Partial report on Sandy Hook shooting released

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Could this be synesthesia? They don't mention it by name but it sounds similar. Both synesthesia and autism have to do with the genes on chromosome 2. It's also that chromosome that is fused together in humans, but is still seperate in chimps and other great apes.

This kind of scapegoating has been common practice for every major massacre that has happened in this country. I think the most outrageous case was with the 2007 Virginia Tech Massacre. I saw most of those reports and guess what the media put the most emphasis on?

That the shooter was Korean.

But hey when the shooter(s) kill themselves, the public needs something to lash at. That's why every minor thing in connection to these men are often scapegoated regardless of its relevancy. Things like this make me glad I'm was born autistic. I hate to think that this is really how the majority of the non-autistic mindset really think.

Autism is neurological and not 'mental health'. Again they usually emphasize whatever someone's difference is whether they're a person of color, immigrant, etc. I think one of these guys converted to Buddhism and that was emphasized, same with military experience and whatnot.

Neurodiverse people have more of a need for self defense through the first amendment than do neurotypicals. A person with schizophrenia, schizoaffective, bipolar, and other things classed as "severe mental illness" needs more access to concealed carry and self defense because they are more likely to be victims of violent crime, and have a lower risk of committing violent crime than NTs.

That reminds me about how the NRA partnered with the KKK, after the slaves were freed, to prevent blacks from obtaining guns. They kind of had a good reason to fear blacks though, because they had given the blacks a good reason to hate them. That's the same as the reason why they want to prevent schizophrenic, schizoaffective, and bipolar people from obtaining guns. They realize how much of an ass they've been to those people, and are afraid they're going to be targeted because of it. They also don't want to stop being an ass to them, because oppressing them makes them feel powerful and superior. Their goal is too assert their authority over as many people as possible, who are more vulnerable than themselves, by trampling their rights. It's an important part of how social hierarchy works.

I have been insulted but I am am still here if maybe somewhat damaged. If I had been killed I would not be here. 20 children are not here, they did not get a chance to be an ogre or a saint so whatever good may have come out of this is overwhelmed by the bad.

The loss of the lives of 20 kids does not compare to the damage done to the millions of lives of Autistics because of this. You could say that the tragedy caused this damage, but the most direct cause of it is the people oppressing us, and if those people weren't oppressing us, they'd be oppressing some other group. No more hatred was created because of this tragedy, some hatred that already existed was just redirected towards us. People only have so much hatred to direct at different groups, and we're absorbing some of it. Whether you like it or not, because of this tragedy, we are now all heroes for some other group, that would have had to face more discrimination, if it wasn't for this tragedy. I don't like the way that we are discriminated against, but I'm proud to bear the cross of people's ignorance so that someone else doesn't have to. The greater problem was never the people who commit these crimes, but the people who use them as an excuse to worsen the lives of others. They've caused far more damage than murderers, and a lot of the murders wouldn't have happened in the first place, if it wasn't for these people. They're not really any better than the murderers they passionately hate.

I'm sorry, but those twenty kids are dead, while those millions of us Aspies are not, so we're not worse off than them or their grieving families. And seriously, we're hardly being oppressed just because some ignoramus reporter or TV personality gets the truth about Asperger's wrong over this. No one is currently lynching us, or denying us the right to live or work where we please in any greater degree than had been the case prior to this. I'm not saying it's easy having Asperger's, or that the rest of the world has a proper understanding of us, but blacks, gays, and others have had it a lot worse in their time. And lest it be forgot, one of Adam Lanza's victims had been an autistic child who had died in the arms of his teacher who had also been shot - that maniac was hardly a respecter of his fellow autistic's rights.

That kind of confirms my point about the people insulting Autistics being a**holes. They would have wanted to lynch the same autistic child that Lanza killed, had he not died in this tragedy, just because he's on he spectrum. How does that make them any better than Lanza, if their intentions are the same?

So the dead kids, who Lanza had presumably not even met, ever, were somehow oppressing him? What a stupid, herd-mentality argument. It is precisely because of this primitive tribal thinking (us vs. them, lumping everyone into groups regardless of individual actions or characteristics, whether something is right or wrong depends on which side is doing it only, etc) that AS and other minorities are oppressed. I can understand, even support in moderation, violence against bullies, but this lashing against everyone who is "them" actually makes Lanza just like the people oppressing others for not being NT (or for being any kind of "other") - worse, because most don't go as far as murder.

I am absolutely aware that there have been butt wipes who have stated stupidly offensive things on the internet after Sandy Hook, such as that Aspies should be put into concentration camps and gassed. But the fact remains, these represent very few people. So far, I have yet to see any backlash against us.

I wasn't talking about the oppression of Lanza before the fact, I was talking about the oppression of people on the spectrum after the fact, and how the reactions of people to the tragedy are worse than the tragedy itself. This one-day tragedy is probably going to result in decades of suffering for a large amount of people on the spectrum. The bigots could end up ruining my life, and I just don't know it yet.

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I would agree with you if there was evidence that autistics were being physically threatened or attacked, or having their rights denied them because of this. But I just don't see that happening.

Have these bigots murdered 20+ kids (autistic or otherwise) in response to what Lanza did?

The only reason they don't do it is because they're afraid of going to prison or getting the death penalty. If the law enforcement suddenly disappeared, they'd try to kill every last Autistic, including babies and children. If the only reason they don't do it is fear of being punished, then that doesn't mean that they're better people than Lanza, that just means that they're more cowardly than him.

Despite having been jerked around time after time by the NT world, I like to think most - if not all - of my neighbors are decent people from whom I have nothing to fear.

I like to think so too. I'm pretty happy to be living in Massachusetts. The federal news networks trying to impose their bigoted propaganda on my region concerns me though. The U.S. is a threat to the New English values of tolerance, equality, and respect for others. It's hard not be paranoid with that monster, Washington D.C., having control over my region. Maybe I shouldn't worry so much, New England has always proven to stay true to its values. The feds have never been able to break the spirit of New England, no matter how much they've tried. Perhaps I should have more faith in my region.

I grow tired of hearing about American society. I'd probably feel better if I just ignored the presence of the rest of the U.S. and focused on my own region, but that's pretty difficult to do with all of the media that's available. I probably wouldn't be angry as often, if I only paid attention to local news. I'm pretty happy with the way things are going around here, despite that there have been two tragedies over the past few years. At least they didn't bring out the worst in people. Maybe the first step to avoid hearing about these things is to leave Wrongplanet. I should probably also stop watching the news and reading national newspapers. I have a tendency to want to know what's going on in the world, but I guess I'll just try to stop caring. I'd be better off without their negativity.