Atheists Distribute Anti-Religion Books In GA State Parks

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30 Mar 2014, 4:04 pm

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They have the exact same right to distribute literature as much as anyone else.


They can also put on saffron robes, dance about and chant: Ain't no Harrii, Ain't no Krishna,

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It would be about as much a waste of time as what they're doing now.

It's not like Christians are wandering around the park handing out books annotated copies of the communist manifesto that proclaim all atheists think alike and are all child abusers.



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30 Mar 2014, 11:14 pm

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Makes sense - atheism is very much akin to a cult.


Sociopathic cult group leadership comes in many forms. It probably helped make alot of this stuff, on both sides, and is used as tools for any sociopath. Any sociopathic group leader will say bad things, and get people to believe them over a different group. They need the supply, and the following.

The grand master of satanism says that athiesm is a good thing, because than people will disbelieve in god, and that is a win for him.

There is alot of weird stuff like that going on. It is like a game, and that is why I remain unafilliated. I read into stuff, and pick up on the pieces that makes sence to me. There are way too many unanswered questions, way too much deceit, lies, and way too much to know about the cosmos and stuff for me to believe anyone, or anything totally.



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31 Mar 2014, 2:03 am

Well, if Christians are allowed to hand out bibles, why shouldn't atheists be allowed to hand out anti-religious pamphlets? While I'm more of a "live and let live" sort of atheist, in that I don't attack other people for their views, the fact is that The Bible and the anti-religious pamphlets that are being handed out BOTH contain material that attacks other ideologies, and as such, if it's socially acceptable to hand out one, then why not the other?

In my ideal situation though, the Christian missionaries and hardcore anti-religious atheists would just stop throwing around religious texts and pamphlets and allow people to make up their own minds, come to their own conclusions, and make their own decisions, rather than being harassed about it.



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31 Mar 2014, 8:35 pm

I don't understand why someone would go out of their way to teach, or preach the absence of something.

It's like the attitude goes like this... "we believe that what you believe is not real, even though there is no proof either way, we are going to preach the absence of it all. It's all just a void. Burn everything but science. We don't believe in freedom of religion, because there is no such thing. You are all suffering from mental delusions. Seek professional help immediately. If you do not, we will be mad, and make fun of religion forever, because we have a superior scientific mind... and intellect."

For me, dealing with people from either side is alot like trying to put bones in a jellyfish. You can't.



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06 Apr 2014, 4:41 am

mr_bigmouth_502 wrote:
In my ideal situation though, the Christian missionaries and hardcore anti-religious atheists would just stop throwing around religious texts and pamphlets and allow people to make up their own minds, come to their own conclusions, and make their own decisions, rather than being harassed about it.


I don't feel like when someone gives me something to read that my ability to make a decision is being infringed upon. I read it and think, "I agree with this" or "I disagree with this". I don't mind if people want to share what they think with me. It doesn't affect my ability to make up my own mind about it. But then I like to communicate best by written word, so I like it when people give me things to read. That way I can read it and mull it over in my mind and think about it in my own time and draw my own conclusions. But that's just me I suppose. I've noticed other people get very upset about it like they are insulted, but I am not. It doesn't bother me if someone wants to share what they believe with me. I actually think, well if they can be bothered taking the time to do this it must be important to them. I don't always agree with what they tell me, but I've learned alot about other people by listening to them.



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06 Apr 2014, 5:59 am

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I don't understand why someone would go out of their way to teach, or preach the absence of something.

I once preached atheism on Speaker's Corner in the UK. The reason is I am fed up of religious people preaching a creed based on blind illogical unreasoning faith in something lacking evidence. I was simply exercising my right to redress the balance.

When the day comes that religion has no special place in society to have power over non-religious people (or people with a different religion) I will get off my soapbox.

That day will come when the state is entirely secular; I don't mean that it bans religion, merely that religion takes no part in the Law and has no privileged position anywhere in society and that all religions are treated equally. So no swearing on the Bible or the Quran (or for that matter, the God Delusion) in Court. No bishops or high rabbis in the House of Lords. No making allowances for religion except on compassionate / humanitarian grounds (for example, Sunday trading restrictions are lifted in the UK for Jewish communities).

In other words, where for a nonbeliever, a religion is merely a hobby that other people do and that has ZERO effect on the nonbeliever's life. If you want to wear a sheet between you and your wife when making love, or bark at the full moon naked every month or call for the execution of apostates and unbelievers or worship some dead high priest of an obscure cult who's god was originally a minor regional deity, or whatever... do it IN PRIVATE and on your own time.

As long as it doesn't affect me, we'll get along fine :)


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06 Apr 2014, 6:40 am

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Some athiests do weird things. They say it is not religion, yet they bash religion like it is. They believe you cannot disbelieve it, because it is science, and really spells out like a belief system to me, which by anoyone else can be interpreted as such. Furthermore none of these scientific know it alls can tell me what, and where that five grams of weight goes, that just magically disappears when someone dies. There is a certain percentage of your biological mass that is unaccounted for too.

Those bibles are there for a REASON and NEED to STAY!! !! !
You might run out of toilet paper, or you may need to start a fire.
They crammed alot of nonsence in a small space so the pages are very thin.
It burns very well.
Besides, it is fun to open one of those up, stand on a street corner, and yell those words. Good fairy tail stuff. Just like Santa Clause. It's theory of mind!
You could be creative. Open one up, and play connect the dots or something.

I will remain unaffiliated.


