Is Barron Trump Autistic? #StopTheBullying

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25 Nov 2016, 11:04 am

Yeah, I've been thinking he's autistic, since the first time I saw him (and posted it a couple of times on here)----and, have ALSO not been able to keep my eyes off of him. I'm also thinking that's why his father has an interest in Autism, as much as he does (I didn't think it was something in which just a "regular" businessman would take such great interest).

Also, when I got the thought that he was autistic, a lightbulb went-off in my head, and I thought "Ohhhhhh, I'm wondering if PE Trump has Asperger's...", since it seems to run in families, sometimes. I was thinking "Well, that would certainly explain the blurting-out of inappropriate things / saying things at inappropriate times and then, seemingly, truly wondering why what he said was wrong"----then, IMO, there's a whole myriad of other things, like: special interests / hyper-focus in building, wanting to be alone in his room in military school, instead of leading; finding fault with everybody, etc.; I can't remember what-all the things were, that I was thinking-of at-the-time.....

As for people talking about this, I don't see a problem with it----first-of-all, I don't see any of us being disrespectful, and we're only sharing our opinions / thoughts; secondly, yeah none of us are medical professionals----but, quite frankly, I often will consider the opinion of someone who LIVES something (thereby, considering them an expert), BEFORE I will consider a medical professional's opinion (that's not to say that I wouldn't ALSO consider a medical professional's opinion, though).





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25 Nov 2016, 11:14 am

As for what Rosie O'Donnell said (found in the thread, linked in THIS thread): I don't have a problem with what she said, and I DON'T think she was being cruel or anything like that. I'm not a fan of Rosie's----and I feel this is just yet another bandwagon for her to jump-on, to say "Hey----look at ME----here's me championing a cause"----BUT, if it brings more public awareness to Autism, and is done respectfully and without bias, what's the problem!!









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25 Nov 2016, 11:31 am

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...what if his beloved youngest child is autistic? How would that effect things. Better? Worse? Not at all?

Oops, I apologize, Ezra----I forgot to address the REAL question, in the OP.....

Because, like I said before, PE Trump seems to have an extraordinary interest in Autism, I'm thinking it WOULD affect things insofar as he might speak about it, a little more often----and, I'm thinking / hoping that would make things BETTER (assuming he doesn't say something, like: "Everybody should give all their money to Autism Speaks"----but, because they fired him, maybe he won't).





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25 Nov 2016, 11:45 am

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...like I said before, PE Trump seems to have an extraordinary interest in Autism....

Indeed, and well beyond that of the ordinary autism hecklers from all political parties. When someone of his stature uses the words and phrases I have heard him use about autism, there are several "dog whistles" in his statements that might end up being quite supportive.

Maybe Barron and his mom will be sporting some red high-top sneakers during the next Walk In Red campaign for autism acceptance! Hehe. :)


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25 Nov 2016, 12:00 pm

Also, Melania says the thing she wants to do as First Lady is to raise awareness of online bullying among children. It's hard not to wonder if this is close to her heart because her computer savvy son might have already been dealing with it from peers even before all this.

As for the speculation of "IF" it were to be a fact that Barron has autism, then I should jolly well hope that it would mean having a father in such a position of power and influence over not just policy but public opinion, might help improve life for people on the spectrum.

That is, as long as another "if" is in place: that they go public in the first place. I have a feeling that even if he has autism, going public might not happen, otherwise, they probably would have already, with "My son" etc instead of what Trump did say.



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25 Nov 2016, 12:11 pm

No matter what the greater good it is never ok to use children to score political points. There is a high risk of exacerbating or creating mental problems for the child.


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25 Nov 2016, 12:13 pm

BirdInFlight wrote:
...I have a feeling that even if he has autism, going public might not happen, otherwise, they probably would have already, with "My son" etc instead of what Trump did say.

Until now, that has worked well. But, remember how the media gained access (however infrequent) to the Obama daughters. Also, consider how quickly Barron and his mother might choose to be "interviewed" about autism under the guise of her anti-bullying campaign. This could all come together especially if denial is no longer an option within the White House.


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25 Nov 2016, 12:14 pm

ASPartOfMe wrote:
No matter what the greater good it is never ok to use children to score political points. There is a high risk of exacerbating or creating mental problems for the child.



There is no shame in being like Rosie O'Donnell. This is actually an excellent time, to bring attention, to the epidemic. :wink:

Please, lovingly use her as a virtue signal. She must be helped.

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25 Nov 2016, 12:18 pm

friedmacguffins wrote:
There is no shame in being like Rosie O'Donnell. This is actually an excellent time, to bring attention, to the epidemic. :wink:

Indeed. It might offer some form of détente between the two extremes within the world (or, at least, nation) about the matter of autism. Who knows? Maybe more ideas, more facts, more dialogue and more understanding could bring about some much needed change.


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25 Nov 2016, 12:29 pm

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de·tente
the easing of hostility or strained relations, especially between countries.

