Cantor: All Progress In Talks Erased

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Congress will NEVER allow defaulting on our debt obligations. The republicans simply see an opportunity to make Obama look stupid for a while so they're going to run with it. But there's absolutely no way at all they'd ever allow us to default. It would destroy the economy overnight and that mutually assured destruction is what will ensure there's a "last minute" deal to save us.

There's a big difference between sending spooks and instructors to El Salvador and sending warplanes and carrier-based marine expeditionary forces to Lybia. Just because we aren't using land bases does not mean there are no marines fighting there. Unless the 26th marine expeditionary force, later relieved by the 22nd marine expeditionary force (2,200 men each) doesn't constitute "boots on the ground" to you.

I admit I'm not up on all the details of our Libyan excursion as I should be. So far, I haven't heard of any American deaths, or of American soldiers killing any Libyans. Until active combat is reported, I don't see this as war just yet. And as I recall, Bill Clinton was able to halt Serbian aggression in the Balkans with air bombings. Even though I obviously lived through that, I can't recall if he had the congressional go ahead or not. And being that I have to be up early tomorrow, I'm not going to look it up.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

no offense, but military force is military force, boots on the ground or not...trying to seperate the two is like splitting hairs. I know you like Obama and all, but he dirrectly broke his campain promice when he said that he will strive to talk things over and not jump to war. He is a bit of a war mongerer. I dont think the US has been in this many wars at once since WWII.

just because there are no US casulties dosnt mean there are no libyan casulties. Military weapons are being used against those in libya...therfore it is war...if it is not war, then is it international homicide?

Well then let's just say we're perched on the precipice of war.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

The forces in Libya are on loan to NATO. The US has no involvment. It is just like NATO loans a few troops so our invasion of Afganistan becomes located somewhere in the North Atlantic. The News Reporters have fallen for this, as they report from mid Atlantic. That is why all news of Afganistan comes down to an occasional whale sighting.

Meanwhile Congress has declared they never knew anything about spending money, debts, and are in fact a tax free social club. They also claim it is impossible that 545 people could possibly spend $14.3 Trillion dollars. They would each have to spend two billion a year for ten years.

When informed that they did, and $30 Trillion in government income, over the last ten years, 30% of the Gross National Product, bringing the total to six billion a year each, Congress said that showed the need for Tax Cuts for job producers.

In emergency session Congress voted to double their pay, and take a ten year advance.

As the Leaders of The Free World, citing One Nation Under God, Homeland Security has been charged to round up all Heratics, unemployed internet users, and transport them to Special Facilities, for trial by Faith Based Organizations. Mandatory torture has been ordered. Those found guilty of lack of faith in God's Government will be burned at the stake, Live on Fox.

I would not bet on that. I think this has gone beyond a mere political contest (or game of chicken, if you will). I think this struggle has assumed a religious or philosophical aspect. But, we shall see. August is coming.

ruveyn

I think Clinton went to Congress within the allotted time period and got Congressional Approval over Bosnia, so don't drag him into this.

I haven't cared to look it up yet, so till then it's an open question for me.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

http://articles.latimes.com/1993-09-09/ ... ng-mission

Looks like he nearly pulled an Obama, but ultimately did seek Congressional Approval.

So y'see, better late than never!

-Bill, otherwise known a Kraichgauer

Clinton still got Congressional Approval within the allotted time period, Obama made it clear he could care less, and he supposedly taught Constitutional law.

Not supposedly. And he says he still won't?

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

So you getting the picture now?

Am I getting the picture? That he might get congressional approval?

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer