Republicans targetting endangered species act
22 Jan 2017, 11:15 am
Kraichgauer wrote:
AspieUtah wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
AspieUtah wrote:
The Unleasher wrote:
Sometimes I wish everyone would just be Centrist. Both parties are corrupt, whether you want to admit it or not. Which is why, when I get older, I won't identify with either. I miss the Whig party.
Yep. Liberals squeal over endangered species of animals, and conservatives squeal over a different kind of endangered species, namely babies including those who are black and are otherwise aborted more often than not.
I support protecting all species; but, if my hand is forced, I would support protecting humans ... though many of them make me reconsider my opinion frequently.
I'm sorry, but I simply don't believe more babies are aborted than who are born, regardless of race, even if you conflate miscarriage with abortion.
it is true, at least on some level, even left wing Politifact agrees
http://www.politifact.com/texas/stateme ... aborted-n/
there are a shocking amount of abortions in this country, whether or not it's over 50% of pregnancies doesn't matter since it's still unacceptably high whatever the number is which is at least 1 out of 3 pregnancies.
Even if that is true for New York, it doesn't mean it's true for anywhere else.
This is what I was referring to:
Quote:
Minority women constitute only about 13% of the female population (age 15-44) in the United States, but they underwent approximately 36% of the abortions.
According to the Alan Guttmacher Institute, black women are more than 5 times as likely as white women to have an abortion
On average, 1,876 black babies are aborted every day in the United States.
This incidence of abortion has resulted in a tremendous loss of life. It has been estimated that since 1973 Black women have had about 16 million abortions. Michael Novak had calculated "Since the number of current living Blacks (in the U.S.) is 36 million, the missing 16 million represents an enormous loss, for without abortion, America's Black community would now number 52 million persons. It would be 36 percent larger than it is. Abortion has swept through the Black community like a scythe, cutting down every fourth member."
A highly significant 1993 Howard University study showed that African American women over age 50 were 4.7 times more likely to get breast cancer if they had had any abortions compared to women who had not had any abortions.... http://www.blackgenocide.org/black.html
According to the Alan Guttmacher Institute, black women are more than 5 times as likely as white women to have an abortion
On average, 1,876 black babies are aborted every day in the United States.
This incidence of abortion has resulted in a tremendous loss of life. It has been estimated that since 1973 Black women have had about 16 million abortions. Michael Novak had calculated "Since the number of current living Blacks (in the U.S.) is 36 million, the missing 16 million represents an enormous loss, for without abortion, America's Black community would now number 52 million persons. It would be 36 percent larger than it is. Abortion has swept through the Black community like a scythe, cutting down every fourth member."
A highly significant 1993 Howard University study showed that African American women over age 50 were 4.7 times more likely to get breast cancer if they had had any abortions compared to women who had not had any abortions.... http://www.blackgenocide.org/black.html
But, even if the national statistics don't hold up, it reminds me of two Holocaust survivors arguing over their respective populations who had died at the hands of the German Reich: "What," says one of the men, "...are you into real estate?" (refering to the relative size of each man's described cemetery). The point is a huge number of abortions are performed in the United States on a specific race of babies. Is there no concern for that fact? Maybe, we should protect the next 16 million aborted black babies in the same way that some want to protect endangered animal species.
The difference between the Holocaust and abortion is that no one is forcing black women to have abortions. If you want to stop abortion of black babies, then the pro-life movement should actually try to connect with black Americans.
They have, and here is an example of the response (at least from a supporter of such abortions): ( http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... abies.html ).
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22 Jan 2017, 11:30 am
AspieUtah wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
AspieUtah wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
AspieUtah wrote:
The Unleasher wrote:
Sometimes I wish everyone would just be Centrist. Both parties are corrupt, whether you want to admit it or not. Which is why, when I get older, I won't identify with either. I miss the Whig party.
Yep. Liberals squeal over endangered species of animals, and conservatives squeal over a different kind of endangered species, namely babies including those who are black and are otherwise aborted more often than not.
I support protecting all species; but, if my hand is forced, I would support protecting humans ... though many of them make me reconsider my opinion frequently.
