Who will be U.S. President on 01/21/17 ?

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The US Prexie on 01/21/17 ?
Hillary Clinton 47%  47%  [ 21 ]
Donald Trump 44%  44%  [ 20 ]
Another (please say whom) 9%  9%  [ 4 ]
Total votes : 45

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26 Sep 2016, 12:33 pm

None of the above. I can not, in good conscience vote for any of the candidates.



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26 Sep 2016, 1:53 pm

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However, if for some reason Trump wins, I don't see any doomsday scenarios happening. He'll have too much opposition from the Dems and Never-Trump GOPers in Congress for them to happen.


I see him launching nukes in a fit of anger as plausable. I can see bullies bieng empowered by his win as plausable. Considering his close ties to Bob Wright I can envision aversive ABA and moves to segregate autistics in schools and elsewhere bieng implented by Executive Order if a high profile attack is perpetrated by an autistic as possible because the never Trump conservatives and regressive left won't oppose it.

If Hillary wins I see hope of change for the next 8 years bieng crushed and the doubling down of the Status Quo and the lefts disdain for "redneck" America being seemingly validated especially if it is a solid win and Dems gain control of one or more of the Houses. This will mean an increase in mandated political correctness and SJW bullying. This while not a doomsday scenario I view as really really bad.

If Hillary wins a especially a close election with a Republican Congress a serious impeachment effort begins immediately. I would suspect plans are already well underway. Political paralysis and violence increase and the enemies of America will attempt to take advantage. America will then need to prove we are still tough and this can deteriorate into war with use of chemical, biological weapons and crippling cyber warfare.

I can not see anything remotely good coming out this election and the overall political divide. Nearing 60, I have had my share of autistic negative thought loops, but never have I been remotely this scared.


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26 Sep 2016, 2:40 pm

ASPartOfMe wrote:
Tim_Tex wrote:
However, if for some reason Trump wins, I don't see any doomsday scenarios happening. He'll have too much opposition from the Dems and Never-Trump GOPers in Congress for them to happen.


I see him launching nukes in a fit of anger as plausable. I can see bullies bieng empowered by his win as plausable. Considering his close ties to Bob Wright I can envision aversive ABA and moves to segregate autistics in schools and elsewhere bieng implented by Executive Order if a high profile attack is perpetrated by an autistic as possible because the never Trump conservatives and regressive left won't oppose it.

If Hillary wins I see hope of change for the next 8 years bieng crushed and the doubling down of the Status Quo and the lefts disdain for "redneck" America being seemingly validated especially if it is a solid win and Dems gain control of one or more of the Houses. This will mean an increase in mandated political correctness and SJW bullying. This while not a doomsday scenario I view as really really bad.

If Hillary wins a especially a close election with a Republican Congress a serious impeachment effort begins immediately. I would suspect plans are already well underway. Political paralysis and violence increase and the enemies of America will attempt to take advantage. America will then need to prove we are still tough and this can deteriorate into war with use of chemical, biological weapons and crippling cyber warfare.

I can not see anything remotely good coming out this election and the overall political divide. Nearing 60, I have had my share of autistic negative thought loops, but never have I been remotely this scared.


I like to think the Republicans would have learned their lesson from their failed machinations against Clinton's husband, and Obama. Then again, the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over, with the same failed result.


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26 Sep 2016, 5:36 pm

...At least two people here IIRC have posited a Trump popular win , but electoral loss .
Also , elsewhere on this board , a woman imagined that a Trump victory might be nullified by elected Trump electors refusing to vote for him , and said she'd seen someone w/an electoral vote saying that he would not vote for Trump , no matter what . I asked her to tell me more , who this " no-Trump " elector was , where he was , I have seen no response from her - Plus , I stated why I thought a " Manchurian elector " nullification scenario such as she outlined was very unlikely .
What is this " anticipation of persecution " on the part of Trump-ites ?
As it happens , I believe the reason for the 2000 Republican win-with-less electorals was that , after the disputed Florida results went G.O.P. , the Republicans had won the electorals of the three ( one House member " states , whose voter's votes count for more than those in standardly populated states .
I think those states still lean Republican and not Never_Trump Repub either !
ASPM , why do you think that the Democrats are more split than the Republicans ? The party-level Bernieites pretty much universially got behind Hillary after the convention , even if sorta grudgingly/grumblingly :( .


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26 Sep 2016, 5:51 pm

i wish the hell we were all in Canada debating who would win for the PM. :| I can hardly think of a more depressing spectacle as what will happen tonight. I think poor lester holt [he's a GOPer' btw] will be run over by those two.



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26 Sep 2016, 6:06 pm

...Whom be Lester ? :?:
I won't see-or-hear the debates , I suppose :( .




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i wish the hell we were all in Canada debating who would win for the PM. :| I can hardly think of a more depressing spectacle as what will happen tonight. I think poor lester holt [he's a GOPer' btw] will be run over by those two.


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26 Sep 2016, 6:08 pm

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...Whom be Lester ? :?: I won't see-or-hear the debates , I suppose :( .


he be the solitary moderator who has to somehow ride herd on those two oversized personalities.



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26 Sep 2016, 6:17 pm

....Thank you . The fact that I all-but-certainly CANNOT see , or hear , the debates shows how " cut off from much of the " normal " world my position regularly has me :cry: :( .



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ASS-P wrote:
...Whom be Lester ? :?: I won't see-or-hear the debates , I suppose :( .


he be the solitary moderator who has to somehow ride herd on those two oversized personalities.


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26 Sep 2016, 6:19 pm

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....Thank you . The fact that I all-but-certainly CANNOT see , or hear , the debates shows how " cut off from much of the " normal " world my position regularly has me :cry: :( .


you won't be missing much more than can be observed by peering under a big rock. btw, lester is the host of NBC nightly news during the week.



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26 Sep 2016, 7:00 pm

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ASPM , why do you think that the Democrats are more split than the Republicans ? The party-level Bernieites pretty much universially got behind Hillary after the convention , even if sorta grudgingly/grumblingly :( .

The never Trump Republicans are still Republicans and all the factions of the party are united by a visceral hatred of the Clintons. That is why I expect an immediate impeachment effort.

The Bernie people are younger and less loyal to the party, more driven by idealism then the Republicans.


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26 Sep 2016, 9:04 pm

Gov. Martinez, if you're listening, please run in 2020!


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26 Sep 2016, 9:25 pm

...Gov. of TX ?




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Gov. Martinez, if you're listening, please run in 2020!


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26 Sep 2016, 9:42 pm

ASS-P wrote:
...Gov. of TX ?




Tim_Tex wrote:
Gov. Martinez, if you're listening, please run in 2020!


New Mexico


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26 Sep 2016, 9:46 pm

I dunno..... :shrug:



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28 Sep 2016, 9:01 am

I want Hillary to win but I think Trump will win.



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28 Sep 2016, 5:41 pm

everything is pointing to him phuqing us over starting next January.