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22 Oct 2015, 11:29 am

To me it's strange how police are so concerned about some clock, yet a man who admitted to molesting his sisters is not in prison, but instead is in rehab and soon to be out walking the streets again.



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22 Oct 2015, 11:38 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
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There is no evidence whatsover that the clock was meant to be anything other than a clock.


Which is what I assume to be true.

Which also doesn't take away from it being a non-story.

How many people are given so much for drawing pictures of firearms (which is inventing if they're unique) and getting arrested? That's right: zero.

The fact that he's a Muslim and has so much support is actually racism itself.


It's racism to stick up for the possible victim of racism?

It wasn't racism that caused the idiots at that school to over-react, but it is racism to continuously play the race card. If that dumb kid was white, we would never heard about this situation. :roll:


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22 Oct 2015, 12:07 pm

glebel wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Dillogic wrote:
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There is no evidence whatsover that the clock was meant to be anything other than a clock.


Which is what I assume to be true.

Which also doesn't take away from it being a non-story.

How many people are given so much for drawing pictures of firearms (which is inventing if they're unique) and getting arrested? That's right: zero.

The fact that he's a Muslim and has so much support is actually racism itself.


It's racism to stick up for the possible victim of racism?

It wasn't racism that caused the idiots at that school to over-react, but it is racism to continuously play the race card. If that dumb kid was white, we would never heard about this situation. :roll:


No, we probably wouldn't have heard about it had he been white - - or Christian. Still, I don't see how defending this kid amounts to racism.


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22 Oct 2015, 12:57 pm

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It's racism to stick up for the possible victim of racism?


Yep, because he was treated differently after the fact to all the other people that have suffered arrest for silly things based purely on his race/religious beliefs.

It could be classed as bigotry and favoritism, as religion isn't a "race", but it's the same thing.

Equality means everyone is treated the same.



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22 Oct 2015, 1:16 pm

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Yep, because he was treated differently after the fact to all the other people that have suffered arrest for silly things based purely on his race/religious beliefs.

It could be classed as bigotry and favoritism, as religion isn't a "race", but it's the same thing.

Equality means everyone is treated the same.

I don't understand what you're talking about at all. You're saying that standing up for someone of a different race or religion makes you a racist. That's like saying standing up for someone of the opposite sex makes you a sexist Image



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22 Oct 2015, 1:34 pm

Catlover5 wrote:
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Yep, because he was treated differently after the fact to all the other people that have suffered arrest for silly things based purely on his race/religious beliefs.

It could be classed as bigotry and favoritism, as religion isn't a "race", but it's the same thing.

Equality means everyone is treated the same.

I don't understand what you're talking about at all. You're saying that standing up for someone of a different race or religion makes you a racist. That's like saying standing up for someone of the opposite sex makes you a sexist Image

What he is saying is that if the kid was white, he would have gotten the same treatment but we would never of heard of it. The racism comes in later by the media coverage :roll: :x and by the damn fool politicians playing the race card.


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22 Oct 2015, 1:37 pm

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I don't understand what you're talking about at all. You're saying that standing up for someone of a different race or religion makes you a racist. That's like saying standing up for someone of the opposite sex makes you a sexist Image


How he was treated after the fact.

Do you really think a white person arrested for drawing a firearm would get the gifts and positive treatment that this kid did?

If you stand up for the opposite gender simply because they're the opposite gender (and you wouldn't do it otherwise), then yeah, you're sexist.



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22 Oct 2015, 2:43 pm

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How he was treated after the fact.

Do you really think a white person arrested for drawing a firearm would get the gifts and positive treatment that this kid did?

If you stand up for the opposite gender simply because they're the opposite gender (and you wouldn't do it otherwise), then yeah, you're sexist.

Not a good comparison. Bringing a clock into school versus drawing a firearm.

But to answer your question, no.



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22 Oct 2015, 2:49 pm

This criminalization of science happens to white people too. Just look at what happend to Jack Robison.


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22 Oct 2015, 2:57 pm

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This criminalization of science happens to white people too. Just look at what happend to Jack Robison.



I read that book and even though he didn't break the law and he had research the laws to be sure he wouldn't be breaking any, he still got in trouble because some man on ebay whom he bought an item from to make his bomb reported him after he searched him online and found his youtube channel. With the 9/11 stuff and bomb threats, times have changed and it has screwed peoples perspective. But he was found not guilty but it did change things still for the whole family and his problem became his parents problem too. But they handled it well. Jack is no longer doing the blowing up stuff because of it.


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22 Oct 2015, 3:00 pm

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This criminalization of science happens to white people too. Just look at what happend to Jack Robison.


...who actually blew stuff up, and posted videos of the results on YouTube. Not a great analogy, unless the point you're trying to make is "being a Muslim is every bit as suspicious as being personally engaged in the manufacture of explosives."


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22 Oct 2015, 3:01 pm

Dillogic wrote:
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It's racism to stick up for the possible victim of racism?


Yep, because he was treated differently after the fact to all the other people that have suffered arrest for silly things based purely on his race/religious beliefs.

It could be classed as bigotry and favoritism, as religion isn't a "race", but it's the same thing.

Equality means everyone is treated the same.


As no one suffered due to their race because of the attention clock kid got, I don't see your point.


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22 Oct 2015, 3:13 pm

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This criminalization of science happens to white people too. Just look at what happend to Jack Robison.


...who actually blew stuff up, and posted videos of the results on YouTube. Not a great analogy, unless the point you're trying to make is "being a Muslim is every bit as suspicious as being personally engaged in the manufacture of explosives."

It isn't illegal to blow things up (unless you're destroying someone else's property) so I think it's wrong to be suspicious of someone who's doing science experiments that hurt no one.


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22 Oct 2015, 4:51 pm

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I'm white, and I don't feel guilty. There's no reason to feel guilty about when attention is drawn to racial wrongs both past and present, unless you have something to feel guilty for.

Yes, exactly. The kind of people who are offended by Ahmed's actions probably deserve to be offended.

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when a muslim kid with a typical muslim name brings in a "home made clock" to school...yeah...s**t is gonna hit the fan. i bet you he knew full well what would happen.

This is victim-blaming. This dangerous mentality is where bullying and bigotry begin.

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Do you really think a white person arrested for drawing a firearm would get the gifts and positive treatment that this kid did?

That's not a fair comparison. Drawing a gun is a deliberate act of hostility and violence.

And school shootings happen all the time in America, and the shooters are usually white. It makes perfect sense to arrest a white kid who brings a gun to school.

By comparison, Muslim kids bringing bombs to school isn't really a thing that ever happens. There's no precedent for it, so there was no reason to assume that Ahmed's clock was anything but a clock.



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22 Oct 2015, 11:17 pm

I will be glad when he is gone once and for all. I am tired of hearing about him. I live in that area so I have heard more about it than probably everyone here.



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22 Oct 2015, 11:50 pm

Barchan wrote:
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Do you really think a white person arrested for drawing a firearm would get the gifts and positive treatment that this kid did?

That's not a fair comparison. Drawing a gun is a deliberate act of hostility and violence.


Hahahhahahahahaha

While drawing a gun COULD be an act of hostility in limited circumstances, it is not an act of hostility and violence in other cases.

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And school shootings happen all the time in America, and the shooters are usually white. It makes perfect sense to arrest a white kid who brings a gun to school.


No, they don't. There have been some (more than zero is unacceptable) but they hardly happen all the time.

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there was no reason to assume that Ahmed's clock was anything but a clock.


The only thing you said that wasn't absurd.