Many believe that reason is emancipatory, and they want to help people by teaching them how to rationally assess claims.

http://www.atheist-experience.com/archive/



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06 Apr 2014, 9:34 am

The only reason these religions are such a success, is because of the people who follow it, or them. Apparently they need something to believe in. That can be helpful, or therapeutic to some. You may believe, know, or think you know something that is otherwise not believed or known to someone else. Whatever trips your trigger. Gay, religious, blank, whatever. It used to be a manditory thing in many places, and that obviously needs to stop, and has in most places. That swearing on the bible thing is middle aged, and kind of goofy, but I can pass it as some neurotypical, fairy tail, theory of mind stuff. It is very weird that this day and age you can go to jail, or get in trouble for refusing to swear on a bible.

As far as that emancipatory thing goes, I am pritty sure that can go either way.

In a way, I actually dislike both to some degree. They both have good, and bad points. I like both views a little too. But not enough to get too carried away with either one. I do leave a window open so to speak, and walk alone on that path. There is no reason not to. Something may be missed. It is like things happen that you cannot explain, and it makes you look at either one and say "how do you know"? Pushing my views on people is a very familiar waste of time :lol: . Sometimes I get carried away, and do it anyways.

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12 Apr 2014, 4:03 am

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Agreed. Apparently athiests want to get rid of books. If they were right about stuff, they would make their own silly book, and trump the other one by putting it in the same drawer In the same hotel room.

Unfortunately atheism is science, soo all they can put in that drawer is some stuff about biology and what have you. :lol:


1) "Apparently athiests want to get rid of books." Citation??
2) Unfortunately atheism is science, soo all they can put in that drawer is some stuff about biology and what have you.... I believe this is a case of confused causation vs correlation. while it is true that most scientists are atheists... it is not true that all atheists are scientists... Atheism is a belief that god doesn't exist... and I know many nihilists that believe this


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12 Apr 2014, 4:58 pm

God is everything... and nothing...

At least they got half of it right.

Half of the other half may have the other half right.

The others dwell in the realm of chaos :lol:



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22 Apr 2014, 7:44 pm

Feralucce wrote:
yournamehere wrote:
Agreed. Apparently athiests want to get rid of books. If they were right about stuff, they would make their own silly book, and trump the other one by putting it in the same drawer In the same hotel room.

Unfortunately atheism is science, soo all they can put in that drawer is some stuff about biology and what have you. :lol:


1) "Apparently athiests want to get rid of books." Citation??
2) Unfortunately atheism is science, soo all they can put in that drawer is some stuff about biology and what have you.... I believe this is a case of confused causation vs correlation. while it is true that most scientists are atheists... it is not true that all atheists are scientists... Atheism is a belief that god doesn't exist... and I know many nihilists that believe this


"atheism is science"????

SO wrong.



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22 Apr 2014, 8:11 pm

ehymw wrote:
Feralucce wrote:
yournamehere wrote:
Agreed. Apparently athiests want to get rid of books. If they were right about stuff, they would make their own silly book, and trump the other one by putting it in the same drawer In the same hotel room.

Unfortunately atheism is science, soo all they can put in that drawer is some stuff about biology and what have you. :lol:


1) "Apparently athiests want to get rid of books." Citation??
2) Unfortunately atheism is science, soo all they can put in that drawer is some stuff about biology and what have you.... I believe this is a case of confused causation vs correlation. while it is true that most scientists are atheists... it is not true that all atheists are scientists... Atheism is a belief that god doesn't exist... and I know many nihilists that believe this


"atheism is science"????

SO wrong.


That is how I hear it from athiests. It is the disbelief in god or gods. There is no supreme being that can squish you like a grape, because you are omnipotent, or whatever. Then they tell me that it is science. I get the storytime of science is right, and it makes perfect sence. There is no proof of god. Blablabla so on and so forth. BAM!! ! Atheism.



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22 Apr 2014, 8:16 pm

There are plenty of things to choose as opponents of religion, but why science exactly? Why not art? It would make a lot more sense to me, honestly. All the half-hearted, lazy atheists could also appeal to art more sincerely since appreciation of art doesn't demand any serious work or thinking (though I suppose the brand of 'scientific atheism' could also be spoonfed to one within 5 or so minutes of instruction).



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22 Apr 2014, 11:03 pm

ehymw wrote:
Feralucce wrote:
yournamehere wrote:
Agreed. Apparently athiests want to get rid of books. If they were right about stuff, they would make their own silly book, and trump the other one by putting it in the same drawer In the same hotel room.

Unfortunately atheism is science, soo all they can put in that drawer is some stuff about biology and what have you. :lol:


1) "Apparently athiests want to get rid of books." Citation??
2) Unfortunately atheism is science, soo all they can put in that drawer is some stuff about biology and what have you.... I believe this is a case of confused causation vs correlation. while it is true that most scientists are atheists... it is not true that all atheists are scientists... Atheism is a belief that god doesn't exist... and I know many nihilists that believe this


"atheism is science"????

SO wrong.


Which is kind of what I said about it... Please note I was quoting the person


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22 Apr 2014, 11:33 pm

What irritates me more than religious material in hotels is religious materials stuffed into books at the bookstore and library. I love hanging out in the bookstore and going through all the shelves for whatever interesting I might find, but there are always this plethora of religious (Christian) bookmarks, tracts and invitations to churches or religious websites stuffed in the pages. I don't recall experiencing this in used bookstores or in books I buy from online. Just in major chain bookstores. Its like subliminal messaging brainwashing



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23 Apr 2014, 1:08 am

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What irritates me more than religious material in hotels is religious materials stuffed into books at the bookstore and library. I love hanging out in the bookstore and going through all the shelves for whatever interesting I might find, but there are always this plethora of religious (Christian) bookmarks, tracts and invitations to churches or religious websites stuffed in the pages. I don't recall experiencing this in used bookstores or in books I buy from online. Just in major chain bookstores. Its like subliminal messaging brainwashing


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