Obama approval down, Romney takes lead in polls

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Obama's half-measures have failed. He should give that LBJ speech. "I shall not seek and I shall not accept the nomination of my party to be your president".

Obama thought he could mix neoclassical economics and "confidence fairy economics" and Keynesianism and make it work. Impossible. He let Rahm Emanuel say "1 trillion dollars? That's too scary" though the economic advisers said that things would only work if it was about $1.4 trillion.

The way they pissed money away on really stupid "bridge to nowhere" type protects, they would have needed $10 trillion and it would still eventually fail and we'd end up even more in the hole because about $5 trillion would end up leaving the country. Some of the stuff I read in the original bill was absolutely idiotic and most of the construction I've seen that was advertised that it was paid for with Obama bucks (how many of those signs did congress buy and how much were they?) are worthless at best.

By biggest problem with his money management is not that it's a liberal doctrine, but because he has no clue about money management. At least most past democratic presidents understood that you can't get all the money you wish by printing up as much as you want or forcing taxpayers to magically pull it out of their asses.

Right Wingers constantly call me on the telephone and tell me that socialized medicine is evil and unbiblical. This is a total lie. In the bible the state of Israel has practiced socialized medecine for thousands of years. The people were taxed in a form of a tithe which was ten percent of their income. In exchange for this tithe everyone had access to health care even the poorest of the poor because if you were broke ten percent of zero is zero so your health care is free.

Excellent point.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

What the religious right canidates like Romney do not understand is that in Ancient Israel the Rabbis and Priests provided all of the socialized medical care. As long as the people paid their tithes A Rabbi could not deny medical care even if the tithe amounted to a meager one cent.

However todays conservatives love to say that if you can't afford thousand dollar premiums for health insurance then do without it. And conservatives love to say that socialized medicine will bankrupt this country. What really bankrupts this country is when rich people get a tax break and the tax burden falls to the poor.

And once again, excellent point.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

well national heath is feasable within the budget if we stop sending many billions of dollars to every country overseas who doesn't have the gumption to help themselves as well as ending reganomics...it has never worked but to make the rich, richer and poor, poorer and eleminate the middle class.
Also we need to just rid the earth of the terrorists in a more cost effeciant and specialzed manner, and end the war.
I am not going to say that we should end the war without weeding out the terrorists, but all this democracy building and playing bodyguard for counties who really dont want us there is a major reason we are in this finacial mess. Those who scream about the budget decifit on the hill are also the ones who proposed alot more defense spending. I like how they took out OBL, a small group of military experts, just took him out, no biggie....I personally think that they should do that to all the AL Quata leaders and let the minons disolve without structure.
Basicly what I am saying is we spend waaayy too much money in forgien affairs and we have our own folks suffering needlessly.
I dont think we will ever get rid of illegal imegrants as long as big corperations are running the show cause the illegal imegrants are just their whores which they can pay them however much that they want to in order to get the job done. It is the big corperations that actually keep them in the US. I know this because my uncle's family runs a 9 section corn and hog farm and he says that all the big Ag buisness need the aliens to keep in the black.
Please dont take my possition as an attack...I just think there has to be a better way to do this so our responcibility to our own people come first.

Your position is certainly not an attack on anyone. In fact, you make a lot of sense.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

thank you. I try not to hurt people's feelings while debating...I am senscitive so I know how it feels to be pounced upon. I actually like browning although I dont always agree with him from a political stand point.
However, no matter how much we debate how to solve the deficit, it does not change a thing because there are those in power who can care less about our country. All they care about is the next vote into office and short term personal gains at the expense of our nation. This is true on both sides of the political spectrum.
I read in the new york times that most of the Ceo's of major corperations and those in power fit the profile of sociopaths. That would explain their problem with long term conscequencal thinking. and total apathy for those who suffer from thier decisions.
I miss Teddy Kennedy already. I think he was the last politian who really cared about the people.

sorry for the rant...I feel rather hopless as to where things are headed.

Jojo

I wouldn't be too worried about bruising peoples' feelings here, as those of us who love debating politics understand that sometimes tempers can get heated, but for the most part, nothing really is meant by it personally.
As for the rest of your post, again, I find myself in total agreement.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

I cant say that I love to debate politics as much as I feel and urgency to get things said before we can no longer say things that oppose those in power. That day will come...I dont know when, but democracy has a life span, and we are at the end of its life in the US..
The same issues that befell the ancient democracies, are happening here as well. Most importantly, an internal class war and war mongering with other countries are what befell the ancient grecians, whom our country is modeled after to some degree. I am however not the steel plated debating type... I am actually very sencitive.

From what I heard in the news (I think it was Channel 6 action news), Obama still has the highest approval rating for the 2012 election. If this is true, I guess it turned into another "yesterday's news".

All new is "yesterday's news". By the time you hear it, things have changed.

ruveyn

expecially in campain season....things turn on a dime.
And sometimes, the polls are totally off.
the only poll that really counts is the ballot, although with electronic voting, thats not always reliable either like the diebold voting machines they haul to certain parts of the nation to "swing" certain key votes.
I read the last time they were used to replace Ted Kennedy's spot...no suprise that a key democrat area now has a republican senator.

It is a slow news season. The best Republican is Gordon Gecko, now out of jail. He can not vote, but could become President.

I like Nancy Regan, she can run in the mud.

Edward Edwins is also out of jail and looking for work. He would end foreign aid, they would be giving us money, in cash.


Obama is a sure thing in 12. Things will be so bad no one will want the job, but there is money in running.

McCrystal could do another Rolling Stone and pull some serious votes. Shila Blair got let go and declared a terrorist by the large banks. As VP she would not be Biden.

McCrystal would address Congress, wearing a sidearm. Something like Ike, without the nice guy act. When he ran the show we lost a lot less people. He would give Congress a tour of Afganistan, leave them there, and bring the troops home.

We have some hard times coming and need goal directed leaders, who are good friends with the 101st Airborne. How many Divisions does Wall Street have?

When it all fell apart for the Greeks, they appointed a Dictator, for five years. It bought another hundred years. Sometimes you have to clean house.