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AspieUtah
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23 Oct 2014, 11:40 am

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...Do you have any understanding of the concept of fairness....

Yes. Which is why I hold ALL political parties to account for their corruption and offensive actions. Do you?


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23 Oct 2014, 1:05 pm

AspieUtah wrote:
khaoz wrote:
...Do you have any understanding of the concept of fairness....

Yes. Which is why I hold ALL political parties to account for their corruption and offensive actions. Do you?


I am talking about fairness in this forum, between members, to sallow people to express themselves and to at least try to understand context and rhetoric. We are adults. I see no wrong in using the term "c*ck blocking" in this context, because the amount of effort and collusion being utilized by Obamas opponents are, to me, obscene and unprecedented in American history. It requires a strong response when Mitch McConnell openly says that they are going to do everything in their power to make Obama look bad and to do everything in their power to insure that people blame Obama for the Conservative plan to make Obama look bad. As if Conservatives are just sitting idly by and watching the country go through difficulties. They are not. Conservatives are actively involved in making sure things go badly as often as they can, and then immediately taking steps to convince voters that it is all because of Obama policies and just ignore the fact that they themselves are actively sabotaging Obama at every turn. If you cannot be honest enough to admit this fact when Conservatives have openly stated that this is part of their strategy, then where is the fairness in that? I find these tactics to be treasonous because they are what is destroying this country. Not Obama. As I have many times stated, I did not vote for Obama, I don't agree with or support everything he does, but I refuse to turn a blind eye to these disgusting Conservative tactics. Yes, I do apply my reasoning to both sides but you have to admit that over the past couple years it is Conservatives who have been shooting themselves in their own feet, on a far, far greater scale than the mishaps of Liberal politicians.



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23 Oct 2014, 1:17 pm

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...you have to admit that over the past couple years it is Conservatives who have been shooting themselves in their own feet, on a far, far greater scale than the mishaps of Liberal politicians.

I dunno, I believe that U.S. House of Representatives Speaker Nancy Pelosi saying "[w]e have to pass the [Affordable Care Act] bill so that you [citizens, AKA her employers] can find out what is in it" and the president saying "[i]f you've got a business, you didn't build that; somebody else made that happen" and as presidential candidate "[w]e've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded [as the U.S. military]" are the same scale as whatever their opponents have said stupidly.


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23 Oct 2014, 1:46 pm

AspieUtah wrote:
khaoz wrote:
...you have to admit that over the past couple years it is Conservatives who have been shooting themselves in their own feet, on a far, far greater scale than the mishaps of Liberal politicians.

I dunno, I believe that U.S. House of Representatives Speaker Nancy Pelosi saying "[w]e have to pass the [Affordable Care Act] bill so that you [citizens, AKA her employers] can find out what is in it" and the president saying "[i]f you've got a business, you didn't build that; somebody else made that happen" and as presidential candidate "[w]e've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded [as the U.S. military]" are the same scale as whatever their opponents have said stupidly.



"this statement was so taken out of context and misrepresented by Romney that it was pathetic." I watched Obama make this statement and I did not understand it to mean anything like what Romney represented it to be.

If you really believe that Conservatives never read part or all of the ACA before it was voted on I would say you are a bit naïve. If they were not permitted to read it they should not have voted on it. Hold them accountable for that instead of just saying that Pelosi made a bonhead statement


""[w]e've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded [as the U.S. military]"

To me, this says militia, which any supporter of the 2nd Amendment should approve of. Why should we not be prepared to defend our country from within just as readily as we are to use our military to defend our interests overseas, especially when we are already over extended in the overseas department. Maybe his wording was not formulated in the most effective way but I understand twhat he is saying. I don't view it as a threat. I view all of these "self regulated militias" as a threat to national security.

Lets take, for instance, Conservative candidate Richard Murdoch making the statement about abortions being "Gods will" and how it cost him his election bid. I recognize that he just chose the wrong words to express his opinion. I didn't condemn him for that one statement. He is a local politician to my region. I am familiar with him and gave him a pass. I did not rush to judgement.

I recognize that most of the crap that is getting Conservatives in hot water stems from the fact that they insist on trying to speak from memory, thinking it is a sign of intelligence, leadership, whatever to just wing it. I would prefer candidates use notes or teleprompters and take brief pauses tom contemplate their words. I see no weakness or lack of character in being thoughtful rather than impulsive.