The hounding of Gabby Douglas at the Olympics

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17 Aug 2016, 12:32 am

I'm surprised no butthole has tried making this into a racial thing. ... Or have they?


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17 Aug 2016, 3:24 am

Campin_Cat wrote:
So, your saying that Trump "is setting up for a coup" is not you trying to figure-out what's in someone else's head?...

That assertion was based on his behaviour, not on any presumed "inside" knowledge. Specifically his setting up to claim that the election is fraudulent, his demonizing of his opponent, his "divide and conquer" strategy with regard to Muslims, etc.
This is different than looking at someone and trying to read their thoughts by their expression. Douglas' not putting her hand on her heart would be an example of behaviour indicating disrespect, but, again, I think her standing at attention is enough.
And thank you for linking to my thread. It is totally speculative, but it could happen.



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17 Aug 2016, 7:47 am

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This will be the last time I post in this discussion.

I honestly feel like you are just trying to attack me and others by bringing up other subjects. That's not only rude but its derailing this topic! Sorry if I offended with previous comments but honestly.. people just need to leave Gabby alone.

Athletes and celebrities get abused (online in comments, by the media in real life, etc) way too often. Almost always that type of abuse is not justified. Plus way too many people overreact to every little thing. She has her right to do what she wants and it was NOT a huge deal, but the media will turn it into a huge issue.. for the ratings, the website views and so on. Then people that don't read everything about it- will assume the media is right and there isn't anything else to it. That's ignorant and shouldn't be happening to anyone.

I see no difference between what I said here, and what you have said, elsewhere.



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17 Aug 2016, 7:47 am

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Campin_Cat wrote:
So, your saying that Trump "is setting up for a coup" is not you trying to figure-out what's in someone else's head?...

That assertion was based on his behaviour, not on any presumed "inside" knowledge. Specifically his setting up to claim that the election is fraudulent, his demonizing of his opponent, his "divide and conquer" strategy with regard to Muslims, etc.
This is different than looking at someone and trying to read their thoughts by their expression. Douglas' not putting her hand on her heart would be an example of behaviour indicating disrespect, but, again, I think her standing at attention is enough.
And thank you for linking to my thread. It is totally speculative, but it could happen.

Yes, it's the same, IMO, as what I said about Gabby.

I see no difference between what I said here, and what you have said, elsewhere.



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17 Aug 2016, 8:30 am

You are part of the problem.



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17 Aug 2016, 8:41 am

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I'm surprised no butthole has tried making this into a racial thing. ... Or have they?


They went after her for her hair texture.


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17 Aug 2016, 10:33 am

^^ Now, THAT, IMO, is ridiculous----what's she 'spose t'do, go to the beauty parlor in-between working her heart out, to win the gold!!



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17 Aug 2016, 8:27 pm

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I think her not giving the flag / anthem the "civilian salute", is DISGRACEFUL----I always wanna SMACK the athlete that doesn't put their hand over their heart!!


I heard from someone else that she is from military family so would be more used to standing at attention than acting as civilian.



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17 Aug 2016, 9:46 pm

beneficii wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
I'm surprised no butthole has tried making this into a racial thing. ... Or have they?


They went after her for her hair texture.


I was thinking more along the lines of her "lack of patriotism" being tied to something absurd like Black Lives Matter.


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17 Aug 2016, 11:54 pm

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Well, if they think they can show more patriotism than her, let them replace her at the Olympics and see if they can win for this country.


Welp... not many in the gymnastic community wanted Douglas on the team, except Marta Karoly (head coach for the women's gymnastic team)

Many people believe Marta was under pressure to include Gabby because she's a pro athlete with big name endorsements. The day after the team was picked, a Gabby Barbie was released. Bad PR move.

They bitched Douglas had half assed it through a few big name competitions and came in 7th during Olympic Trials. 7th shouldn't even get you an alternate position. Marta pick her to compete bars over another excellent bar worker who placed higher. So everyone screamed BS on that and hoped Douglas would fail big time in Rio.

People also have issues with Gabby's family, who basically sponge off her endorsements.

And Gabby is no Simone Biles. It's hard to shine next to a peppy super nova.

Gabby did her job in the team finals by not f*****g up, and blew it big time in her event finals. People rejoiced in her fail, as she was the only one on the team without an individual medal.

The reason for the rejoicing...

This would kill Gabby's endorsements and finally make her family get jobs.
It would piss her controlling mother off, and maybe Gabby could get from under her meat hooks.

