Facebook rape page still up: mainstream press uninterested

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Dear Femme, I Googled Facebook annd typed 'Rape' in 'Page'...there is no page titled 'Rape'...Sylkat

Well, for the people participating, their names are shown. If I was an employer, I would fire them. That or, if they are unemployed, I would not hire them. People need to make a list of names of people participating and put it on the internet and contact their employers. Most employers have an obligation to hire employees that don't take lightly rape.

It is their freedom of speech which is why I don't think we should bring it down. No one will stop them from saying what they want but what they say has consequences.

Yes, it is their freedom of speech to say what they want but they shouldn't expect for what they say to be accepted.

In which case, people will just comment anonymously. Which doesn't make the problem go away, just swipes it under the carpet.

And then people will pound them some more. The price of freedom is vigilance. And I think being a woman and being free from rape humour is a very desierable thing, unless you have a weird fetish.

Dear Sylkat I never said their was a page called Rape but their are pages talking about stopping rape with guys and some girls making rape jokes which is never funny and it is uncalled for.

What's the point of 'pounding' anonymous posters? They're still there, they just might be a bit more careful next time. Or hadn't you thought of that? Or they'll go elsewhere. Would you like to see the rape re-enactment boards now or later? Some women really get off on that stuff.

You can't kill people's thoughts and ideas. I would have thought any number of totalitarian regimes that the left is often so fond of would tell you that.



Nice attempt at twisting a sentiment.

You're not asking for freedom, you're asking for censorship. If you don't like this bile, don't seek it out. Just because you don't like something you become an advocate of censorship when you advocate its banning.



A variation of the "if you don't support excommunicating these deviants then you must be a deviant/paedophile yourself" slur. You know, I expected better from you. Typical high-handed left-wing authoritarian, tut tut.

"If I don't like it, it must be banned."

Tell you what Gedrene, go to Sickipedia or watch ten minutes of Frankie Boyle's Tramadol Nights and your head will explode. Honest.

I'm no fan of this type of humour, mainly because most of it, as well as being extremely tasteless and unfunny it's also extremely repetitive and ultimately goes nowhere. It also leaves you feeling a cock for laughing about it. Most people won't tell these sorts of jokes, but some will. You have to ignore it as best you can because the people doing it want a reaction.

Censorship happens all the time why cant they censor this Rape page on Facebook they already have a petition and some of them have been taking down just like the anti-Semite pages on Facebook people can lobby to get things censored.

That's up to Facespace (I refuse to dignify it by calling it by its proper name, thereby making me look like a child) but you can't delete this stuff from the Internet.

Rape joke-tellers are like trolls generally. You can't get rid of them - they, like Jew-haters, come back with greater force.

In China they have their internet censored some what also Facebook has taken down the holocaust never happened page and the f**k Jesus Christ page which upset my brother Joker but he didn't let it bother him but the point is rape is not a laughing madder.

Is that a system you'd like to emulate then?

All together now!

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Facebook doesn't allow people to comment anonymously. You have to have a Facebook account to join any groups or even like groups.

Allowing them to simply say these things without consequence also doesn't solve the problem. The problem being how they believe such a horrid crime is funny. Actually not doing anything might allow them to think what they are saying is acceptable as they have a group to uphold their views. That might make them likely to become bolder and make comments like that in public and the workplace. Worse, they might attempt the action itself.

As a person who took a class on network security, it is very hard to be truly anonymous on the internet.

Rape is a crime against men and women in the middle east some men will rape other men to humiliate or to show power over them remember rape isn't about sex it is about power which is why it is such a horrid crime.

Tell this to Frankie Boyle. A lot of the stuff that Scottish comic comes out with will see you having kittens. I promise you. He makes frequent jokes about not just rape, but child rape.



This is true, although if one is making those statements (or is involved in illegal activity) it would be wise to put some effort into cloaking your identity.



I have no issue with what you're saying about rape itself. And what Facebook does is up to them, really. They may or may not decide to go with public demand - it's a free, private, service so they may well tell the 'joke'-tellers to shift. However, free speech is more complicated than that. You may be able to get them taken off Facebook but not the likes of Sickipedia where rape jokes and the like thrive.

^ No problem with this in my book. You're free to say what you want, you're not free from the consequences.

With regard to proactively removing ideas, even bad ones... Well, I don't want anyone doing that to the expressions of good or bad ideas because there are probably any number of people who feel my ideas, which I feel are good ideas to express, are bad. Has anyone got an objective test of "good and bad" handy? Because it was only 70 years ago that a black woman insisting on not sitting in the back of the public bus was "universally bad."

I hope like hell that rape doesn't ever become socially acceptable, but the best way I can go about preventing it is to be a good parent to my kids and let them know that my values in this regard (among others) are meaningful and worth passing onto others. And hopefully others do the same.

Congratulations. You just discovered the word progress. Next please!


Reenactment what? Could you clarify what you mean?


I know. It's a perversion that chills my bones


I have nothing against evil thoughts or ideas, just evil words and actions.


Oh yes, how dare I kill the noble thought of rape jokes. Your crassness would shame a rattlesnake.

Your justification in the end is intellectual cowardice. They want a response, so you don't give it out of some twisted need to not fall in to some 'trap'.

You would let something fester because an arbitrary moral code tells you that sticking your head in the sand and letting evil fester is the best way of dealing with a monstrosity. As I have said, cowardice. These reasons only come up when an idiot is being arbitrary. They would respond with force to this wrong or that wrong, but not this wrong just because.

People are offended by lots of things for lots of reasons. What is, and what is not insulting is completely subjective. It's in bad taste, yes; but ultimately it's up to the Facebook staff whether or not they'll take down the page. Their company, their choice. At the end of the day there's always going to be offensive stuff on the internet.

And to the second poster: since my pet hamster drowned in a septic tank, would you not so carelessly throw the word 'piss' around? Thanks.