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18 Feb 2015, 3:14 pm

they have chocolate beer, too :drunken:



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18 Feb 2015, 3:50 pm

First time Ive ever even heard of Winamp!

So WTF is/was it?

Sumpin' like Rhapsody (does that still exist?), or like I Tunes?



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18 Feb 2015, 3:52 pm

it was an ancestor of all media players for PC.



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18 Feb 2015, 4:10 pm

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First time Ive ever even heard of Winamp!

So WTF is/was it?

Sumpin' like Rhapsody (does that still exist?), or like I Tunes?


It's just a program to play mp3 files, back then iTunes didn't exist yet, and I don't think there was any program in Windows by default that could play mp3 files. This is what it looked like:

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18 Feb 2015, 4:42 pm

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We are saved by the Belgians 8)



:evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: SABAM :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:



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18 Feb 2015, 4:48 pm

Is Sabam some Flemish word I've never heard of?



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18 Feb 2015, 4:57 pm

auntblabby wrote:
^^^
hey, they're good cats :thumleft:


Not in my books when it comes to music rights
The vid is in Dutch, sorry no translation
The programme was investigating wether SABAM would charge royalties for non existing bands


This SABAM free concert is in English though


SABAM is only in it for the money. They couldn't care less about music :cry:



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18 Feb 2015, 5:07 pm

^^^
wouldn't surprise me if they were like MCA in every respect.



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18 Feb 2015, 5:24 pm

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SABAM is one of the Belgian associations of authors, composers and publishers. The bilingual acronym stands for "Société d'Auteurs Belge – Belgische Auteurs Maatschappij". Their headquarters is located at 75–77 rue d'Arlon in Brussels.

SABAM was founded in 1922 at the instigation of the composer Emiel Hullebroeck (nl) under the name NAVEA. In 1945 it changed to its current name. The SABAM a Civil Co-operative Society (CVBA) with Belgian authors, composers and publishers as members. They represent the interests of its members in the field of intellectual property rights and collect all the royalties due to its members in Belgium, and sister organizations in other countries (such as Buma/Stemra in the Netherlands), and then distributes these rights to the copyright holders.

Unlike Buma/Stemra, which is limited to music copyright, SABAM is active in all disciplines where copyrights are involved. The members of SABAM are not only composers, poets and musicians text, but also writers, poets, artists, publishers, visual artists, architects, designers, choreographers, photographers, film and television directors, etc.

SABAM also monitors the Internet to check the illegal supply of art. In 2004 SABAM filed a complaint against ISP Tiscali because of the illegal distribution of music over the Internet. A restaurant owner from Brussels was fined because he had a picture of the Atomium on his website.

In October 2007, the SABAM was investigated by a Brussels court on suspicion of falsifying financial statements, the abuse of the confidence of its members and the laundering of misappropriated funds. The investigation, which was started by a complaint by the Walloon composer Philippe Delhaye, is ongoing.

In August 2009 Google removed several music videos for Belgian artists from its video web site YouTube because of complaints made by SABAM.

Criticism[edit]

SABAM has received a lot of criticism from festival organisations for claiming money they don't deserve, and having very unclear conditions, from artists for late payments (SABAM had a debt of 200 million EUR towards artists in 2010),[1] and from many other people for demanding money in the strangest places, s.a. libraries for reading stories to toddlers[2][3][4] or playing music in a taxi[5]

SABAM has been criticised publicly in newspapers and TV shows.

For example, in 2011, one of the episodes of the TV show Basta was dedicated to SABAM. As one of the actions, the people from comedy group Neveneffecten, makers of the show, organised a concert with imaginary artists, and sent the playlist to SABAM. SABAM charged as if all imaginary artists would be a member of their organisation. SABAM however refunded the money after the episode was shown on the national television.[6] Other ridicule actions included organising a party on less than 1 m² (since the fees depended on the area of the party, and started only from 1 m²), or calling to SABAM to ask if they had to pay SABAM because their phone rang on a public place with a protected tune.

SABAM has also been ridiculed in other shows. In the 2014 conference of Michael Van Peel, Van Peel referred to the videos posted by ISIL, and concluded it was sad the videos didn't have background music. "Then we could have sent our terrorist organisation: SABAM."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SABAM



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18 Feb 2015, 5:34 pm

they certainly sound like the king of all bloodsuckers to me.



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18 Feb 2015, 6:38 pm

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They have a funny accent but they are good people :twisted:
And they may have invented fries.


Anyway, you're forgetting the sax :P
Considering the thread a bit more relevant than crisps or funny accents I suppose
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolphe_Sax



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18 Feb 2015, 6:44 pm

^^^
I heard adolphe sax's original prototype bass sax, and despite leaky pads sounded GORGEOUS, easily besting any modern specimen in terms of overall fullness/roundness of tone.



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20 Feb 2015, 12:15 am

God bless you Belgium!

so ... where can we go to DL winamp now??


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20 Feb 2015, 2:52 pm

^ Not on their official site, yet. You can find their software on other sites, however.


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21 Feb 2015, 12:10 am

Any of you remember this MP3 player. it's called WinPlay3

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This was the first one that came out almost 2 years before Winamp did.



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21 Feb 2015, 12:22 am

LupaLuna wrote:
Any of you remember this MP3 player. it's called WinPlay3

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This was the first one that came out almost 2 years before Winamp did.


I remember installing that on a 486 box about 10 years ago. Good times. :D