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21 Jul 2016, 12:42 pm

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Except it was Obama who killed the replacement for the space shuttle, Bush actually was a proponent returning to the moon by 2020 but the program was ended by Obama who had other priorities which is understandable given the state of the economy when he took office. However Obama has stirred the focus of NASA away from space exploration to his little pet projects like global warming and foremost "to find a way to reach out to the Muslim world and engage much more with dominantly Muslim nations to help them feel good about their historic contribution to science ... and math and engineering."

There is just no point to the US in getting back to the moon and it's impossible with the small amount of money that the GOP controlled congress allow to NASA. The asteroids exploration project made under Obama would bring more long term benefit.
Don't underestimate the contribution of Arabs toward science either; it's not without reason the word algebra is of arabian origin.


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21 Jul 2016, 12:50 pm

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I am not wrong because the Clinton's 'burn the tapes' so to speak, I am not wrong because the Clinton's are held to different standard than rest of America. Do you believe Bill Cosby is guilty? Why aren't any other Democrats embroiled in constant scandal? It's just nonsense, do you honestly believe in the 'vast right wing conspiracy'? :lol:

Tonight will be a great night, Donald finally gets to take the stage as well Ivanka and Peter Thiel.


They tried to blame fast and furious on Obama when it was Bush's fault. They blame the deficit on Obama even though he cut it in half. They tried to blame him for the fake IRS scandal, they tried blaming him for Benghazi and they tried blaming him for Isis when again it was Bush's fault. So it looks like you're wrong again. :lol:


None of those had anything to do with Obama personally tho or with corruption, they are not scandals in the same vein as Whitewater or enabling a rapist. Incompetence and foolhardiness are not corruption. The closest thing to that was probably when ironically enough Hillary brought up Tony Rezko in one of the Democratic primary debate in 2008.


And the ones you mention Are just speculation and disproven scandals. This is what I meant about you being so wrong about Clinton. You make all these baseless claims and you never provide a shred of evidence. No you just like to pretend the conservative fantasy is real.

Incompetence and foolhardiness? That sounds like the Republicans with all these fake investigations they've been having in the House. You would think if Hillary actually did something it would come out at one of these hearings, but no, Republicans have nothing.



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21 Jul 2016, 12:54 pm

I do not deny the contribution of Muslims to science but I don't think the self esteem of the Muslim world really should be the foremost concern of NASA. Why would it be pointless to return to the moon? I don't think that's true from science perspective or even a political one. Returning to the moon and establishing a lunar outpost would be huge I think. I don't think space exploration was a high priority for either of them.



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21 Jul 2016, 12:59 pm

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I am not wrong because the Clinton's 'burn the tapes' so to speak, I am not wrong because the Clinton's are held to different standard than rest of America. Do you believe Bill Cosby is guilty? Why aren't any other Democrats embroiled in constant scandal? It's just nonsense, do you honestly believe in the 'vast right wing conspiracy'? :lol:

Tonight will be a great night, Donald finally gets to take the stage as well Ivanka and Peter Thiel.


They tried to blame fast and furious on Obama when it was Bush's fault. They blame the deficit on Obama even though he cut it in half. They tried to blame him for the fake IRS scandal, they tried blaming him for Benghazi and they tried blaming him for Isis when again it was Bush's fault. So it looks like you're wrong again. :lol:


None of those had anything to do with Obama personally tho or with corruption, they are not scandals in the same vein as Whitewater or enabling a rapist. Incompetence and foolhardiness are not corruption. The closest thing to that was probably when ironically enough Hillary brought up Tony Rezko in one of the Democratic primary debate in 2008.


And the ones you mention Are just speculation and disproven scandals. This is what I meant about you being so wrong about Clinton. You make all these baseless claims and you never provide a shred of evidence. No you just like to pretend the conservative fantasy is real.

Incompetence and foolhardiness? That sounds like the Republicans with all these fake investigations they've been having in the House. You would think if Hillary actually did something it would come out at one of these hearings, but no, Republicans have nothing.


