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09 Aug 2016, 5:09 pm

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"being on the left doesn't make you a Hillary supporter, and being on the right doesn't mean you have to support Trump."

Whoever you vote for, is who you support. If you will be voting for Hillary, then you support her. If I did not support Trump, then I would not be voting. So far, I'm still supporting him and will be voting for him. It's pretty straight forward.

I'll say this, if Trump was accused of half the things Hillary has been accused of, I would not be supporting him. I don't support a candidate just because they are Republican. I have voted Democratic a couple times.


I'm probably not voting or will write in, this election is B.S in my opinion.

Also I thought trump was accused of molesting some 13 year old, I'd think that is worth at least half the things Hillary has been accused of. Yet I don't see you or his supporters stepping back to consider maybe trump isn't the hero you think he is. Granted it could be a false allegation....but still I'd want to be damn sure I wasn't supporting/voting for a child molester before I continued my enthusiasm for him if I was among those considering voting for him.


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09 Aug 2016, 5:17 pm

"Also I thought trump was accused of molesting some 13 year old, I'd think that is worth at least half the things Hillary has been accused of."

From the information I found, she wasn't reputable. I try to look up everything Trump is accused of and weigh whether it is enough for me to not vote. If he had been involved in Benghazi, that would have put him on my "S" list. The email scandal would have been another thing I wouldn't have put up with, but it seems that no matter what Hillary does, her supporters never waver - they just keep coming up with crazy crap to blame Trump with.


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09 Aug 2016, 7:25 pm

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"Also I thought trump was accused of molesting some 13 year old, I'd think that is worth at least half the things Hillary has been accused of."

From the information I found, she wasn't reputable. I try to look up everything Trump is accused of and weigh whether it is enough for me to not vote. If he had been involved in Benghazi, that would have put him on my "S" list. The email scandal would have been another thing I wouldn't have put up with, but it seems that no matter what Hillary does, her supporters never waver - they just keep coming up with crazy crap to blame Trump with.


Kind of like how Trump supporters are doing the same thing with Clinton!

But the truth of the matter is- almost all the stuff said about Trump is true!

1- He hasnt paid many workers- that's a fact.

2- He mocked a disabled reporter- ALSO A FACT (there is no reason for a grown up man to act the way Trump did towards the reporter, period. The excuse of "I didnt know the guy was disabled" is nonsense).

3- He has said he would "date his daughter if they werent related"- fact! There is nothing that can fix this quote ever. It's sick and messed up.

4- He's bankrupt many businesses.

5- He has no political experience.

6- He still hasnt revealed his taxes (Why? I doubt some audit still isnt going on. He is just trying to con people as long as he can).

7- He's a draft dodger (his supporters will whine about how he had a "good reason", but he didn't)

8- His insults towards the Khan family- fact! No mature politician should be that insulting, period.

9- His insults towards John McCain (which don't just instantly go away because he "endorsed" McCain. It's clear he endorsed Ryan and McCain due to pressure from people in the Republican party.)

10- He asked Russia to hack us (then covered it up by saying it was a joke, which is pathetic)


Go ahead and pick apart all those examples, I don't care because I do know they are facts. Unfortunately Trump supporters cant accept the truth so they either try to lie, change the subject or gaslight- all things that Donald Trump does on a regular basis.



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09 Aug 2016, 7:50 pm

Earthbound wrote:
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"Also I thought trump was accused of molesting some 13 year old, I'd think that is worth at least half the things Hillary has been accused of."

From the information I found, she wasn't reputable. I try to look up everything Trump is accused of and weigh whether it is enough for me to not vote. If he had been involved in Benghazi, that would have put him on my "S" list. The email scandal would have been another thing I wouldn't have put up with, but it seems that no matter what Hillary does, her supporters never waver - they just keep coming up with crazy crap to blame Trump with.


Kind of like how Trump supporters are doing the same thing with Clinton!

But the truth of the matter is- almost all the stuff said about Trump is true!

1- He hasnt paid many workers- that's a fact.

