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20 Jun 2016, 3:17 pm

I am pro teachers.

I have worked in schools
Like all positions and types of jobs. ... there are good ones and not so good.


I am pro fact checker
Someone in KS or other state can propose laws. It does not mean they passed.

I am pro making the place you live better in your own small or large way. Whether it is in Oz (aka KS) or Australia.


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20 Jun 2016, 6:29 pm

LoveNotHate wrote:
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Brownback sounds pretty good to me.

He's cutting taxes and putting more money into the hands of people.

He's closing off his state to "refugees" which probably means poor , needy people. They probably have too many of them already.

Cutting taxes on small business will help them flourish.

The tax-users won't be happy, but they'll change their tune when they get jobs in the private sector.


Except that because of his tax cuts schools had to close without finishing the school year because there wasn't enough money left to keep them open. His tax cuts have provided very few jobs.


Ideally, he should ween them off of taxes.

His tax cuts likely created many jobs.

However, it's offset with loss of tax-dependent jobs.

It takes time. It's not fair to look at a 1 year period to make such a judgement.

He has to reverse years of tax-dependent jobs, and get those people into the private sector.


I am originally from Kansas and most of my family still lives there. That is why I hate Brownback so much. He is ruining the state. Kathleen Sebilius (sp?) may not have done a great job afterwards but when she was governor of Kansas the budget was balanced and things were going good. Everything started getting worse as soon as Brownback took office.



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20 Jun 2016, 8:42 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
wowiexist wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:
Brownback sounds pretty good to me.

He's cutting taxes and putting more money into the hands of people.

He's closing off his state to "refugees" which probably means poor , needy people. They probably have too many of them already.

Cutting taxes on small business will help them flourish.

The tax-users won't be happy, but they'll change their tune when they get jobs in the private sector.


Except that because of his tax cuts schools had to close without finishing the school year because there wasn't enough money left to keep them open. His tax cuts have provided very few jobs.


Teabagger dystopia.


Well, I LOVE TEA. I say give me more tea!


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20 Jun 2016, 8:46 pm

nurseangela wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
wowiexist wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:
Brownback sounds pretty good to me.

He's cutting taxes and putting more money into the hands of people.

He's closing off his state to "refugees" which probably means poor , needy people. They probably have too many of them already.

Cutting taxes on small business will help them flourish.

The tax-users won't be happy, but they'll change their tune when they get jobs in the private sector.


Except that because of his tax cuts schools had to close without finishing the school year because there wasn't enough money left to keep them open. His tax cuts have provided very few jobs.


Teabagger dystopia.


Well, I LOVE TEA. I say give me more tea!


Tea is fine and good, but only if you have money to buy it, which seems to be out of reach of more and more people in your state, thanks to Brownback's adherence to ideology.
Personally, I much prefer coffee.


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20 Jun 2016, 8:49 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:
wowiexist wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:
Brownback sounds pretty good to me.

He's cutting taxes and putting more money into the hands of people.

He's closing off his state to "refugees" which probably means poor , needy people. They probably have too many of them already.

Cutting taxes on small business will help them flourish.

The tax-users won't be happy, but they'll change their tune when they get jobs in the private sector.


Except that because of his tax cuts schools had to close without finishing the school year because there wasn't enough money left to keep them open. His tax cuts have provided very few jobs.


Ideally, he should ween them off of taxes.

His tax cuts likely created many jobs.

However, it's offset with loss of tax-dependent jobs.

It takes time. It's not fair to look at a 1 year period to make such a judgement.

He has to reverse years of tax-dependent jobs, and get those people into the private sector.


Or maybe Kansas will just spiral into the blackness of teabaggerism. Brownback is actually offering a monetary bounty payable to any high school student who turns in any transgender students using the "wrong" bathroom - and this is at a time when the state of Kansas can't even keep their public schools open. Brownback's problem isn't just right wing economic policy, but regressive, bigoted political reactionaryism which is grinding his state into obscurity.


http://www.kansascity.com/news/politics ... 70012.html

And I second this. That's why I live in Kansas and you don't. I also believe in Secession. That would be best for everyone.


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20 Jun 2016, 8:55 pm

I like coffee
I like tea
I like the java and the java likes me.

Lately been drinking Kava Kava to chill at night.
I believe in God.

I'm blessed to be able to afford a glass tea whenever I want.

Anyone like the band Kansas?

All we are is dust in the wind and other hits.

me...Jayhawker air hockey champ back in the day....