I'm sorry, but I simply don't believe more babies are aborted than who are born, regardless of race, even if you conflate miscarriage with abortion.
it is true, at least on some level, even left wing Politifact agrees
http://www.politifact.com/texas/stateme ... aborted-n/
there are a shocking amount of abortions in this country, whether or not it's over 50% of pregnancies doesn't matter since it's still unacceptably high whatever the number is which is at least 1 out of 3 pregnancies.
Even if that is true for New York, it doesn't mean it's true for anywhere else.
This is what I was referring to:
Quote:
Minority women constitute only about 13% of the female population (age 15-44) in the United States, but they underwent approximately 36% of the abortions.
According to the Alan Guttmacher Institute, black women are more than 5 times as likely as white women to have an abortion
On average, 1,876 black babies are aborted every day in the United States.
This incidence of abortion has resulted in a tremendous loss of life. It has been estimated that since 1973 Black women have had about 16 million abortions. Michael Novak had calculated "Since the number of current living Blacks (in the U.S.) is 36 million, the missing 16 million represents an enormous loss, for without abortion, America's Black community would now number 52 million persons. It would be 36 percent larger than it is. Abortion has swept through the Black community like a scythe, cutting down every fourth member."
A highly significant 1993 Howard University study showed that African American women over age 50 were 4.7 times more likely to get breast cancer if they had had any abortions compared to women who had not had any abortions.... http://www.blackgenocide.org/black.html
According to the Alan Guttmacher Institute, black women are more than 5 times as likely as white women to have an abortion
On average, 1,876 black babies are aborted every day in the United States.
This incidence of abortion has resulted in a tremendous loss of life. It has been estimated that since 1973 Black women have had about 16 million abortions. Michael Novak had calculated "Since the number of current living Blacks (in the U.S.) is 36 million, the missing 16 million represents an enormous loss, for without abortion, America's Black community would now number 52 million persons. It would be 36 percent larger than it is. Abortion has swept through the Black community like a scythe, cutting down every fourth member."
A highly significant 1993 Howard University study showed that African American women over age 50 were 4.7 times more likely to get breast cancer if they had had any abortions compared to women who had not had any abortions.... http://www.blackgenocide.org/black.html
But, even if the national statistics don't hold up, it reminds me of two Holocaust survivors arguing over their respective populations who had died at the hands of the German Reich: "What," says one of the men, "...are you into real estate?" (refering to the relative size of each man's described cemetery). The point is a huge number of abortions are performed in the United States on a specific race of babies. Is there no concern for that fact? Maybe, we should protect the next 16 million aborted black babies in the same way that some want to protect endangered animal species.
The difference between the Holocaust and abortion is that no one is forcing black women to have abortions. If you want to stop abortion of black babies, then the pro-life movement should actually try to connect with black Americans.
They have, and here is an example of the response (at least from a supporter of such abortions): ( http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... abies.html ).
That doctor was specifically a North Carolina cracker, and was by no surprise a racist.
The pro-life movement might actually make more headway with African Americans if they stopped parroting the GOP's calls to cut the social safety net which poor mothers need to care for their children.
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22 Jan 2017, 11:55 am
Kraichgauer wrote:
AspieUtah wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
AspieUtah wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
AspieUtah wrote:
The Unleasher wrote:
Sometimes I wish everyone would just be Centrist. Both parties are corrupt, whether you want to admit it or not. Which is why, when I get older, I won't identify with either. I miss the Whig party.
Yep. Liberals squeal over endangered species of animals, and conservatives squeal over a different kind of endangered species, namely babies including those who are black and are otherwise aborted more often than not.
I support protecting all species; but, if my hand is forced, I would support protecting humans ... though many of them make me reconsider my opinion frequently.
I'm sorry, but I simply don't believe more babies are aborted than who are born, regardless of race, even if you conflate miscarriage with abortion.
it is true, at least on some level, even left wing Politifact agrees
http://www.politifact.com/texas/stateme ... aborted-n/
there are a shocking amount of abortions in this country, whether or not it's over 50% of pregnancies doesn't matter since it's still unacceptably high whatever the number is which is at least 1 out of 3 pregnancies.
