Australian scientists develop genetic test to predict autism

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xyz8 is not living in America,, he's living in Australia.

Far-left liberalism isn't only found in the American media you know...

You americanized a statement that was originally intended for an Australian.

Furthermore "Liberal" here in Australia, refers to the right wing, not the left.

So in the interests of making yourself understood to the intended poster, those are things you might want to consider next time.

Why should people have to suffer raising someone who they will have to care for, for the rest of their lives?

I'm not brainwashed into believing anything. I am for abortion; people are allowed to have views different from your own, without them being brainwashed you know. What you have said is highly offensive.

Excuse me, I'm perfectly capable of living on my own, if not for this cruddy economy, I would be living on my own.

Being on the spectrum doesn't mean you can't live on your own, and a lot of Neurotypicals are in the same boat a lot of us are due to the economy (which we can thank Obama's recovery which made everything worse for that).

When someone is born not normal, then they require special care. Why should parents have to suffer through that, when they can just abort and try and get a normal kid?

Actually there is no such thing as a "normal" kid. Each child is unique.

I would chalk up the parents' suffering to lousy teachers, incompetitent school psychologists, etc. After watching all the stupid things NTs do, I'm pretty damn glad I'm not "normal."

There is a normal kid. Have aspy or autism, is not normal.

If parents don't want an aspy or autistic kid, then they should have the right to abort.

Do you really hate yourself so much that you want us to be wiped off the face of the earth, you're advocating genocide.

I'm saying, that if parents don't want aspy or autistic kids, they should have the choice to abort.

What you are advocating is genocide, plain and simple.

No it's not.

The Australian test is being developed as a postnatal test to scan for risk of autism for early intervention for therapies and treatment. There is also the potential that it could eventually be used as a prenatal test, but amniocenteses would be required, which entails risk of spontaneous miscarriage, that doctors usually will not advise unless there is a high risk pregnancy, per maternal age and/or other risk factors.

There is already a prenatal test available that measures the risk of over 150 conditions, including autism, that provides a much lower potential risk than the 70% percent in the preliminary findings of the Australian research. The test uses chromosomal microarray analysis that is more effective than previous prenatal tests used in amniocenteses, for conditions commonly tested for in high risk pregnancies.


http://sfari.org/news-and-opinion/news/2012/more-sensitive-prenatal-tests-detect-autism-linked-variants

Blood tests are being developed for genome wide scanning that will eventually result in a non-invasive prenatal test to provide the risk for hundreds of potential conditions, including autism.

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/08/28/prenatal-whole-gene-sequencing-raises-thorny-ethical-questions/

It is not likely though that insurance companies will cover the tests that may eventually be made available for those that can afford the tests and want to know the full scale of potential risks associated with a pregnancy as well as potential predictors for physical characteristics that are not considered disease or disorder.

There lies the real potential for thorny ethics questions for the potential of liberal eugenics, and autism is only the tip of the iceberg, per potential legal selective abortion choices that may eventually result from using this type of non-invasive genome wide blood test.

It doesn't appear like it will actually result in effective positive liberal eugenics, as the most effective form of liberal eugenics has been the pill since 1960 and other effective birth control methods providing any individual regardless of perceived desirable genetic traits the choice not to reproduce if they so choose or delay potential reproduction to an age where there is greater potential of having a child with a congenital anomaly or disorder.

The end result of those that face the knowledge of risk of potentially hundreds of perceived negative characteristics, provided by genome wide testing, will likely be fuller awareness of the capricious reality of reproduction, that most people are likely better off not knowing, and may convince more people with the resources and educational level to afford and seek the tests, that it is too scary and risky to take the chance of propagating one's genes.

Or by that time, a third or more of the population may not be even be interested in having sexual intercourse with real people, if Japan is any indication of the future of the sexual behavior of individuals in western developed countries, where incentives to have children are offered.

So far, immigration has provided the answer for this potential issue in the US, and will probably provide the answer in Europe too, as those that continue to be successful in their progeny related activities and successfully seek out whatever resources are necessary to continue survival will inherit the earth.

As far as classical genocide, per the earlier decades of the last century, the base fear of not being part of the "successful" progeny related effort, may have led that guy, I won't mention his name, to destroy those that had that he sensed at a base level had that advantage over him. Little did he know that almost a century later, there would be hundreds of millions of people that were no longer even interested in being part of that progeny related effort, per liberal eugenics, otherwise known as personal reproductive control.

At least per informal surveys it doesn't appear that many people on the spectrum have children or are interested in having children. It's pretty obvious that most of the parents with children on the spectrum didn't feel the same way about the having children thing.

If a person on the spectrum chooses not to have children, it's seems like they might afford the respect of that choice to others off the spectrum as well. It is a form of liberal eugenics to decide not to have children, as is the choice of selective abortion. Both forms of reproductive control lead to the same result, no possibility of a child off or on the spectrum.

Imagine a world where everyone on the spectrum that didn't want to have children were forced to adopt a child on the spectrum. Provides the issue a whole new perspective.

The human species and people on the spectrum aren't likely going away anytime soon even if half the western developed world decides against having children, regardless of what method of birth control they choose. The western developed world is a relatively small piece of the big global pie.

I cannot believe you just said that...either way, any sort of child would need to be cared for regardless of whether they have autism/asperger's or not- it's what parents do.

I just want to pose a question to you...

"Would you say the same thing if it were for example, an asthmatic or diabetic child?...or even dyslexia?"- After all, all these children require somewhat more care and attention from their parents than others without the conditions etc.; diabetic and asthmatic sufferers require regular medication, and dyslexics would likely need more time and possibly more money spent on tuition etc.

...I personally believe the parents of children that require extra care and attention, become better parents because of that. However, you could argue that my opinion doesn't matter, though that would be pointless as I don't care what you think of it- or what anyone else does for that matter.

Yes, both are medically described diagnoses classified as neurological disorders and legally defined disorders that virtually always inherently limit brain function. It is the human neurology underlying both neurological disorders, that is not well understood.

The underlying neurological causes of some forms of epilepsy, another neurological disorder, are not understood either in some individuals, but the medically described and defined behavioral impairments provide evidence of the neurological disorder, as do the behavioral impairments associated with Autism and Aspergers.