Two Vegas cops, civilian assassinated by terrorists
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In all fairness, I haven't seen any left wing psychos like the Weathermen since the 1970's. Today's violent wing nuts tend to belong to the far right.
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In all fairness, I haven't seen any left wing psychos like the Weathermen since the 1970's. Today's violent wing nuts tend to belong to the far right.
Did you never hear of last year's TSA killer? NWO is just one example of a left wing extremist group.
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In all fairness, I haven't seen any left wing psychos like the Weathermen since the 1970's. Today's violent wing nuts tend to belong to the far right.
Did you never hear of last year's TSA killer? NWO is just one example of a left wing extremist group.
There are so many lunatics, you have to fill me in on the details about that.
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Jerad Miller, who was mired in the probation system because of narcotics convictions, was precisely the kind of person whose vulnerabilities make him valuable as an informant and provocateur.
The Millers were among many hundreds of people who traveled to Bunkerville, Nevada to support rancher Cliven Bundy in his confrontation with the BLM. They may well have been the only volunteers who were asked to leave because of concerns regarding what was described as their ?aggressive nature and volatility.? During their brief visit, however, Jerad was interviewed by the local NBC affiliate, which meant that he was depicted as representative of the people who had rallied to the Bundy family?s cause.
Predictably, following the couple?s subsequent killing spree critics of Cliven Bundy claimed that the rancher, his supporters, and the entire ?insurrectionist right? shared collective responsibility for that crime. Honest people who aren?t imprisoned in collectivist ideology would recognize that rather than being radicalized by so-called anti-government extremists, Jerad Miller is more properly seen as a living example of ?blowback? in the government?s war on drugs.
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So they were feds, the plot thickens.
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Jerad Miller, who was mired in the probation system because of narcotics convictions, was precisely the kind of person whose vulnerabilities make him valuable as an informant and provocateur.
The Millers were among many hundreds of people who traveled to Bunkerville, Nevada to support rancher Cliven Bundy in his confrontation with the BLM. They may well have been the only volunteers who were asked to leave because of concerns regarding what was described as their ?aggressive nature and volatility.? During their brief visit, however, Jerad was interviewed by the local NBC affiliate, which meant that he was depicted as representative of the people who had rallied to the Bundy family?s cause.
Predictably, following the couple?s subsequent killing spree critics of Cliven Bundy claimed that the rancher, his supporters, and the entire ?insurrectionist right? shared collective responsibility for that crime. Honest people who aren?t imprisoned in collectivist ideology would recognize that rather than being radicalized by so-called anti-government extremists, Jerad Miller is more properly seen as a living example of ?blowback? in the government?s war on drugs.
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So they were feds, the plot thickens.
So what, you think their rampage was set up by the feds?
And from what I heard, the two were kicked off the Bundy ranch because of the husband's felony convictions, not because they were any sort of federal informants.
Aand as far as your source is concerned, Lew Rockwell is a homophobic racist, and self-declared anarcho-capitalist. Not exactly the kind of person I'd trust getting any information from.
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Jerad Miller, who was mired in the probation system because of narcotics convictions, was precisely the kind of person whose vulnerabilities make him valuable as an informant and provocateur.
The Millers were among many hundreds of people who traveled to Bunkerville, Nevada to support rancher Cliven Bundy in his confrontation with the BLM. They may well have been the only volunteers who were asked to leave because of concerns regarding what was described as their ?aggressive nature and volatility.? During their brief visit, however, Jerad was interviewed by the local NBC affiliate, which meant that he was depicted as representative of the people who had rallied to the Bundy family?s cause.
Predictably, following the couple?s subsequent killing spree critics of Cliven Bundy claimed that the rancher, his supporters, and the entire ?insurrectionist right? shared collective responsibility for that crime. Honest people who aren?t imprisoned in collectivist ideology would recognize that rather than being radicalized by so-called anti-government extremists, Jerad Miller is more properly seen as a living example of ?blowback? in the government?s war on drugs.
link
So they were feds, the plot thickens.
So what, you think their rampage was set up by the feds?
And from what I heard, the two were kicked off the Bundy ranch because of the husband's felony convictions, not because they were any sort of federal informants.
Aand as far as your source is concerned, Lew Rockwell is a homophobic racist, and self-declared anarcho-capitalist. Not exactly the kind of person I'd trust getting any information from.
History hath shown not to trust to the FBI. You, as far as I am concerned, are a bootlicker and can't admit government fault at anything besides of course if a Republican is the one behind. COINTELPRO is real.