All the women on the team are coached and go to seminars on how to act appropriately. US gymnastics really stresses this aspect. Gabby being a veteran, KNOWS all this s**t. It isn't her first time up on the podium. Having everyone doing the same thing (hands over your heart) is a big deal. As in endorsement big deal. Most of the big training centers are in the South, and you best put your hand over your heart. God and USA type attitude.

Gabby has looked like she'd rather take bullet to the head than compete. Disinterested doesn't even begin to describe it. She has had a f**k my life face since her come back.

Gabby received a s**t load of bad PR after the London Olympics. She has PR people managing her. Everything she has been doing is self sabotage. Simone looks all perky and neat. Gabby looks like they dragged her out from the attic. Simone is all team mates and smiles. Gabby has scowled her way all through these Olympics. Simone puts her hand over her heart with red white and blue nail polish. Gabby looks like special needs kid who doesn't know what the hell is going on.

And people have asked me if Douglas is on the spectrum because of all of the above. I think Gabby has a controlling psycho mother and killing endorsements is a way to get out of her claws.

That is the Cliffnotes version of Gabby's train wreck. Sad thing is, if her mom would get the hell out of her life, and let Gabby just train; Gabby is a really good gymnast.

Natalie (Gabby's mom) is spinning all this negative press to keep her meat ticket in the news. After Rio, no one will really care about Gabby endorsement wise. It will all be Simone.



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18 Aug 2016, 7:39 am

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Gabby has looked like she'd rather take bullet to the head than compete. Disinterested doesn't even begin to describe it. She has had a f**k my life face since her come back.

It sounds like she has a lot on her young shoulders: a greedy family, pleasing sponsors, the competition, and a younger cuter version of herself to compete with.

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Maybe she is fed up with it. If my country questioned my respect because I didn't put my hand over my heart during the Canadian anthem, I would laugh.



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18 Aug 2016, 9:06 am

EXCELLENT post, Tawaki----so nice to see you!! It seems obvious that you have been following Gabby, as much as *I* have.

I said, before, that she has been sitting stone-faced, during / after a teammate's routine, and the other day, I saw Aly Raisman, as she (Aly) stood applauding / cheering for a teammate, sneak a sideways glance at Gabby who SAT, stone-faced, and not applauding. I feel, no matter WHAT, an athlete should show good sportsmanship (I'm not talking about the hand-over-heart thing, now). It seems impossible that she could think she could get-away with it, as she's already been called-out, on it----AND, that seems to confirm what I was thinking about her tearful apology (that she only did it, to make all the negative comments about her, go away); because if she TRULY / GENUINELY meant it, she would've, at least, ACTED supportive of her teammates, afterwards.

Here's the thing..... Gabby is the FIRST black, female gymnast to win gold at the Olympics----AND, the first gymnast to win gold in the "Individual All-around", and team, in the SAME Olympics----nobody can EVER take that away from her; there can ever only be ONE first! I SOOOOO wish she could put all of her thoughts / focus, on THAT----I worry that she's totally ruined what she COULD'VE gotten out of this experience, and will really regret it, sometime down the road.

I imagine she's made MILLIONS (she was also Executive Producer on the TV movie about her, and her reality show)----BUT, if her family is blowing it all.....

I really feel, for her.....






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18 Aug 2016, 1:41 pm

androbot01 wrote:
Tawaki wrote:
Gabby has looked like she'd rather take bullet to the head than compete. Disinterested doesn't even begin to describe it. She has had a f**k my life face since her come back.

It sounds like she has a lot on her young shoulders: a greedy family, pleasing sponsors, the competition, and a younger cuter version of herself to compete with.

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Maybe she is fed up with it. If my country questioned my respect because I didn't put my hand over my heart during the Canadian anthem, I would laugh.


They're both gorgeous and talented young women.


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20 Aug 2016, 1:53 am

Your white, founding fathers were secessionists, who did not expect you to give a Bellamy salute, under petty tyranny.

Are we questioning her patriotism, because of her skin color?



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20 Aug 2016, 3:15 am

Who cares? She didn't do it so she gets criticized and then she apologized for it. She's not a victim, she's a gold medal winning Olympic athlete. Something liberals seem to have a tendency to do is to use minorities as mascots for their narratives and virtue signalling, Gabby Douglas is an actual person not a color!



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20 Aug 2016, 3:52 am

much ado about nothing...

Gabby won a gold medal, it's disgraceful for her fellow (I suspect white republican) Americans to use one minor lack of symbolic gesture to attack the poor girl.