Quote:
in·cur·sion
1 : a hostile entrance into a territory : raid.
2 : an entering in or into (as an activity or undertaking) <his only incursion into the arts>


I am being playful, here, but, with all due respect, nt people more-typically create entanglements, to make themselves seem useful.



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25 Nov 2016, 12:33 pm

friedmacguffins wrote:
Quote:
de·tente
noun: détente; plural noun: détentes; noun: detente; plural noun: detentes

the easing of hostility or strained relations, especially between countries.

Quote:
in·cur·sion
1 : a hostile entrance into a territory : raid.
2 : an entering in or into (as an activity or undertaking) <his only incursion into the arts>

I am being playful, here, but, with all due respect, nt people more-typically create entanglements, to make themselves seem useful.

Yes. Thanks for the correction. I had meant to describe what I did as the resolution of a détente after such political incursions. Keep me on my toes! Hehe. :lol:


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25 Nov 2016, 12:44 pm

ASPartOfMe wrote:
No matter what the greater good it is never ok to use children to score political points. There is a high risk of exacerbating or creating mental problems for the child.
No no no, you misunderstand, or I didn't articulate my intention properly. I don't mean to say he should use Barron to score political points, AT ALL.

What I'm trying to say is, IF Trump actually does have an autistic child, and IF he knows it (ie, Barron is diagnosed etc), I'm saying that this, in an ideal world, should make Trump a leader who MIGHT possibly be an autism-friendly one in the form of trying to get more things in place that make life better for autists. Even if he never says he has an child with autism.

If he knows "from the inside" what spectrum people face, that's got to impact his policies where they affect autism issues.

That's what I'm saying.

And if Barron is autistic and IF that goes public, again, I'm not talking about "scoring political points" -- I'm talking about public perception of what an autistic person is, changing just by the fact that they might then be aware that they are seeing a lot of someone on the spectrum -- and witnessing him, for example, getting to go to college, etc.

I'm not talking about Trump using his son, I'm talking about the way that anytime someone enough in the public eye says "THIS is autism" it's the general public who might get a better idea of it instead of demonizing it.

Having said that, I want to be very clear that it's not the same thing as saying I think Barron is autistic and I think it should be made public.

I'm just saying that IF all the IFS were there it might be a good thing for autism awareness.

However, the biggest IF is if the child himself is not going to be okay with disclosure.

My main point is even WITHOUT disclosure, if Trump has an autistic child I would hope it impacts policies he makes where they affect the world of autism. That's all.

I would never advocate what you're suggesting.

By the way, why do I always get to be the only one who gets grossly misunderstood, told off and the dirty scapegoat in a whole thread where nobody else it getting that?

Your post sounds like you think I'm a monster calling for the boy to hauled out on a show pony.

NOT what I'm saying.



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25 Nov 2016, 1:04 pm

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What I'm trying to say is, IF Trump actually does have an autistic child, and IF he knows it (ie, Barron is diagnosed etc), I'm saying that this, in an ideal world, should make Trump a leader who MIGHT possibly be an autism-friendly one in the form of trying to get more things in place that make life better for autists. Even if he never says he has an child with autism.

:heart: Interesting speculation.



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25 Nov 2016, 2:08 pm

BirdInFlight wrote:
Also, Melania says the thing she wants to do as First Lady is to raise awareness of online bullying among children. It's hard not to wonder if this is close to her heart because her computer savvy son might have already been dealing with it from peers even before all this.

That is, as long as another "if" is in place: that they go public in the first place. I have a feeling that even if he has autism, going public might not happen, otherwise, they probably would have already, with "My son" etc instead of what Trump did say.

Oh, yeah----EXCELLENT point about why Melania chose cyber bullying----I had forgotten about that, and it could certainly be another indicator!! (Note to the thread: NONE of these things that we have mentioned, that could POSSIBLY point to Barron having Autism, are an indication, SINGULARLY----but, collectively... Hmmm.....)

As for them probably going public, already: I'm thinking that's something that even PE Trump was able to manage NOT blurting-out, inappropriately (meaning, to get him, votes). I'm thinking that PE Trump feels that once he's settled in the White House, if he speaks on it, then, that's okay.





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25 Nov 2016, 2:10 pm

I wouldn't trust a damn thing Trump says on autism. He thinks vaccines cause them and I'm pretty sure his VP thinks the same (wouldn't be surprised if the rest of his dumbass family thinks the same)

He'll do more harm then good, notably by going after vaccines.



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25 Nov 2016, 2:14 pm

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...like I said before, PE Trump seems to have an extraordinary interest in Autism....

Indeed, and well beyond that of the ordinary autism hecklers from all political parties. When someone of his stature uses the words and phrases I have heard him use about autism, there are several "dog whistles" in his statements that might end up being quite supportive.

Maybe Barron and his mom will be sporting some red high-top sneakers during the next Walk In Red campaign for autism acceptance! Hehe. :)

I AGREE!! (It's always nice to see you, my buddy!!)

I think it would be SUPER cool, if they were in the Walk!!





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