Tollorin
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30 Oct 2012, 11:41 am
I do think climate change is legit, and from what the weather guys say, warmer climate = warmer ocean water = more powerful hurricanes. That's not to say that every storm that happens from now on will be massive, it just means that the with a shift to warmer weather and warmer ocean temperatures which will tend to allow for larger, more powerful storms - i.e. the bell curve will shift.
Climate change, at it's theoretical worst, can only make hurricanes reach Nova Scotia, but still only as a category 1. This storm's is not without precedent. It would have been roughly equivalent to past superstorms if it wasn't for a full moon and the storm making landfall at the peak of high tide. The hurricane without the presence of the other 2 storm systems would have been fairly routine.
Global warming is now called climate change due to weak, indefensible evidence. They might as well try to stop continental drift and reverse the Earth's crust back unto the Shape of Pangea.
There is VERY strong evidences that earth is warming. http://earthsky.org/earth/2012-arctic-sea-ice-extent-lowest-ever-recorded
With the amount of damages caused to New York from a category 1 storm, we can wonder if New York will survive to 21th century.
30 Oct 2012, 12:25 pm
I do think climate change is legit, and from what the weather guys say, warmer climate = warmer ocean water = more powerful hurricanes. That's not to say that every storm that happens from now on will be massive, it just means that the with a shift to warmer weather and warmer ocean temperatures which will tend to allow for larger, more powerful storms - i.e. the bell curve will shift.
Climate change, at it's theoretical worst, can only make hurricanes reach Nova Scotia, but still only as a category 1. This storm's is not without precedent. It would have been roughly equivalent to past superstorms if it wasn't for a full moon and the storm making landfall at the peak of high tide. The hurricane without the presence of the other 2 storm systems would have been fairly routine.
Global warming is now called climate change due to weak, indefensible evidence. They might as well try to stop continental drift and reverse the Earth's crust back unto the Shape of Pangea.
I think you miss the point - no one hurricane, even if there were a record hurricane, is vindication of climate change. Its impossible to say if any given hurricane would have happened, or have been as large/strong as it was, with or without climate change. But climate change will tend to make storms larger - what might have been a tropical storm in the past might become a cat 1, or a weak cat 3 might become a stronger cat 3. Bottom line is, scientists tell us that warmer air and warmer ocean temperatures tend to strengthen hurricanes, so warmer air and warmer ocean temperatures is not a good thing when it comes to hurricanes.
lostonearth35
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30 Oct 2012, 9:31 pm
I think anyone who believes the climate and the environment isn't going to the proverbial dogs is living in a dream world and needs to seriously wake up. The world is ending, and we will all die horribly very soon. And if there is a heaven I know I won't be going there for sure because I am one of the most evil people in the world even though I've never killed anyone or started a war. It's not just the absence of actually doing bad things that makes you a bad person, just fantasizing about doing bad things like hurting someone has earned me a special place in hell.
30 Oct 2012, 9:44 pm
30 Oct 2012, 10:31 pm