Even if that is true for New York, it doesn't mean it's true for anywhere else.
This is what I was referring to:
Quote:
Minority women constitute only about 13% of the female population (age 15-44) in the United States, but they underwent approximately 36% of the abortions.
According to the Alan Guttmacher Institute, black women are more than 5 times as likely as white women to have an abortion
On average, 1,876 black babies are aborted every day in the United States.
This incidence of abortion has resulted in a tremendous loss of life. It has been estimated that since 1973 Black women have had about 16 million abortions. Michael Novak had calculated "Since the number of current living Blacks (in the U.S.) is 36 million, the missing 16 million represents an enormous loss, for without abortion, America's Black community would now number 52 million persons. It would be 36 percent larger than it is. Abortion has swept through the Black community like a scythe, cutting down every fourth member."
A highly significant 1993 Howard University study showed that African American women over age 50 were 4.7 times more likely to get breast cancer if they had had any abortions compared to women who had not had any abortions.... http://www.blackgenocide.org/black.html
According to the Alan Guttmacher Institute, black women are more than 5 times as likely as white women to have an abortion
On average, 1,876 black babies are aborted every day in the United States.
This incidence of abortion has resulted in a tremendous loss of life. It has been estimated that since 1973 Black women have had about 16 million abortions. Michael Novak had calculated "Since the number of current living Blacks (in the U.S.) is 36 million, the missing 16 million represents an enormous loss, for without abortion, America's Black community would now number 52 million persons. It would be 36 percent larger than it is. Abortion has swept through the Black community like a scythe, cutting down every fourth member."
A highly significant 1993 Howard University study showed that African American women over age 50 were 4.7 times more likely to get breast cancer if they had had any abortions compared to women who had not had any abortions.... http://www.blackgenocide.org/black.html
But, even if the national statistics don't hold up, it reminds me of two Holocaust survivors arguing over their respective populations who had died at the hands of the German Reich: "What," says one of the men, "...are you into real estate?" (refering to the relative size of each man's described cemetery). The point is a huge number of abortions are performed in the United States on a specific race of babies. Is there no concern for that fact? Maybe, we should protect the next 16 million aborted black babies in the same way that some want to protect endangered animal species.
The difference between the Holocaust and abortion is that no one is forcing black women to have abortions. If you want to stop abortion of black babies, then the pro-life movement should actually try to connect with black Americans.
They have, and here is an example of the response (at least from a supporter of such abortions): ( http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... abies.html ).
That doctor was specifically a North Carolina cracker, and was by no surprise a racist.
The pro-life movement might actually make more headway with African Americans if they stopped parroting the GOP's calls to cut the social safety net which poor mothers need to care for their children.
According to the Pew Research Center ( http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/20 ... -abortion/ ), the African Methodist Episcopal (AME) Church, the Assemblies of God National Black Fellowship and the Southern Baptist Convention, among others, enjoy disproportionate numbers of black members and are opposed to abortion. It seems to me, then, that there are already several high-profile anti-abortion groups within the American black community. Yet, their efforts to affect a reduction of the number of black abortions performed appear to be minimal.
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22 Jan 2017, 10:45 pm
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Kraichgauer wrote:
The pro-life movement might actually make more headway with African Americans if they stopped parroting the GOP's calls to cut the social safety net which poor mothers need to care for their children.
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Thank you for your support.
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22 Jan 2017, 10:52 pm
AspieUtah wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
AspieUtah wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
AspieUtah wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
AspieUtah wrote:
The Unleasher wrote:
Sometimes I wish everyone would just be Centrist. Both parties are corrupt, whether you want to admit it or not. Which is why, when I get older, I won't identify with either. I miss the Whig party.
Yep. Liberals squeal over endangered species of animals, and conservatives squeal over a different kind of endangered species, namely babies including those who are black and are otherwise aborted more often than not.
I support protecting all species; but, if my hand is forced, I would support protecting humans ... though many of them make me reconsider my opinion frequently.
