory. Essentially, Israel could still look out for their security in trading land back and forth with the Arabs.
And number two; as someone else has already pointed out, Obama is our president. First and foremost, his concerns should be our domestic policies and national security, not some other county's national concerns.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgaeur

As John Browning pointed out Obama is telling the Israelis to set themselves up for another genocide.



Gaza Strip was originally under Egyptian control, West Bank was the land that Jordan seized from the Palestinians in 1948, when several Arab countries attacked Israel under 24 hours after it became a country (referring to modern Israel, not Biblical). Nobody was demanding the Jordanians give up West Bank to the Palestinians, no people only started demanding it be given up after Israel took it away from Jordan in the 6 day war.

Here are facts that the mainstream media refuse to tell people.
1. Israel is not out to annihilate the Palestinians, the Palestinians (especially with Hamas now running things) are out to exterminate every Israeli down to the last newborn infant.

2. The restrictive treatment towards the Palestinians is because of suicide bombers (and the fanatics being willing to use young children as explosive devices).

If the Arabs laid down their arms there would be peace within a week and no-one would be killed. If the Israelis laid down there arms we would witness a second holocaust.

Obama has demonstrated that he despises Israel long before this, anyone that actually paid attention to Fox News would know about how the media did its best to cover up Obama's radical ties.

Also in response to:


Your comment is rather hysterical, especially when it is coming from an individual that believes a news network that has someone whom is also serving as an advisor for the White House as one of their news correspondents.

Specifically Fareed Zakaria, of CNN.
A conservative media watchdog is calling on a CNN correspondent to recuse himself from foreign policy reporting, due to his close ties with the Obama White House.



The Media Research Center (MRC) is denouncing CNN for allowing Fareed Zakaria, the host of Fareed Zakaria GPS, to secretly meet with President Barack Obama on issues of foreign policy that affect the United States, as he is supposed to report objectively on those issues.

"He is somebody who has not announced that he has this relationship with the Obama White House," notes Rich Noyes, director of research at the MRC. "He had not previously said that he was someone the president was getting advice from. He's been commenting on the president's foreign policy without acknowledging to viewers or readers that he's among the people helping at least give input behind the scenes."

Noyes points out that CNN had criticized Fox News Channel executive Roger Ailes for sending President George W. Bush a letter of support following 9/11.

"CNN was on the air making fun of that and suggesting that...giving a note of support to the president after September 11, 2001, was somehow a huge violation of Fox's 'fair and balanced' reporting," the MRC director explains. "Well, now they have their own columnist who's stepped up to help the White House with its foreign policy, and the question is will anybody at CNN ask him to stop reporting on President Obama's foreign policy?"


Noyes further adds that Zakaria actually used CNN to openly endorse Obama in 2008.

http://www.onenewsnow.com/Culture/Defau ... id=1349658

Okay so Fox News sends Bush a letter of support following the biggest terrorist attack in this Nation's history, and that apparently isn't okay. Apparently, it is okay for CNN to have a correspondent also being Obama's advisor at the same time?!?!?!

Quite frankly, what Fox News did was not unethical, it was put politics aside as Americans immediately following 9/11/2001. CNN is being unethical, because they have an Obama lackey (probably getting a White House paycheck as well) as one of their correspondants and a host.

How had Obama proven he hates Israel? And no, I don't consider guilt by association to mean anything.
As for Fareed Zachariah - I would think the White House would want to speak to communicate with one of the foremost experts on the Middle East.
But, as your evangelical friends are certain that the world is going to end tomorrow at 6 p.m., we shouldn't have to worry about any long term consequences of Obama's Middle Eastern policy.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

but it is not just Obama doing this, it is most of our allies in the UN that are calling for this and Obama is in the middle between the UN and Iseral. Not that I think Obama is all that, but the vote is on his head. I see this more as a measure to give in to terrorists because they attacked us because of our support with Iseral. They attack our allies because they support us who supports Iseral. I am not saying that makes Obama's choice the right one, but it is something to consider as far as motive.

Because if we don't then what?

I think Ron Paul will win the election his consistancy will win out.