2- He mocked a disabled reporter- ALSO A FACT (there is no reason for a grown up man to act the way Trump did towards the reporter, period. The excuse of "I didnt know the guy was disabled" is nonsense).

3- He has said he would "date his daughter if they werent related"- fact! There is nothing that can fix this quote ever. It's sick and messed up.

4- He's bankrupt many businesses.

5- He has no political experience.

6- He still hasnt revealed his taxes (Why? I doubt some audit still isnt going on. He is just trying to con people as long as he can).

7- He's a draft dodger (his supporters will whine about how he had a "good reason", but he didn't)

8- His insults towards the Khan family- fact! No mature politician should be that insulting, period.

9- His insults towards John McCain (which don't just instantly go away because he "endorsed" McCain. It's clear he endorsed Ryan and McCain due to pressure from people in the Republican party.)

10- He asked Russia to hack us (then covered it up by saying it was a joke, which is pathetic)


Go ahead and pick apart all those examples, I don't care because I do know they are facts. Unfortunately Trump supporters cant accept the truth so they either try to lie, change the subject or gaslight- all things that Donald Trump does on a regular basis.


I'm going to be just like most of the Left and answer #1 with I don't care, #2 if true, then he needs to correct but not enough for me to hold my vote, #3-10 not important enough to not get my vote. #3 isn't even worth my time, #4 is how businesses are run in the US, #5 makes no difference to me because the experienced ones like Hillary SUCK! in my book, #6 he doesn't owe his tax information to anyone just like Asswipe held out on his information, #7 doesn't matter to me, #8 I already made another thread about the truth on the Khan family, #9 McCain is owed NOTHING and either is the rest of the Republican party that has been trying to overthrow Trump from the beginning and would still like too including dirty Paul Ryan, #10 honestly Trump said it was a joke and I'm going to accept that. What Hillary has done is a million times worse and it's amazing that you and others still support her with blinders on. So why would I turn against Trump for these little TRIVIAL reasons you have put forth? I'm about to laugh in your face. You come on my thread saying all this crap "is fact", but where is your PROOF? I posted on your Trump thread with actual PROOF from CNN (one of your trusted sources) of why I'm still for Trump even though he was endorsed by the KKK. Unless you have proof for all of your allegations here, then don't waste my time.


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09 Aug 2016, 7:55 pm

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"Also pretty much everyone of your back up articles is a heavily baised right wing media source with questionable accuracy."

This is because the media is Leftist - I've made several posts proving this. This is another double standard - why should it be OK for the Left to use their media like PBS and MSNBC which are clearly Democratic, but I'm not able to use my Rightwing news sources? I have actually used their news sources (Wall Street Journal, CNN) when it backs up my point. I don't see any on the Left catering to me by using Fox News, Drudge, etc.


I tend to look for the most non-baised news I can find, stuff that just tells me facts without so much opinion of the author trying to convince me what to think. Regardless of if its left wing or right wing bais, it's going to interfere with the accuracy of the article and it's claims. That aside corporations control the media not the right or the left, its about money making not providing citizens with accurate or reliable news for the most part.


Earthbounds post is what I was talking to you about. That is how some on the Left back themselves up - just because they claim something is "fact" then everyone should just accept it when they present NO PROOF. I'm tired and bored with that game. NEXT!


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10 Aug 2016, 4:45 pm

nurseangela wrote:
To his ranch in Texas, dude. And not at the taxpayers expense.

Why is it that the Left only gives half of the story?


Taxpayers payed for Bush to take his "vacations", same as Obama. They don't do these trips on their own dime. Even if they do happen to pay for their airfare, which they don't since they use air force one. They still take along a whole mess of personnel, bodyguards and staff, which are all payed for by taxpayers. In essence you are just splitting hairs since the difference in cost is negligible. If you have any figures on who spent more taxpayer money to back up your rhetoric, I'll take a look. Other than that, this is a non story.

I understand you have a deep seated hatred for Obama. But whining about something this petty is just silly. :P


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