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16 Jan 2013, 8:21 am

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Public employees are some of the most incompetent lazy workers there are.


Typical hyperbole uttered by opinionated, ignorant people who know nothing about the subjects on which they prattle on.

I note, of course, that you have indulged in the coward's favourite rhetorical device--weasel words. But you intention to cast aspersions on public servants is no less clear for that. If you are going to cast aspersion on an entire class of people, perhaps you might take the time to support your claims with some evidence.


Perhaps they are different in Canada however based on my experiences and from people I know I find what I say to be accurate. Both of my parents were public employees, I've dealt with public employees extensively on a personal level(not including my parents). Ask a public worker on their opinion on other public workers without relation to their own job or compensation and you'd probably come away with a similar answer. I suppose I could get into specific grievances but I'm not sure what the point of that is. Assuming you have had exposure to both, what is your impression of public workers politics aside?


So its a fact that public employees are the most incompetent lazy workers there are because you and some people you know think that? I am rather curious as to what factual evidence there is to back this up, like some studies or something. I am sure some of them are lazy, some corporate workers are lazy and incompetent to.


Indeed. Such a hasty generalization only serves and an indicator that the people who make such comments possess a high degree of prejudice based on what they hear from uninformed individuals. Calling public servants "lazy and incompetent" means that they view the following groups as such:
Soldiers, police officers, road crews, response units (fire fighters, medics, hazmat teams, SWAT teams, the Red Cross, etc.) and of course teachers. Last time I checked, these people have to go through a significant amount of training and certification in order to keep and maintain their career status.



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16 Jan 2013, 12:49 pm

Jacoby wrote:
Perhaps they are different in Canada however based on my experiences and from people I know I find what I say to be accurate. Both of my parents were public employees, I've dealt with public employees extensively on a personal level(not including my parents). Ask a public worker on their opinion on other public workers without relation to their own job or compensation and you'd probably come away with a similar answer. I suppose I could get into specific grievances but I'm not sure what the point of that is. Assuming you have had exposure to both, what is your impression of public workers politics aside?


I will start by putting my biases on the table: I am a public servant, working at a management/professional level. I work with public servants at all levels from clerical to senior management. I work for a Minister with whose politics I disagree fervently. But I am diligent in providing my Minister with non-partisan advice, and in carrying out my Minister's policy. And I am not atypical of public servants.

I believe that I work for one of the most highly respected public services in the world. When I was in the foreign service, I had the opportunity to work with public servants from Australia, Bermuda, Britain, Hongkong, Macau, New Zealand and the USA. All were, without exception, dedicated, hardworking, intelligent people doing challenging work in difficult circumstances. The level of complexity, and the level of responsibility that are discharged by public servants are--by and large--significantly higher than workers at similar levels in the private sector.

Are there incompetent public servants? A few, but it's pretty difficult for an incompetent person to get hired into an indeterminate position in the Canadian Public Service. The Public Service is an employer of choice because of its good working conditions and solid pension and benefits. Incompetent people don't compete well against motivated, competent people. Are there lazy public servants? Sure. There are lazy people everywhere. But to suggest that as a class public servants are more incompetent or more lazy than workers elsewhere, is an unsubstantiated distortion.


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23 Jan 2013, 10:21 pm

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At first glance it does seem proposterous: like a veteranarian needing accomidation for an animal phobia.

But she does teach highschool kids and not small kids, and her allegation do seem fair- that one might suspect that the school system might be retaliating against her -by ignoring her "condition" that they were previously accomadating.

But yeah- Ive never heard of 'pedophobia' before either. Too bad she isnt a man- so she could join the Catholic priesthood - where they have too much of the opposite of pedophobia!



Back on topic, I don't buy her phobia. She taught 14-18 year olds in high school but 11-14 somehow were so radically different? It's not as if she was put into a kindergarten class. What trigger this fear, appearance? Was she afraid of undeveloped high schoolers, what about mature middle schoolers? How does she deal with going to the store or the park, does she have any family?

I can understand not liking the change but her claim of being so disabled that she couldn't do the work I find extremely suspect.


It does sound like poppycock. And how could anyone be "afraid of children" anyway?

But then again- one hears of stranger things.

Both Napoleon, and Musselini were terrified of kitty cats!

Ofcourse ON THE HAND- niether Napoleon nor Mussilini let their fear of kitty cats get in the way of their ambitions in life much!

Not sure what to think about this.

But it would make a premise for an episode of "the practice", or "the good wife"- ill say that much.



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27 Jan 2013, 2:32 pm

It's not the teacher's fear and/or hatred of children I find disturbing (in fact I can understand it because little kids in classrooms are highly skilled at spreading disease and suddenly losing control of any bodily function without warning), it was the list of pictures of schoolwork papers under the article that were racist and asked questions about slaves or were about morbid, kid-unfriendly things like bloodsucking aliens. Only in the US of A. :roll:



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27 Jan 2013, 4:41 pm

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Back on topic, I don't buy her phobia. She taught 14-18 year olds in high school but 11-14 somehow were so radically different? It's not as if she was put into a kindergarten class. What trigger this fear, appearance? Was she afraid of undeveloped high schoolers, what about mature middle schoolers? How does she deal with going to the store or the park, does she have any family?


11-14-year-olds are in a different developmental stage to 14-18 year olds. If she wasn't scared of the younger kids in the older group that she was teaching previously, it was probably the younger ones- the 11 and 12 year olds- that set off her fear.
You seem like you're trying to disprove her phobia by saying it's not logical. Phobias are by definition irrational.
She could go to the store during school hours when she'd be less likely to run into children. Not everyone has a family.
If she came across a child, I guess she did what anyone with a fear does: felt scared and tried to avoid it. Supermarkets are actually big enough that you can avoid being cornered by marauding children, you realise.


I agree, 11-14 year olds are quite different from 14-18 year olds. I have got one child in each age group right now and I spend time at their schools.


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