They have something but having something doesn't matter when it can't prosecuted for political reasons, the Clinton scandals weren't made up and getting away with them does not mean they are 'disproven'. They were 'disproven' like the guilt of OJ Simpson. They are above the law, they have always held the it utter contempt.



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21 Jul 2016, 1:07 pm

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I do not deny the contribution of Muslims to science but I don't think the self esteem of the Muslim world really should be the foremost concern of NASA. Why would it be pointless to return to the moon? I don't think that's true from science perspective or even a political one. Returning to the moon and establishing a lunar outpost would be huge I think. I don't think space exploration was a high priority for either of them.


You called global warming a pet project!? The Guardian calls it the biggest threat to the global economy. And that it is the biggest concern in international polls. According to NASA 97 percent of actively publishing climate scientists are that it's happening and humans are driving it. By no that's just a pet project. :roll:



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21 Jul 2016, 1:11 pm

Jacoby,

I know that you want so badly for that to be true. Unfortunately it's not. They were disproven like Obama being born in Africa was disproven.



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21 Jul 2016, 1:18 pm

There is no question of Hillary's corruption, no wishing involved. Nothing was 'disproven'! We know Hillary lied, we know she acted recklessly, we know about her more than questionable ethics. No amount of wishing on your part will ever make them go away and she has shown no signs of changing(only her supposed ideological principles change), she carries a permanent stain and that's why she will be so easy to defeat in November.



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21 Jul 2016, 1:23 pm

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Evidence?



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21 Jul 2016, 1:42 pm

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Evidence?


smoke = fire

Do you believe Bill Cosby is innocent? Do you believe OJ Simpson is innocent?

Just because someone is powerful enough to commit such dastardly crimes and not be held responsible for them does not make them 'disproven'.



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21 Jul 2016, 2:02 pm

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smoke = fire

Do you believe Bill Cosby is innocent? Do you believe OJ Simpson is innocent?

Just because someone is powerful enough to commit such dastardly crimes and not be held responsible for them does not make them 'disproven'.


It does when investigation after investigation clears her.



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21 Jul 2016, 2:08 pm

They didn't clear her tho, they decided not to prosecute because conviction was unlikely given the political implications, listen what Comey said and go read about Whitewater.



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21 Jul 2016, 2:15 pm

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They didn't clear her tho, they decided not to prosecute because conviction was unlikely given the political implications, listen what Comey said and go read about Whitewater.


You're misunderstanding what he said. No reasonable prosecutor would bring anyone up on charges over that. So yeah they did clear her.



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21 Jul 2016, 2:34 pm

Oh, and Hitler had military support from the beginning just about.



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21 Jul 2016, 2:38 pm

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They didn't clear her tho, they decided not to prosecute because conviction was unlikely given the political implications, listen what Comey said and go read about Whitewater.


You're misunderstanding what he said. No reasonable prosecutor would bring anyone up on charges over that. So yeah they did clear her.


You are wrong, not cleared and anybody else would be prosecuted as people have for far less. Like I said, go do some reading and research into this stuff then maybe you'd come away with a different point of view.



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21 Jul 2016, 2:42 pm

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They didn't clear her tho, they decided not to prosecute because conviction was unlikely given the political implications, listen what Comey said and go read about Whitewater.


You're misunderstanding what he said. No reasonable prosecutor would bring anyone up on charges over that. So yeah they did clear her.


You are wrong, not cleared and anybody else would be prosecuted as people have for far less. Like I said, go do some reading and research into this stuff then maybe you'd come away with a different point of view.


No I wouldn't because I'm right.

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21 Jul 2016, 3:02 pm

Nuh uh! You're wrong and the Democratic party has committed suicide by nominating this criminal as their nominee, if you hate Trump so much then you should hate Hillary even more because her being the nominee ensures Trump's coming victory. Not a single easier opponent to run against because there is simply so much to run against.