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24 Dec 2006, 2:13 am

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that's horrible, but was the autistic teen actually high on drugs?
“He’s also been diagnosed with bipolar, ADHD and childhood degenerative disease,” said Overstreet-Smith. “You shout at him, he closes down. He doesn’t understand verbal commands.”

Got that from the first news link. The cumulative effects could easily look like any sort of drug state, but odds are the only thing he was on, if anything, were normalizing meds.


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24 Dec 2006, 3:03 am

That really sucks... at least they didn't kill him.



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24 Dec 2006, 10:18 am

What the? You should see me after one of my sigholdaccountlostirific obession sessions. People actually ask me what I've been on.


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24 Dec 2006, 1:29 pm

alex wrote:
that's horrible, but was the autistic teen actually high on drugs?


No! His autistic symptoms made it look like he was high.

Thank You isla for the links.



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24 Dec 2006, 3:15 pm

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This is just the sort of thing my wife worries about concerning both myself and our son. It is a place were training is sorely needed but most law enforcement officials I have met think ASD is just an excuse :evil:


That is because most of our police bureaus are corrupt & would rather murder first then ask questions later.



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24 Dec 2006, 3:17 pm

Space wrote:
That really sucks... at least they didn't kill him.


Like I said, kill first, ask questions later.
Police bureaus are being more corrupt as I type.



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24 Dec 2006, 3:20 pm

Have a look at the topic below us. :lol:/ :o city.


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24 Dec 2006, 3:33 pm

That's just sick. Those cops need to be fired and put in the slammer.


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27 Dec 2006, 3:16 pm

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That's just sick. Those cops need to be fired and put in the slammer.


Most cops in Portland believe ASDs are simply a scientific excuse for illegal behavior.
I am not a cop but in most cases here, the cops get off the damn hook real easy.
I believe that Chief Sizer pays the juries hush money in order to keep her employees out of prison.



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29 Dec 2006, 3:20 am

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ghostgurl wrote:
That's just sick. Those cops need to be fired and put in the slammer.


Most cops in Portland believe ASDs are simply a scientific excuse for illegal behavior.
I am not a cop but in most cases here, the cops get off the damn hook real easy.
I believe that Chief Sizer pays the juries hush money in order to keep her employees out of prison.


Eek! I only live 2 hours south of you (in Eugene). I hope that corruption doesn't leak down here...



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03 Jan 2007, 4:46 pm

I think it is horrible this guy was shot. I had a neighbor that was in the police and he used to tell us that it was a terrible job, although he loved his job. He hated having to figure out who was a guy with a gun that just shot a store owner versus a schitzoprenic who was hearing voices versus a troubled 14 year old with a chip on his shoulder that was trying to be a MAN.

I'm hoping that technology would help this situation. That all cops have a "reader" and if someone is not a criminal, but thinks differently...it would show up on their screen. Then they would know it was not a criminal that might harm THEM. Still, this will never fly, IMO, because people would be concerned with privacy issues.



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03 Jan 2007, 7:39 pm

Well, no wonder why they attacked him. He was african-american AND autistic.
Both are a magnet for hate-crime.

Police aren't better around here. When child care were to hospitalize me they brought three cops who beat me up even though I didn't attack them. The fact that I didn't want to follow and tried to outrun them was enough of a reason for them to hit me.

The paradox about police violence is that you cannot stop it even if you are an eye-witness. They will only claim that "the suspect made resistance or acted offensive" or something even more f****d up.

Cops are scum



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11 Jan 2007, 8:21 am

In situations like this, I can't help but point out: How are police supposed to determine that someone is autistic/has special needs, while keeping a safe distance? Do you know if it was 2 police officers who came across him or just the 1? Unlike most conditions, autism simply does not have 1 big sign shouting to passerbys "I am autistic!". Most people you meet wouldn't be able to tell, even though they might suspect something is up, I'm sure most of you would just present a little bit odd. And yet we expect the police to diagnose people on the fly? Should they assume every odd-presenting person is autistic, just so a couple of mistakes don't happen and unarmed people don't get tasered? They've got themselves to worry about also. In hindsight, it's easy to say "He was unarmed, he was harmless", but it is very different in-the-moment. We need to lower our expectations of what police should do. They're not perfect, they're human, and they do make mistakes. Oh my god, they're not perfect? Well, then they MUST be evil! Right?


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02 Apr 2007, 2:26 pm

danlo wrote:
In situations like this, I can't help but point out: How are police supposed to determine that someone is autistic/has special needs, while keeping a safe distance? Do you know if it was 2 police officers who came across him or just the 1? Unlike most conditions, autism simply does not have 1 big sign shouting to passerbys "I am autistic!". Most people you meet wouldn't be able to tell, even though they might suspect something is up, I'm sure most of you would just present a little bit odd. And yet we expect the police to diagnose people on the fly? Should they assume every odd-presenting person is autistic, just so a couple of mistakes don't happen and unarmed people don't get tasered? They've got themselves to worry about also. In hindsight, it's easy to say "He was unarmed, he was harmless", but it is very different in-the-moment. We need to lower our expectations of what police should do. They're not perfect, they're human, and they do make mistakes. Oh my god, they're not perfect? Well, then they MUST be evil! Right?

No, not 'diagnosing on the fly'. But you don't need to aim for anything vital/major to stop someone getting away. A few bullets to the leg should do it.


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02 Apr 2007, 3:25 pm

The police where I am are too stupid to operate a taser. It's a miricle they can even drive.



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02 Apr 2007, 4:53 pm

God I hate the police, a bunch of incompetent slobs.