Ending the war on drugs due to racial profiling

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22 Jun 2011, 1:48 am

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Drugs can cause all kinds of health issues, brain damage, and death. While nonviolent addicts it could be argued need treatment, we need to look at how they got hooked in the first place, and some addicts aren't actually convicted because someone else was continually spiking something on them without their knowledge.

Illegal drugs should remain illegal though, addiction is not a laughing matter and we as a society have enough problems with cigarettes and alcohol.


I agree that drugs should not be allowed, but to imprison drug users is purely political because they need medical care not punishment. The punishment needs to go to the pushers, smugglers and producers for attempted murder.
I wish the courts would see that my friend never wanted to get hooked on crack, but I doubt that would happen in my state.


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22 Jun 2011, 6:18 am

Lawyers, Courts, Prisons, are making money off of drugs. Why should they change?

Prohibition did the same, and funded a crime syndicate that moved into Unions, Garbage hauling, Construction, and many other fields.

Addiction is a problem, mostly coming with prior problems, and turning addicts around takes having something better. Cured and unemployed, the problems come back.

For all of our science blocking the addiction brain centers eludes us.

Cutting off the supply has not worked. Blocking the borders. A domestic currency would. Cutting off the money supply would block illegal imports.

Letting the country become a bunch of crack heads is not an option.



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23 Jun 2011, 10:31 pm

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Lawyers, Courts, Prisons, are making money off of drugs. Why should they change?

Prohibition did the same, and funded a crime syndicate that moved into Unions, Garbage hauling, Construction, and many other fields.

Addiction is a problem, mostly coming with prior problems, and turning addicts around takes having something better. Cured and unemployed, the problems come back.

For all of our science blocking the addiction brain centers eludes us.

Cutting off the supply has not worked. Blocking the borders. A domestic currency would. Cutting off the money supply would block illegal imports.

Letting the country become a bunch of crack heads is not an option.


I like your idea of a domestic currentcy. I think that should be concidered. But how will that impact our ability to trade or will we have to become like china behind the wall and stop all trade to end the drug problem in the US??


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24 Jun 2011, 12:43 am

A domestic currency would nearly kill trade, but could still be traded by exchanging it for it's equivalent value gold is going for in the US. In other words, it would be easier to use on the black market than international commerce. The other thing that would happen is that businesses would start accepting the Euro and the Canadian dollar.


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24 Jun 2011, 3:45 am

I see the gold flaw, but it could not be wired out of the country. Illegals now export our money. Western Union checks nothing, banks do. Leaving the country involves metal detectors, Customs forms asking how much money you are taking out. With gold at $20,000 a pound, a million weighs fifty pounds, and a billion 50,000 pounds.

An international dollar keeps trade going, and being the reserve currency for the world. All legal dollars will be exchanged for new international dollars, Bank and Government Reserves, and all other dollars will become worthless after a period of exchange.

Keeping drug money from leaving the country also promotes money laundering here. It still forms a gateway to moving a few hundred billion offshore.

We deflate the value of our money through things like bailouts, QE2, which devalues international bank and government reserves. We export inflation.

Those are domestic programs. Two currencys, one with a stable long term international value, and one at home that can be inflated to pay for domestic programs. It is not quite the old gold standard, but it can be the world trade dollar.

A domestic currency can inflate, increase the money supply, Which while being worth less does bring mortgages out from underwater, and can produce the employment we need to get consumer spending going.

Exchanging domestic for international does bring questions, how earned, taxes paid, through banking channels. Domestic would be worthless out of the country. Illegals and drug profits would have problems.

The Government has run up debts of five years income, which now exceeds annual GNP. This can cause hyper inflation, till all the money becomes worthless. The US going bankrupt crashes the world. Then we will have a new national currency, that no one would take.

Two tier, stops the flow of illegal money, restarts our economy without placing the cost on those who bought our debt, and assures that we can pay our international debts. A stable world reserve currency is best for everyone.

A shortened workweek, a social safety net for Citizens only, obstructs the flow of money out of the country. We will return to the long term cycle of full employment, rising real wages, with a lower cost for prisons, drug treatment, and free medical care for people who should not be here.

I also favor a assured minimum income for all Citizens. It does away with Welfare, Food Stamps, WIC, SSI, and will allow some people to sit on the porch and drink beer. It will put those ex government workers in a new job somewhere, more productive I hope. It will phase out as they earn income, with the rates set so it is better to work. It will be a National ID Card, without saying so. A Citizen Benefit Card.

Unemployment insurance should be just that. Not a trade displacment program, which should be a cost of moving jobs out of the country. Those who pay in should earn benefits, and those who pay for longer should get more. Now it is all the same if you were employed for a year, five, ten, twenty, an insurance program should take into account the differance, and have higher payments, longer terms, for those who have been long term workers. They paid for themselves, not everyone.

When the Mob ran the numbers racket they skimmed 10% and paid out 90%. Now the States run it, pay out 50% and taxes the winners 70%. In good times the States pocket the unemployment, in bad times put the cost on all future workers. These people are not nearly as honest as the Mafia.

Keep the money in the country, make it impossible for illegals to live here, give an income to every Citizen, and a Citizen Benefit Card, needed to seek employment, rent property, open a bank account, and do what it takes to have full employment and a living wage. Consumers will revive the economy. It will cause domestic inflation, houses will become affordable, there will be buyers, and prices will go up. People can plan on a future.

Most of the cost of this goes directly to the poorest, they will spend it. Their children will be fed, educated, wear clothes, which is all good for our future. It will be good for Main Street, consumers with money, and will produce confidence in the future, something we are lacking.

Life will become harder for illegals, drug runners, illegal drug runners, people who ship untaxed money out of the country, and they will deport themselves. That is 20,000,000 and hundreds of billions of dollars a year, one will be gone, the other will stay.

We do not have to do anything to anyone, except Citizens, who get benefits for being Citizens.