Is this the most severe act of treachery ever by Congress?

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Will this incident be a game changer for who Americans support?

Yes because this is the greatest act of treachery by a US Congress in decades	21%	[ 3 ]
Yes because this is much worse than anything the Democrats have ever done with a Republican President in decades	21%	[ 3 ]
No because while this was an awful move it is not really going to be seen as worse than the obnoxious stuff Republicans and Democrats have been doing for decades	14%	[ 2 ]
No because I think this was a bad move it is not going to be enough to change loyalties or inspire moderates of any kind to switch loyalties	21%	[ 3 ]
No because the Democrats have repeatedly done stuff just as awful as well	7%	[ 1 ]
No because at this point most Americans see the country's two party politics the same as pro wrestling and so they are probably past caring	14%	[ 2 ]

Total votes : 14

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11 Mar 2015, 8:30 pm

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FWIW, I've never been more disappointed in Rand Paul than I am now. I miss his dad.

I think he is trying to fit into the more liberty minded, genuine small gov't faction of conservatives and the N3eocons and diehard Tea Party types. It is incredibly frustrating that he cannot figure out that this strategy is only going to make him lose the support of both factions and so he has got to make up his mind now if it is not already too late.

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11 Mar 2015, 8:42 pm

Treachery? Pah, it's all in the game.

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11 Mar 2015, 8:46 pm

I find USA politics hugely amusing.

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11 Mar 2015, 8:50 pm

I would rather have Canada's politics. anybody wanna trade?

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11 Mar 2015, 9:02 pm

Kissinger and Nixon did the same thing, and no one busted them for it.

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11 Mar 2015, 10:57 pm

This actually isn't to uncommon for American politics. It may be treacherous, but it isn't actually treasonous. It is very hard to find an American politician that doesn't play this kind of game. This one is just a bit more blatant.

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11 Mar 2015, 10:59 pm

^^^
ok, can you give me an example of what the traitorous 47 would have had to do to "officially" go over the line?

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11 Mar 2015, 11:05 pm

/\ /\ Sign a letter annexing Canada as the 51st state ???

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11 Mar 2015, 11:09 pm

I mean, would they have to have actually conspired with senior military in an actual coup before it qualifies as treason? by that time wouldn't any blowback be a bit late? like the horse is already out of the barn [and the coup plotters in control] then.

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12 Mar 2015, 12:24 am

Correct me if I'm wrong:

They sent a letter saying any contract might not be binding next election.

That's just pointing out the truth, in a "wink wink nod nod" way.

And again, screw Iran.

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12 Mar 2015, 1:49 am

auntblabby wrote:

You are trying to discuss marine biology with a box of self tapping screws

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12 Mar 2015, 2:07 am

^^^
:oops: it is like they are akin to the Pharisees who strain at gnats but swallow camels.

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12 Mar 2015, 10:08 am

Dillogic wrote:

Correct me if I'm wrong:

They sent a letter saying any contract might not be binding next election.

That's just pointing out the truth, in a "wink wink nod nod" way.

And again, screw Iran.

Well, in international politics it is sort of expected that the new government does not backtrack out of previous agreements. Otherwise they could wipe the national debt every time there was a new government. Of course, the US cares that the financial markets trust them, they probably won't care so much if they piss off Iran.

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12 Mar 2015, 12:02 pm

This would be the same congress that established the Bureau of Indian Affairs in the War Department?

They have to go a very long way to top the treachery of their negotiations with the native people of the continent.

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12 Mar 2015, 12:20 pm

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Will this incident be a game changer for who Americans support?

Won't change anything for me.

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16 Mar 2015, 9:56 pm

Turns out there was no such thing as a letter. There was a statement posted on a website. Which makes sense, who were they going to address a letter to in Tehran ??
Tehran central mail drop ???

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