Shooter Targets TSA At Los Angeles International Airport

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04 Nov 2013, 5:47 pm

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As for this shooting being fishy: The witness testimonies for one are what make me question it. I don't know if you have seen the people that were questioned, but one is a man named Nick Pugh. He was interviewed after the shooting and recounted his story about dropping to the floor and hearing shots. Turn back the clock to 12 years ago and watch people who witnessed 9/11 being interviewed and you can find that this man is a crisis actor. In an interview after the attacks on 9/11 this same man is being interviewed, but his name is Mark Walsh this time. Another witness to the LAX shooting said that Paul Ciancia was dressed head to toe in a TSA agent uniform and firing on TSA agents. We also, have to consider the fact that there are articles that claim that he was dressed in fatigues. Also, it was reported that he was shot several times in the chest, yet in the picture of "his" body, there are no wounds or even bullet holes in his shirt only a disfigured face because that is where he was shot.


I have not looked into this story at all, so feel free to ignore this post.

People are notoriously bad witnesses. The average brain can only process around 30 tiny bits of information per second (out of everything you see, hear, smell, feel, think, taste, etc). The brain compensates for the limited information by taking the few bits (out of the millions of bits that you could process) and then tries to help you out by filling in the rest with crap already stored in your brain. It is also (a small) part of the reason that memory can be so subjective.


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04 Nov 2013, 6:20 pm

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There are a lot of holes in this story and a lot of fishy stuff. That's all I will say.


Love your avatar - I'm a big Breaking Bad fan.
But this smells fishy? How so?


Thanks and yeah I am a huge Breaking Bad fan too, what I like to call a "blue meth head" hahah! As for this shooting being fishy: The witness testimonies for one are what make me question it. I don't know if you have seen the people that were questioned, but one is a man named Nick Pugh. He was interviewed after the shooting and recounted his story about dropping to the floor and hearing shots. Turn back the clock to 12 years ago and watch people who witnessed 9/11 being interviewed and you can find that this man is a crisis actor. In an interview after the attacks on 9/11 this same man is being interviewed, but his name is Mark Walsh this time. Another witness to the LAX shooting said that Paul Ciancia was dressed head to toe in a TSA agent uniform and firing on TSA agents. We also, have to consider the fact that there are articles that claim that he was dressed in fatigues. Also, it was reported that he was shot several times in the chest, yet in the picture of "his" body, there are no wounds or even bullet holes in his shirt only a disfigured face because that is where he was shot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIKdmbAWYVU
Nick Pugh AKA Mark Walsh AKA Who Knows?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BC7dzsPBMY
Witness that said Paul was in TSA uniform

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/11 ... ing-others
Article that says he was shot primarily in the chest

http://news.yahoo.com/shooting-reported ... 46507.html
Article mentioning that he was in fatigues


At the moment, I'm not sure if there's really a shooter on the grassy knoll in this case. I think sonofghandi is right.
And just because this Pugh guy was at the scene of two different tragedies doesn't necessarily mean something sinister is up. Even that prince of conspiracy theorists, Jim Garrison had conceded: "There is such a thing as coincidence."


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04 Nov 2013, 6:22 pm

sonofghandi wrote:
I have not looked into this story at all, so feel free to ignore this post.

People are notoriously bad witnesses. The average brain can only process around 30 tiny bits of information per second (out of everything you see, hear, smell, feel, think, taste, etc). The brain compensates for the limited information by taking the few bits (out of the millions of bits that you could process) and then tries to help you out by filling in the rest with crap already stored in your brain. It is also (a small) part of the reason that memory can be so subjective.


While it may be true that people can be notorious for being unreliable witnesses, I don't think in this case these are unreliable witnesses. Besides, Nick Pugh who was a witness to the shooting just happens to also be a witness to 9/11, except his name was Mark Walsh then? Also, the same man with the Cowboys hat and sunglasses is interviewed twice and gives the same testimony again. He saw a man firing on TSA, the man was built, like he was wearing body armor. He also saw Ciancia carrying a pump shotty and a handgun when the official story was that he was packing an AR-15. So why in the picture is "Paul" wearing civilian clothing?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osi0I9q0WmY
Second interview with the Cowboys fan



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04 Nov 2013, 6:43 pm

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At the moment, I'm not sure if there's really a shooter on the grassy knoll in this case. I think sonofghandi is right.
And just because this Pugh guy was at the scene of two different tragedies doesn't necessarily mean something sinister is up. Even that prince of conspiracy theorists, Jim Garrison had conceded: "There is such a thing as coincidence."


Well if it is a coincidence then that is a weird one. A very weird one. I mean what did he have his first and last name changed? It's almost as weird as the woman who witnessed the Newtown shooting and Boston Bombing and was interviewed on them. What are the odds? I believe the universe is random, but this... this is bizzare. I respect yours and sonofghandi's opinion though.



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04 Nov 2013, 6:53 pm

TheOneWhoKnocks wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
At the moment, I'm not sure if there's really a shooter on the grassy knoll in this case. I think sonofghandi is right.
And just because this Pugh guy was at the scene of two different tragedies doesn't necessarily mean something sinister is up. Even that prince of conspiracy theorists, Jim Garrison had conceded: "There is such a thing as coincidence."


Well if it is a coincidence then that is a weird one. A very weird one. I mean what did he have his first and last name changed? It's almost as weird as the woman who witnessed the Newtown shooting and Boston Bombing and was interviewed on them. What are the odds? I believe the universe is random, but this... this is bizzare. I respect yours and sonofghandi's opinion though.


I'm not saying what is or isn't in this case, just saying to be wary of eyewitness accounts in general.


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04 Nov 2013, 8:58 pm

TheOneWhoKnocks wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
At the moment, I'm not sure if there's really a shooter on the grassy knoll in this case. I think sonofghandi is right.
And just because this Pugh guy was at the scene of two different tragedies doesn't necessarily mean something sinister is up. Even that prince of conspiracy theorists, Jim Garrison had conceded: "There is such a thing as coincidence."


Well if it is a coincidence then that is a weird one. A very weird one. I mean what did he have his first and last name changed? It's almost as weird as the woman who witnessed the Newtown shooting and Boston Bombing and was interviewed on them. What are the odds? I believe the universe is random, but this... this is bizzare. I respect yours and sonofghandi's opinion though.


Thank you. 8)


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