U.S. military to return to pre-WW2 size

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25 Feb 2014, 8:13 pm

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And it could be argued that the size of our pre-WWII military is one of the things that enabled WWII to happen.


I was under the impression that the Treaty of Versailles, Hitler coming to power and subsequently invading Poland enable WWII to happen....

hitler invaded poland to get the citys back that were stolen from germany after ww1. the germans in those citys were begging for liberation
both ww1 and ww2 were started by the rothschild family for massive profits since they loaned all sides massive amounts of money


There was more than one reasons Hitler invaded Poland and to "liberate" Danzig was one of them. WWI was triggered by the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand and his old lady while visiting Bosnia. It was bound to happen but that's what initially what got the ball rolling. I seriously doubt either war was started by or on behalf of the Rothschilds.


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25 Feb 2014, 10:02 pm

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And it could be argued that the size of our pre-WWII military is one of the things that enabled WWII to happen.


I was under the impression that the Treaty of Versailles, Hitler coming to power and subsequently invading Poland enable WWII to happen....

hitler invaded poland to get the citys back that were stolen from germany after ww1. the germans in those citys were begging for liberation
both ww1 and ww2 were started by the rothschild family for massive profits since they loaned all sides massive amounts of money


There was more than one reasons Hitler invaded Poland and to "liberate" Danzig was one of them. WWI was triggered by the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand and his old lady while visiting Bosnia. It was bound to happen but that's what initially what got the ball rolling. I seriously doubt either war was started by or on behalf of the Rothschilds.

they used their agents to set up the alliances that caused everything, at that point they have had started wars for over a hundred years they had gotten pretty good at it



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26 Feb 2014, 9:55 am

Being part of the "Axis of Evil" in the 1940's does a lot to enable a second World War to happen.



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26 Feb 2014, 12:20 pm

How soon to Pearl Harbor II?

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26 Feb 2014, 1:26 pm

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The rest of the world has more advanced weapons than they did in the 30's, too. With spending cuts it's just a matter of time before our weapons systems become dated.


This is true, and the only conventional military that can now pose a serious threat to us is China. If we don't keep R&D up then they will assume the dominant role as 'Global Enforcer'. --I see both China and India becoming more militarily proficient in the next few years. --The only real differance is from a tactical perspective. The last wars that those two countries fought (against each other, actually) was in the late 60's early '70's.

As far as battle proven militaries are concerned, The US Army and the the UK have more combat seasoning.

That being said, since we're only talking about ground forces, the only two countries that have actual 'Blue Water' Navies are the US and the UK. --China is a regional power as far as Navies are concerned, much like Japan when we got into it with them in the 1940's.


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27 Feb 2014, 8:09 am

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How soon to Pearl Harbor II?

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That depends, do you think the Japanese would try it again knowing how everything turned out for them in the end?



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01 Mar 2014, 9:16 pm

Bring back the draft. It has never been the size that concerns me. I want to know that someone in there doesn't want to be and won't do, "I was only following orders", which is the real reason the draft is gone. We were in open revolt and they knew it, (the news didn't carry that stuff) didn't mean we wouldn't and didn't do what they wanted, in the end, but they sure as hell were feeling uncomfortable.

You can define professional army (combined forces) any ol way you like, but I still think an all pro army is a bad idea.


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01 Mar 2014, 9:56 pm

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I once heard someone say that the amount of money the US government spends on its military is proportionately about equivalent to what most countries spend on healthcare. I can sort of see this being the case, considering how poor the US healthcare system is and how advanced their military is, but could anyone clarify if this in fact true?


When you're talking about proportionally, we only spend 4.4% of our GDP on defense, so we're actually 10th in the world in terms of % expenditure compared to our total GDP. So nine other countries spend a larger slice of their economic pie on their militaries.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_co ... penditures

Go to the "SIPRI military expenditure database" section of the page and sort the list by % of GDP.

Military spending by % of GDP on a map: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... P_2008.png



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01 Mar 2014, 10:45 pm

size? why size? Didn't you hear, it's how you use it. :twisted:


Someone, and I know you're out there, ratios. populaton has gone up. how is it proportaional to the WW2 , what ever, to the now? we might be more proportainal then they are saying. Take nothing for granted, when it comes to.......... "there are lies, damn lies and statistics". I think a guy said that once. I know who, find his name and you get a gold star on your peanut butter samich!


Hint... He also said, something to the effect, when talking about his politacal rivalries... I can now understand how the ancient Egyptians could worship bugs.


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01 Mar 2014, 11:20 pm

Benjamin Disraeli, time was up.


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02 Mar 2014, 8:25 pm

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02 Mar 2014, 8:26 pm

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Wow! It looks like we can go back to being a normal country!

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/24/us/po ... pe=article

Finally!


Does anyone even look at these charts that accompany these articles? How the hell does this show us getting down to anything close to pre-world war size? Look, a little 10% cut and we're down to pre-WW2 levels. The army is getting chopped right down to nothing. :roll: Yeah, right. This article is at best nothing but wishful thinking. At worst it's BS propaganda to head off any real cuts.

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