"Navigating Love and Autism"
TheygoMew wrote:
Liked the article. What I didn't like was this "survival of the fittest" idiot under the comments section.
"So predictable
Rural New York
How touching. Kristen and Jack might want to meet with a genetics counselor before considering having children.
Bruno Bettelheim was right after all.
The fridge mom doesn't cause Aspergers in a child but genetics makes it more likely that a child with Aspergers has a parent with Aspergers . And, two parents with Aspergers make an Aspie offspring much more likely.
Unfortunately having two Apie parents does not guarantee all offspring will be Aspies. A house filled with Aspies would be hard on a neurologically intact child. Bettelheim's description of the fridge mom is a pretty insightful description of many women with Aspergers.Jack was very lucky to have a father with the impairment because they understand each other.
Mismatches can be problematic.And to Venkat, if Aspergers becomes the norml, the species will die off. It is not a disorder that promotes survival of the species of humans because it puts a premium on individualism to the determent of social groups and community. Consider the repercussions to society of this disorder became too prevalent.
"So predictable
Rural New York
How touching. Kristen and Jack might want to meet with a genetics counselor before considering having children.
Bruno Bettelheim was right after all.
The fridge mom doesn't cause Aspergers in a child but genetics makes it more likely that a child with Aspergers has a parent with Aspergers . And, two parents with Aspergers make an Aspie offspring much more likely.
Unfortunately having two Apie parents does not guarantee all offspring will be Aspies. A house filled with Aspies would be hard on a neurologically intact child. Bettelheim's description of the fridge mom is a pretty insightful description of many women with Aspergers.Jack was very lucky to have a father with the impairment because they understand each other.
Mismatches can be problematic.And to Venkat, if Aspergers becomes the norml, the species will die off. It is not a disorder that promotes survival of the species of humans because it puts a premium on individualism to the determent of social groups and community. Consider the repercussions to society of this disorder became too prevalent.
Oh, I know! Too bad comments are disabled.
- Aspie mothers can be highly affectionate, and NT mothers can be cold: depends on the individual
- Nothing wrong with having Aspie offspring
- etc
Not to mention that the idea of seeing a genetic counselor who can only provide a fraction of the useful information already on our parenting board seems like a waste of money.
But on another note, kuddos to Jack and Kirsten for putting their story out there. I could never do that; I'm far too private; but I can see the positive effect the article is having for people.
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I don't really see what the big deal is with that article. My mom pressured me into reading it, and I'll admit it wasn't that bad, but as I told her, It was written to help NTs understand an aspie perspective. I don't need that, I am an aspie
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Lonermutant wrote:
I'm actually impressed that a real chemistry professor would accept anyone who treat chemicals that way. He should have been dragged into a burn ward in a hospital or be forced to talk to people who have lost their homes and belongings to arson. He showed that he had a barely fragmented and totally worthless knowledge of chemistry.
And I believe that most 18-year old boys with Asperger's don't even think about girls. They are too immature.
And I believe that most 18-year old boys with Asperger's don't even think about girls. They are too immature.
First off, you sound like someone who has never performed original research in your garage.
Or cast aluminium on a friend's stove because he needed a part made yesterday.
I have.
Today in fact I accidentally splashed hot 1.25 S.G Sulphuric acid on my hands. They are a little dry, it felt slippery because the outer layers of dead skin were turning in to soap and being thick enough that I would not have even noticed except that it was hot and got under my fingernails... completely harmless really, not the first time and won't be the last.
BTW, when etching circuit boards, there's no reason to wear gloves. You could probably use a little extra copper in your diet.
The hazards of chemistry are overblown because the world is becoming a police state and chemists are a threat to them, not because there's any danger. Its not like he was trying to find a less energy intensive way to extract phosphorous from the lesser known sources, (which just might solve the coming problem of a global shortage of it..)
Lonermutant wrote:
University is no place for an Aspie. I can't understand why someone who struggles socially wants to have a job and a career that includes spending half the day in meetings and the rest of the days on the phone.
If you can't warp your job to fit your inability to sit in a meeting then you should find another field.
Life is a struggle, either learn how to sit still for 2 hours or calmly tell your boss that the entire meeting is a waste of your time.
I have done that before, and survived. in the end i got tasked with managing the project.
The fact is most people need to go to a university to get a job and a career in their field, and that's the path they should go.
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GamerNerd07901 wrote:
I don't really see what the big deal is with that article. My mom pressured me into reading it, and I'll admit it wasn't that bad, but as I told her, It was written to help NTs understand an aspie perspective. I don't need that, I am an aspie
I wasn't really interested in knowing the detail of their relationship either, just a little too personal.
I have "look me in the eye" by John Elder Robison. This book looks interested enough for me to want to read it to see what the younger Robison was thinking and such.
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GamerNerd07901 wrote:
I don't really see what the big deal is with that article. My mom pressured me into reading it, and I'll admit it wasn't that bad, but as I told her, It was written to help NTs understand an aspie perspective. I don't need that, I am an aspie
Maybe she thought you could use the heads up on potential future relationship issues?
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johansen wrote:
Lonermutant wrote:
I'm actually impressed that a real chemistry professor would accept anyone who treat chemicals that way. He should have been dragged into a burn ward in a hospital or be forced to talk to people who have lost their homes and belongings to arson. He showed that he had a barely fragmented and totally worthless knowledge of chemistry.
And I believe that most 18-year old boys with Asperger's don't even think about girls. They are too immature.
And I believe that most 18-year old boys with Asperger's don't even think about girls. They are too immature.
First off, you sound like someone who has never performed original research in your garage.
Or cast aluminium on a friend's stove because he needed a part made yesterday.
I have.
Today in fact I accidentally splashed hot 1.25 S.G Sulphuric acid on my hands. They are a little dry, it felt slippery because the outer layers of dead skin were turning in to soap and being thick enough that I would not have even noticed except that it was hot and got under my fingernails... completely harmless really, not the first time and won't be the last.
BTW, when etching circuit boards, there's no reason to wear gloves. You could probably use a little extra copper in your diet.
The hazards of chemistry are overblown because the world is becoming a police state and chemists are a threat to them, not because there's any danger. Its not like he was trying to find a less energy intensive way to extract phosphorous from the lesser known sources, (which just might solve the coming problem of a global shortage of it..)
This was my thought reading about those experiments, which sounded like they took place during teen years: shouldn't/couldn't the parents have informed him of the potential legal issues before things got that far? I know parents can't know everything, and teens don't always listen, and so on and so on ... but that sort of situation should be avoidable, given that parents generally have some sense of what their kids are doing, and what their kids can and cannot do without breaking the law. A shame, really, that it ever got to the point of a court being involved.
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