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20 Jun 2016, 8:59 pm

QuantumChemist wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:

Ideally, he should ween them off of taxes.

His tax cuts likely created many jobs.

However, it's offset with loss of tax-dependent jobs.

It takes time. It's not fair to look at a 1 year period to make such a judgement.

He has to reverse years of tax-dependent jobs, and get those people into the private sector.


I wanted to comment on this as I have relatives that still live in that state. Kansas is really only downgrading jobs in this game, not gaining them. It is losing qualified individuals to other states due directly to the governor's actions. Here are a few examples:

Construction workers

http://kansas.newshub.us/news/item/06-1 ... n%20nation

Teachers

http://kcur.org/post/evidence-mounts-mo ... ing-kansas

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show ... n-relocate

I know some think that teachers are spoiled brats that only work for 9 months to get paid for 12. To those people, I suggest actually try a teaching position and then see how long they would last in it. It is much harder to do properly than it looks. Once you lose the good teachers, it is very hard to get them back. The real losers in this are the students, as their future is at risk.


I do believe this last paragraph. I believe the teachers shouldn't get paid as much as they do after retirement, I believe that school should go all year, and being in college now again I believe the teachers are trying to teach kids the wrong stuff - teachers are definitely Leftist and their teaching shows that. That is why I believe a lot more in homeschooling. There were classes that I have taken in college where I had to watch what I said because I knew the teacher was Democrat. Teachers shouldn't have that much power. I still haven't figured out why most teachers are Democrat. I know they belong to the Teachers Union and that's Democrat. Maybe that's it.

Exhibit A: My very ex-friend De De was a school teacher and an extreme radical Leftist - hence the "very ex friend".


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20 Jun 2016, 9:05 pm

drlaugh wrote:
I like coffee
I like tea
I like the java and the java likes me.

Lately been drinking Kava Kava to chill at night.
I believe in God.

I'm blessed to be able to afford a glass tea whenever I want.

Anyone like the band Kansas?

All we are is dust in the wind and other hits.

me...Jayhawker air hockey champ back in the day....


Good for you! I'm a Jayhawker too! Hey that rhymed! :mrgreen:


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20 Jun 2016, 9:06 pm

I loved school in MO and KS.

Group projects and presentations before the class seem to be obstacles of various heights to folks on the spectrum.
They were for me in school

Music and theater, which were taken on the side during college, come in very handy these days.

If it's time to get "out of Dodge or Drudge" it is up to you.

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21 Jun 2016, 1:33 am

nurseangela wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:
wowiexist wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:
Brownback sounds pretty good to me.

He's cutting taxes and putting more money into the hands of people.

He's closing off his state to "refugees" which probably means poor , needy people. They probably have too many of them already.

Cutting taxes on small business will help them flourish.

The tax-users won't be happy, but they'll change their tune when they get jobs in the private sector.


Except that because of his tax cuts schools had to close without finishing the school year because there wasn't enough money left to keep them open. His tax cuts have provided very few jobs.


Ideally, he should ween them off of taxes.

His tax cuts likely created many jobs.

However, it's offset with loss of tax-dependent jobs.

It takes time. It's not fair to look at a 1 year period to make such a judgement.

He has to reverse years of tax-dependent jobs, and get those people into the private sector.


Or maybe Kansas will just spiral into the blackness of teabaggerism. Brownback is actually offering a monetary bounty payable to any high school student who turns in any transgender students using the "wrong" bathroom - and this is at a time when the state of Kansas can't even keep their public schools open. Brownback's problem isn't just right wing economic policy, but regressive, bigoted political reactionaryism which is grinding his state into obscurity.


http://www.kansascity.com/news/politics ... 70012.html

And I second this. That's why I live in Kansas and you don't. I also believe in Secession. That would be best for everyone.


Well, you can keep Kansas, and I'll keep Washington.
I don't believe secession is best for anyone. America has been a shining beacon for the world as an example of free government and equality, a safe harbor for those seeking to live in liberty, as well as a force for fighting global oppression, whether that was from fascism in the past, or Islamic fundamentalism today. All that would be gone if we as a country were to break up into squabbling little independant states.
As for the transgender matter - There are transmen who now appear as male after surgery and introduction of hormones. Are they to use the women's room? What of the trans women whose very lives could be in jeopardy were they to walk into a men's room filled with violent rednecks?


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21 Jun 2016, 5:11 am

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I still haven't figured out why most teachers are Democrat. I know they belong to the Teachers Union and that's Democrat. Maybe that's it.