I'm sorry, but I simply don't believe more babies are aborted than who are born, regardless of race, even if you conflate miscarriage with abortion.
it is true, at least on some level, even left wing Politifact agrees
http://www.politifact.com/texas/stateme ... aborted-n/
there are a shocking amount of abortions in this country, whether or not it's over 50% of pregnancies doesn't matter since it's still unacceptably high whatever the number is which is at least 1 out of 3 pregnancies.
Even if that is true for New York, it doesn't mean it's true for anywhere else.
This is what I was referring to:
Quote:
Minority women constitute only about 13% of the female population (age 15-44) in the United States, but they underwent approximately 36% of the abortions.
According to the Alan Guttmacher Institute, black women are more than 5 times as likely as white women to have an abortion
On average, 1,876 black babies are aborted every day in the United States.
This incidence of abortion has resulted in a tremendous loss of life. It has been estimated that since 1973 Black women have had about 16 million abortions. Michael Novak had calculated "Since the number of current living Blacks (in the U.S.) is 36 million, the missing 16 million represents an enormous loss, for without abortion, America's Black community would now number 52 million persons. It would be 36 percent larger than it is. Abortion has swept through the Black community like a scythe, cutting down every fourth member."
A highly significant 1993 Howard University study showed that African American women over age 50 were 4.7 times more likely to get breast cancer if they had had any abortions compared to women who had not had any abortions.... http://www.blackgenocide.org/black.html
According to the Alan Guttmacher Institute, black women are more than 5 times as likely as white women to have an abortion
On average, 1,876 black babies are aborted every day in the United States.
This incidence of abortion has resulted in a tremendous loss of life. It has been estimated that since 1973 Black women have had about 16 million abortions. Michael Novak had calculated "Since the number of current living Blacks (in the U.S.) is 36 million, the missing 16 million represents an enormous loss, for without abortion, America's Black community would now number 52 million persons. It would be 36 percent larger than it is. Abortion has swept through the Black community like a scythe, cutting down every fourth member."
A highly significant 1993 Howard University study showed that African American women over age 50 were 4.7 times more likely to get breast cancer if they had had any abortions compared to women who had not had any abortions.... http://www.blackgenocide.org/black.html
But, even if the national statistics don't hold up, it reminds me of two Holocaust survivors arguing over their respective populations who had died at the hands of the German Reich: "What," says one of the men, "...are you into real estate?" (refering to the relative size of each man's described cemetery). The point is a huge number of abortions are performed in the United States on a specific race of babies. Is there no concern for that fact? Maybe, we should protect the next 16 million aborted black babies in the same way that some want to protect endangered animal species.
The difference between the Holocaust and abortion is that no one is forcing black women to have abortions. If you want to stop abortion of black babies, then the pro-life movement should actually try to connect with black Americans.
They have, and here is an example of the response (at least from a supporter of such abortions): ( http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... abies.html ).
That doctor was specifically a North Carolina cracker, and was by no surprise a racist.
The pro-life movement might actually make more headway with African Americans if they stopped parroting the GOP's calls to cut the social safety net which poor mothers need to care for their children.
According to the Pew Research Center ( http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/20 ... -abortion/ ), the African Methodist Episcopal (AME) Church, the Assemblies of God National Black Fellowship and the Southern Baptist Convention, among others, enjoy disproportionate numbers of black members and are opposed to abortion. It seems to me, then, that there are already several high-profile anti-abortion groups within the American black community. Yet, their efforts to affect a reduction of the number of black abortions performed appear to be minimal.
Even so, it's still black women making these choices, not someone else. And despite belonging to conservative religious institutions, most blacks are still socially liberal. Hell, I belong to the Lutheran Church Missouri Synod - hardly a bastion of liberalism - and I'm politically liberal.
And as so many white conservatives claim too many blacks are on welfare, you'd think most of them would be secretly pleased to be rid of children they call leaches.
