'Troll' sentenced for post death messages

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14 Sep 2011, 11:27 pm

If he was just talking crap on a internet forum or comment section of a online newspaper, that would have been rude but should be legal. However, deliberately directing such comments towards family and friends is harassment and he will be subject to the judgment of the local authorities for that one.


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15 Sep 2011, 9:02 am

That is so sick, what he did. I remember reading about what he did right after she died.

Way to give Aspies a bad name, Duffy... :evil:



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15 Sep 2011, 9:47 am

Sylkat wrote:
NONE of this has anything to do with Asperger's at all. One article explained that Asperger's individuals have difficulty understanding other people's reactions. This person understood exactly what the reaction would be: more pain to bear. I do believe that for Aspergers to have been brought up by the British media is unfair and potentially detrimental to the understanding that we are all lookin for from the mainstream.


My problem with that statement is that even with aspergers it should be relatively easy to read people's reactions online. There's no mistake in text. People really speak plainly there.

Can't say that I know of any truly cold aspies, though. Unintentionally rude maybe, but again I don't know about truly cold ones. So this raises doubt in another way.



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15 Sep 2011, 10:58 am

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It's a nasty, nasty thing to do but I don't think jailing people for what are basically insults is the right answer. Free speech and all that.

It may have served him better if people found out who he was and posted his details online instead.

Thing is, most the time nothing happens when people start insulting so what this guy did must have been really over the top and terrible to actually get put in jail for it. It must have gone beyond "free speech."



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15 Sep 2011, 7:51 pm

Dear Tequila and ooOoOAnaOoOoOoo, I am not arguing with your viewpoints, but I don't perceive his actions as insults. If I were to write, in a discussion room like this that '.....' was a coward to take her own life rather than stand up to bullies, that is opinion, and the word 'coward' is a judgement and an insult. Creating an image of a train with her face on the front of it is ridiculing the manner of her death, making a joke of it, actually, and is designed to cause further suffering for those who loved her. To clarify my own feelings, having known 2 people who ended their own lives, no one sees all of someone else's pain, to judge a suicide, condemn the person for his/her action, is a lack of compassion. What this man did was deliberate and cruel..I consider his actions to be harassment of the dead girl's families, and that Aspergers had absolutely nothing to do with it. Sylkat. :(



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15 Sep 2011, 8:17 pm

Sylkat wrote:
Dear Tequila and ooOoOAnaOoOoOoo, I am not arguing with your viewpoints, but I don't perceive his actions as insults. If I were to write, in a discussion room like this that '.....' was a coward to take her own life rather than stand up to bullies, that is opinion, and the word 'coward' is a judgement and an insult. Creating an image of a train with her face on the front of it is ridiculing the manner of her death, making a joke of it, actually, and is designed to cause further suffering for those who loved her. To clarify my own feelings, having known 2 people who ended their own lives, no one sees all of someone else's pain, to judge a suicide, condemn the person for his/her action, is a lack of compassion. What this man did was deliberate and cruel..I consider his actions to be harassment of the dead girl's families, and that Aspergers had absolutely nothing to do with it. Sylkat. :(

Agreed. Most people know better than to bother grieving people regardless of neurology. What this guy did was not an innocent faux pas by an individual unsure of what to say in this situation. These acts were deliberate and were done for malice's sake so the guy has to face the consequences and maybe it will act as a deterrent to other malicious trolls out there.



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15 Sep 2011, 8:23 pm

aspies typically know right from wrong, do critical thinking and honestly try to fit in. I've seen people act like bullies, because they think that makes them fit in, but he's the only one doing these horrid things. He's on his own. And like I said here, we typically work on the natural law of "if something's wrong we try to fix it." We're logical thinkers. Some more than others. This trait seems lost from him and is a big part of what makes an aspie an aspie, so I can only conclude that the label of him being an aspie is nothing, but a lie.



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19 Sep 2011, 12:20 pm

I've read the page twice and no-where does it say he was using the aspergers card. Sure someone used it for him, but it's still not a valid excuse.

Aspergers doesn't make people douchebags, they get that way themselves. There's a line between trolling and being an A-hole, and simple common sense stops most people from crossing that line.

The trolls who troll chris-chan (who's father died recently) don't cross this line. I looked at his LBP2 profile the other day, and there where a number of trolls, giving him messages saying things like 'sorry for your loss' and stuff like that. Trolling's supposed to poke fun at people to make them mad, not traumatise them.

So in conclusion, Aspergers isn't an excuse to be a douche and theres a difference between trolling and cyberbullying.



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19 Sep 2011, 10:52 pm

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-berkshire-14894576

Oh and guess what... He's pulled the Aspergers card. And people wonder why Aspies are getting a reputation for being nasty, sick people :(


That is because with people that have Aspergers, Higher Functioning Autism can create "Paranoia", sometimes severe enough they have to be medicated in order to control it,

Unfortunately some members here including me in this topic are the ones get like this, and reason more people find those like me with this much Higher Functioning Autism to be more threateneing that of low Functioning, much like a phyco in compared to the man that shot Gabby Giffereds in Arizona, apparently that is an example of a man who probably has the same paranoia that make people angry in here and offcially call them trolls, it also promotes a VERY BAD presonality social wise.

Because I almost fear I might get killed or brutally beaten because of my form of Autism.



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20 Sep 2011, 11:29 am

Hi, everyone, I had written on this topic, but despite my verbosity and obvious annoyance with this abuser, I think I didn't clarify my viewpoint. First, does he really have Asperger's? His lawyer says so, but was he ever tested and formally, legally diagnosed? Using a claimed neurological disorder to lighten or dismiss a client's sentence is a very well-used method by American attorneys. Secondly, and more important to all of us, I see NOTHING in his attacks that have anything to do with Asperger's behavior. I do thank Jeffrey228 for clarifying that High Functioning Autistics can become paranoid. Paranoia is fear, suspicion, anxiety..none of these families or their dead children knew (or knew of) this person, never spoke to him, never sent Internet messages to him, there was no fear that he was acting upon; he wasn't 'getting back at' anyone. He sought out grieving families and exacerbated their pain. To reiterate, this has nothing to do with Asperger's or Autistic behavior; his lawyer says he has Aspergers, which we don't know, and the media has presented him as a person with Asperger's who did this,therefore implying that he did this BECAUSE of having Asperger's. Why ever he did this, he's paying, the families are still in pain, and the public, once again, has been misinformed. And, once again, I am annoyed. Sylkatv :x



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21 Sep 2011, 7:48 pm

oceandrop wrote:
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In my opinion he should have received a lifetime ban preventing him accessing the internet ever again and if he gets bored he should tend to the graves of the deceased persons he chose to target.


Ugh. That's pretty draconian, and I doubt the relatives would appreciate the second bit.


Well, people in the UK have recently been jailed for half a year for stealing a bottle of mineral water, or some chewing gum. So I can most definitely see it heading in that direction, in the UK (where this happened).

And yes, that suggestion is very draconian... personally, I'd make the consequences for a thing of that sort to be community service, with many obligatory visits to psychologists, as well.