Teachers everywhere are on the left of the political spectrum in the country they are in. It's pretty much part of their job description; their job is to teach everyone, regardless of ability. After a few years in the profession, they have a unique overview of abilities, personality types and home circumstances. They worry what will happen to their students once they finish school. The type of person who is attracted to a teaching job is on average more altruistic and idealistic than your average person. Teachers are seldom in it for the money. I'm not saying they are not prejudiced and don't become disillusioned, and that there isn't a large variety of personalities in the teaching profession as well, but the average teacher is very into equality and cooperation.


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21 Jun 2016, 5:44 am

1. It is good to be comfortable where you hang your hat or other clothing accessory

2. There are teachers and school staff on the right

3. There have been trans folks using there preferred bathrooms and other dailies for decades. They just don't announce it or put it to a vote.

IV. Time for golf


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22 Jun 2016, 3:21 pm

nurseangela wrote:

I do believe this last paragraph. I believe the teachers shouldn't get paid as much as they do after retirement, I believe that school should go all year, and being in college now again I believe the teachers are trying to teach kids the wrong stuff - teachers are definitely Leftist and their teaching shows that. That is why I believe a lot more in homeschooling. There were classes that I have taken in college where I had to watch what I said because I knew the teacher was Democrat. Teachers shouldn't have that much power. I still haven't figured out why most teachers are Democrat. I know they belong to the Teachers Union and that's Democrat. Maybe that's it.

Exhibit A: My very ex-friend De De was a school teacher and an extreme radical Leftist - hence the "very ex friend".


The answer is pretty simple. Teachers are trained in critical thinking and they tend to value fact-based opinion. Hence, most SEEM like democrats...

And another thing... I've disagreed with MANY teachers and I've never been penalized for it--not even once.

In my experience, there's no problem AS LONG AS you can support your views with facts.

I've had some lengthy rebuttals attached to a few papers, but I've never lost a point for disagreeing with a teacher when I could support my position.


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22 Jun 2016, 4:54 pm

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I do believe this last paragraph. I believe the teachers shouldn't get paid as much as they do after retirement, I believe that school should go all year, and being in college now again I believe the teachers are trying to teach kids the wrong stuff - teachers are definitely Leftist and their teaching shows that. That is why I believe a lot more in homeschooling. There were classes that I have taken in college where I had to watch what I said because I knew the teacher was Democrat. Teachers shouldn't have that much power. I still haven't figured out why most teachers are Democrat. I know they belong to the Teachers Union and that's Democrat. Maybe that's it.

Exhibit A: My very ex-friend De De was a school teacher and an extreme radical Leftist - hence the "very ex friend".


The answer is pretty simple. Teachers are trained in critical thinking and they tend to value fact-based opinion. Hence, most SEEM like democrats...

And another thing... I've disagreed with MANY teachers and I've never been penalized for it--not even once.

In my experience, there's no problem AS LONG AS you can support your views with facts.

I've had some lengthy rebuttals attached to a few papers, but I've never lost a point for disagreeing with a teacher when I could support my position.


Then you should read the first line of this article.

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/bar ... expressing

I never spoke in class like I do here - not as much anyway because it was hard not to say anything. The teacher had even said that there had been fights before in his class and chair throwing, etc., Lord help us. :roll: I knew the teacher was Democrat. We did have some heated "discussions", but I held my tongue more than I wanted to. The teacher must have liked my spunk because he hit on me (it was totally unexpected - I was just standing there and looked up and there he was! Our noses were almost touching! Yuck! I think I just threw up in my mouth. That actually bothered me for awhile even though other people were around because he did other things too, but I just can't remember now.), but I got my A! Ha! :mrgreen: I made such a good grade that he even let me out of doing a second research paper! I guess I know how to use my Conservative wiles, huh? :wink: Oh yeah.


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22 Jun 2016, 5:03 pm

The worst looking slums I've ever seen where outside KC.Doesn't look like those conservative values are helping anyone.I also really doubt that most people in Lawrence would care if there was a transgendered person in the bathroom.Very good beer there at Free State brewery.And it was chock full of Liberals.


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22 Jun 2016, 5:09 pm

That's why I'm not in Lawrence. The nursing part of the school is connected to the KU Hospital that is close to Johnson County and the rich Plaza. :mrgreen: I'm also allergic to beer so you probably wouldn't catch me at the brewery. (Beer used to be my favorite drink though - with a straw! That's probably why I have an allergy now - cause I drank just too much of it. Darn. I can still remember how it tastes, too. Yum!)


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