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Jerad Miller, who was mired in the probation system because of narcotics convictions, was precisely the kind of person whose vulnerabilities make him valuable as an informant and provocateur.
The Millers were among many hundreds of people who traveled to Bunkerville, Nevada to support rancher Cliven Bundy in his confrontation with the BLM. They may well have been the only volunteers who were asked to leave because of concerns regarding what was described as their ?aggressive nature and volatility.? During their brief visit, however, Jerad was interviewed by the local NBC affiliate, which meant that he was depicted as representative of the people who had rallied to the Bundy family?s cause.
Predictably, following the couple?s subsequent killing spree critics of Cliven Bundy claimed that the rancher, his supporters, and the entire ?insurrectionist right? shared collective responsibility for that crime. Honest people who aren?t imprisoned in collectivist ideology would recognize that rather than being radicalized by so-called anti-government extremists, Jerad Miller is more properly seen as a living example of ?blowback? in the government?s war on drugs.
link
So they were feds, the plot thickens.
So what, you think their rampage was set up by the feds?
And from what I heard, the two were kicked off the Bundy ranch because of the husband's felony convictions, not because they were any sort of federal informants.
Aand as far as your source is concerned, Lew Rockwell is a homophobic racist, and self-declared anarcho-capitalist. Not exactly the kind of person I'd trust getting any information from.
History hath shown not to trust to the FBI. You, as far as I am concerned, are a bootlicker and can't admit government fault at anything besides of course if a Republican is the one behind. COINTELPRO is real.
Check your history - COINTELPRO was used to spy on and crack down on the left.
And no, I don't trust the FBI, as I think there was sufficient evidence that they knew there was a plot to assassinate JFK in the works, and not only did nothing, but may have even helped facilitate it. Plus, there was all their chicanery in spying on and working against the civil rights and peace movements. That's something which your political and social right seems to have had no problem with. But they've also been from time to time on the right side of history, such as when they had infiltrated the KKK and other hate groups to sabotage them from within. I'm not going to fault the FBI for investigating and cracking down on the far right, as they tend to be the people with not only a stockpile of guns, but every intention of using them. And last time I looked, Bundy and his supporters fit that bill to a tee.
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The Kennedy brothers supported the civil rights movement and government programs that J. Edgar Hoover saw as communistic, for one. For another, there was great personal hate between the brothers and Hoover, as they had every intention of replacing him in JFK's second term, and AG Bobby took every opportunity to ridicule Hoover in the Justice Department. Also, Hoover for decades had denied there was such a thing as organized crime (perhaps he thought the FBI's reputation would be tarnished for not being able to bring them down, or, as one story goes, the mob had had embarrassing pictures of Hoover with another man), but the Kennedy justice department had made it their mission to crack down on the Mafia. This last was putting Hoover in a compromising position, as the mob was obviously real, but he had done nothing about them for years and years - all the more reason to replace him. As author James Elroy wrote of Hoover, "The only thing Hoover f*cked was power." And that precious power of his was definitely threatened by the Kennedys more so than by anyone else.
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I admit, it might be considered a little far fetched.
Actually, I usually find conspiracy theories implausible at best, nutso at worst, but at least the Kennedy assassination theories are the most possible of the lot.
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I admit, it might be considered a little far fetched.
Actually, I usually find conspiracy theories implausible at best, nutso at worst, but at least the Kennedy assassination theories are the most possible of the lot.
I believe that there are conspiracies in the loose sense of the term but not at the level of a conspiracy theorist who believes nearly everything is some kind of conspiracy.
As far as the possibility of a conspiracy behind the Kennedy assassination: So what? At this point the conspirators are likely all either dead or senile and their agency, assuming it was backed by some agency, has changed so much in the past 50 years that whatever it may have been involved in then is now totally irrelevant.
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I admit, it might be considered a little far fetched.
Actually, I usually find conspiracy theories implausible at best, nutso at worst, but at least the Kennedy assassination theories are the most possible of the lot.
I believe that there are conspiracies in the loose sense of the term but not at the level of a conspiracy theorist who believes nearly everything is some kind of conspiracy.
As far as the possibility of a conspiracy behind the Kennedy assassination: So what? At this point the conspirators are likely all either dead or senile and their agency, assuming it was backed by some agency, has changed so much in the past 50 years that whatever it may have been involved in then is now totally irrelevant.
If there was a conspiracy, you can't tell me you seriously wouldn't want to know by whom, or why.
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