White Police Kills Black Man as He Runs-Away.....

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08 Apr 2015, 6:13 pm

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I think the police should be allowed to shoot fleeing suspects, regardless of them being armed or not.


Seems like you would of been at home in Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union.

Not surprising tho, this is essentially what I think happened with Mike Brown as well. Just remember that this cop wouldn't be getting charged with murder if there was no one taping this, he wouldn't of even lost his job. It would of been "justifiable" and the cop saying he "feared for his life" would be all that would be needed. Body cameras need to be mandated now and people should stop and film the police out in the field, they need to be more accountable than anyone.



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08 Apr 2015, 7:28 pm

Jacoby wrote:
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I think the police should be allowed to shoot fleeing suspects, regardless of them being armed or not.
Seems like you would of been at home in Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union.

I can only interpret this as if you want me to suffer extermination through labor.



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08 Apr 2015, 7:47 pm

Humanaut wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
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I think the police should be allowed to shoot fleeing suspects, regardless of them being armed or not.
Seems like you would of been at home in Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union.

I can only interpret this as if you want me to suffer extermination through labor.


Other way around, seems you would be more apt to join along since you so wholly support summary executions by the police.



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08 Apr 2015, 7:56 pm

I'm a nazicommunist because I don't want criminals to roam free?



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08 Apr 2015, 8:24 pm

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I'm a nazicommunist because I don't want criminals to roam free?


Edgelord would probably be a better description but yea dude, you think cops should be able to shoot unarmed people in the back because they don't cooperate with them so what am I suppose to say here?



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08 Apr 2015, 8:41 pm

I'm assuming that everybody on this forum is more or less familiar with the current political climate, the protests over police shootings, and the hostility between cops and people of color. Given all that, it seems pretty irresponsible to just say that he "shouldn't have run" as though these incidents are unrelated events where suspects behaved irresponsibly and tragedy ensued. A cop literally just shot a dude who was posing no threat, and then planted evidence. That context notwithstanding, I also have to wonder how you would respond in a similar situation, or if you realize that most people don't act rationally in situations where their lives are suddenly in danger.

And you should probably realize that those who are perceived as mentally unstable are also sometimes brutalized or killed by cops, and that this category probably includes many of the people who frequent this forum. :/



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08 Apr 2015, 9:02 pm

Jacoby wrote:
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I'm a nazicommunist because I don't want criminals to roam free?
Edgelord would probably be a better description but yea dude, you think cops should be able to shoot unarmed people in the back because they don't cooperate with them so what am I suppose to say here?

I said that the police should be allowed to shoot fleeing suspects, regardless of them being armed or not. I didn't say anything about shooting them in the back. I didn't say they shouldn't be shot in the back either. It depends on the situation. This option should be on the table in my opinion. If this makes me a nazicommunist or an edgelord, so be it.



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08 Apr 2015, 9:51 pm

Humanaut wrote:
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I'm a nazicommunist because I don't want criminals to roam free?
Edgelord would probably be a better description but yea dude, you think cops should be able to shoot unarmed people in the back because they don't cooperate with them so what am I suppose to say here?

I said that the police should be allowed to shoot fleeing suspects, regardless of them being armed or not. I didn't say anything about shooting them in the back. I didn't say they shouldn't be shot in the back either. It depends on the situation. This option should be on the table in my opinion. If this makes me a nazicommunist or an edgelord, so be it.



No being an edgelord makes you an edgelord, off the top of my head I believe you also said that the US should preemptively nuke Russia so it is hard to take you seriously.

Cops are not judge, jury, and executioner or any combination of the three, that's not their job and if you think that then you have a) a fundemental misunderstanding of what a cops job is or b) believe and support some brand of totalitarianism ala Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union.



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08 Apr 2015, 10:20 pm

How do you shoot a fleeing suspect other than in the back? The mind boggles, perhaps physics work differently in Norway...


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09 Apr 2015, 3:07 am

If there's a clear threat to the safety of others, then shooting someone fleeing can be justified.

It doesn't look like that was the case here at first viewing.



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09 Apr 2015, 6:24 am

Jacoby wrote:
Humanaut wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
Humanaut wrote:
I'm a nazicommunist because I don't want criminals to roam free?
Edgelord would probably be a better description but yea dude, you think cops should be able to shoot unarmed people in the back because they don't cooperate with them so what am I suppose to say here?

I said that the police should be allowed to shoot fleeing suspects, regardless of them being armed or not. I didn't say anything about shooting them in the back. I didn't say they shouldn't be shot in the back either. It depends on the situation. This option should be on the table in my opinion. If this makes me a nazicommunist or an edgelord, so be it.



No being an edgelord makes you an edgelord, off the top of my head I believe you also said that the US should preemptively nuke Russia so it is hard to take you seriously.

Cops are not judge, jury, and executioner or any combination of the three, that's not their job and if you think that then you have a) a fundemental misunderstanding of what a cops job is or b) believe and support some brand of totalitarianism ala Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union.


...perhaps he thinks Judge Dredd wasn't a terrible action flick, but a documentary on how justice works in the USA. With current events, I sometimes make that mistake as well.



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09 Apr 2015, 6:57 am

halleluhwah wrote:
I'm assuming that everybody on this forum is more or less familiar with the current political climate, the protests over police shootings, and the hostility between cops and people of color. Given all that, it seems pretty irresponsible to just say that he "shouldn't have run" as though these incidents are unrelated events where suspects behaved irresponsibly and tragedy ensued. A cop literally just shot a dude who was posing no threat, and then planted evidence. That context notwithstanding, I also have to wonder how you would respond in a similar situation, or if you realize that most people don't act rationally in situations where their lives are suddenly in danger.

And you should probably realize that those who are perceived as mentally unstable are also sometimes brutalized or killed by cops, and that this category probably includes many of the people who frequent this forum. :/



Precisely.



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09 Apr 2015, 8:47 am

Dox47 wrote:
How do you shoot a fleeing suspect other than in the back?
Most have feet, but the back is a bigger target, making it a viable option in some situations.

Dillogic wrote:
If there's a clear threat to the safety of others, then shooting someone fleeing can be justified.
Exactly.



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09 Apr 2015, 10:02 am

Humanaut wrote:
I think the police should be allowed to shoot fleeing suspects, regardless of them being armed or not.

Why?



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09 Apr 2015, 11:12 am

Do we know much yet about what happened before the Video.. The Cop may have already be unhinged before shooting the guy or the person may have demonstrated to be complete scum. We are assuming off of what we see and not doing much research into the facts behind the video. Mind you if one of my friends killed someone I might try to argue the person he killed was scum. Mind you if someone in my family were killed I might make him out to be a saint!

We can't know much more then what is on the video!



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09 Apr 2015, 11:13 am

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The officer's been charged with murder:

New York Times

He clearly planted the tazer by the body.


And instead of administering any life saving first aid, the cop had handcuffed the dying man. Talk about criminal indifference to life.


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