Aristophanes wrote:
0regonGuy wrote:
Stop twisting the meanings of words around. Every time a cop says "I was fearing for my life" he is by definition a coward. The the bully thug cops are the cowards. People who fight back against the bully thugs do not fit the definition of a coward.
When you're taking pot shots behind a group of civilians (really citizens, but since we're talking assassination we'll use the word civilian) you're not only being cowardly, you're also endangering those people-- who by all accounts were there peacefully. Not only that it destroys THEIR message, since now the story isn't about a protest against brutal police action, but the assassination of police officers-- which virtually no one is calling for but yourself and a few other fringies, not to mention that it plays right into the police union's narrative. Not only that, but it makes it hard for people like myself and the other posters here to make the argument for tighter control on police behavior, since well, they
are actually being targeted and assassinated now-- and I can't from any kind of moral or humanitarian aspect defend that behavior.
It doesn't help from a political perspective, rhetorical perspective, nor a progress perspective since how do you think the police will respond? *hint, hint-- they'll double down on their aggressive tactics. If you're going to turn into that which you hate, what is the point?
First off neither of those attacks endangered citizens, any more then the cops do with their shootings. If you want to talk about endangering citizens, lets talk about those cops in Washington state who sprayed a gas station and convenience store full of bullets, sending customers and employees diving on to the floor, while they were executing a man outside for throwing pebbles at them. But I guess you think it's OK for the cops to endanger a store full of people, because they don't want to get hit with a pebble.
As for how the cops will respond. I know how they will respond. They will retaliate. Thats what gangs do. They retaliate. The only thing that will stop them for retaliating, is fear that the other side will retaliate back against them again. When you retaliate against the bullies, then you can negotiate. If you don't fight back, then the bullies just keep on doing it. Which is what has been happening for years now. The number of cops getting killed has been going down, while the number of people getting killed by the cops has been skyrocketing.
You seem to think I disagree with you on police behavior-- I do not. The only difference between us is that I'm advocating for an approach that can actually make positive change right now where we're at in 2016 and beyond, whereas you're advocating taking it all the way back to the jungle and rebuilding from there, circa 8,000b.c. Sorry, but the last 10k years of human evolution have been too important to toss away because you're not patient enough to make change happen the civilized way.
26 Jul 2016, 8:24 pm