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23 Jan 2017, 7:35 am
Kraichgauer wrote:
AspieUtah wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
AspieUtah wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
AspieUtah wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
AspieUtah wrote:
The Unleasher wrote:
Sometimes I wish everyone would just be Centrist. Both parties are corrupt, whether you want to admit it or not. Which is why, when I get older, I won't identify with either. I miss the Whig party.
Yep. Liberals squeal over endangered species of animals, and conservatives squeal over a different kind of endangered species, namely babies including those who are black and are otherwise aborted more often than not.
I support protecting all species; but, if my hand is forced, I would support protecting humans ... though many of them make me reconsider my opinion frequently.
I'm sorry, but I simply don't believe more babies are aborted than who are born, regardless of race, even if you conflate miscarriage with abortion.
it is true, at least on some level, even left wing Politifact agrees
http://www.politifact.com/texas/stateme ... aborted-n/
there are a shocking amount of abortions in this country, whether or not it's over 50% of pregnancies doesn't matter since it's still unacceptably high whatever the number is which is at least 1 out of 3 pregnancies.
Even if that is true for New York, it doesn't mean it's true for anywhere else.
This is what I was referring to:
Quote:
Minority women constitute only about 13% of the female population (age 15-44) in the United States, but they underwent approximately 36% of the abortions.
According to the Alan Guttmacher Institute, black women are more than 5 times as likely as white women to have an abortion
On average, 1,876 black babies are aborted every day in the United States.
This incidence of abortion has resulted in a tremendous loss of life. It has been estimated that since 1973 Black women have had about 16 million abortions. Michael Novak had calculated "Since the number of current living Blacks (in the U.S.) is 36 million, the missing 16 million represents an enormous loss, for without abortion, America's Black community would now number 52 million persons. It would be 36 percent larger than it is. Abortion has swept through the Black community like a scythe, cutting down every fourth member."
A highly significant 1993 Howard University study showed that African American women over age 50 were 4.7 times more likely to get breast cancer if they had had any abortions compared to women who had not had any abortions.... http://www.blackgenocide.org/black.html
According to the Alan Guttmacher Institute, black women are more than 5 times as likely as white women to have an abortion
On average, 1,876 black babies are aborted every day in the United States.
This incidence of abortion has resulted in a tremendous loss of life. It has been estimated that since 1973 Black women have had about 16 million abortions. Michael Novak had calculated "Since the number of current living Blacks (in the U.S.) is 36 million, the missing 16 million represents an enormous loss, for without abortion, America's Black community would now number 52 million persons. It would be 36 percent larger than it is. Abortion has swept through the Black community like a scythe, cutting down every fourth member."
A highly significant 1993 Howard University study showed that African American women over age 50 were 4.7 times more likely to get breast cancer if they had had any abortions compared to women who had not had any abortions.... http://www.blackgenocide.org/black.html
But, even if the national statistics don't hold up, it reminds me of two Holocaust survivors arguing over their respective populations who had died at the hands of the German Reich: "What," says one of the men, "...are you into real estate?" (refering to the relative size of each man's described cemetery). The point is a huge number of abortions are performed in the United States on a specific race of babies. Is there no concern for that fact? Maybe, we should protect the next 16 million aborted black babies in the same way that some want to protect endangered animal species.
The difference between the Holocaust and abortion is that no one is forcing black women to have abortions. If you want to stop abortion of black babies, then the pro-life movement should actually try to connect with black Americans.
They have, and here is an example of the response (at least from a supporter of such abortions): ( http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... abies.html ).
That doctor was specifically a North Carolina cracker, and was by no surprise a racist.
The pro-life movement might actually make more headway with African Americans if they stopped parroting the GOP's calls to cut the social safety net which poor mothers need to care for their children.
According to the Pew Research Center ( http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/20 ... -abortion/ ), the African Methodist Episcopal (AME) Church, the Assemblies of God National Black Fellowship and the Southern Baptist Convention, among others, enjoy disproportionate numbers of black members and are opposed to abortion. It seems to me, then, that there are already several high-profile anti-abortion groups within the American black community. Yet, their efforts to affect a reduction of the number of black abortions performed appear to be minimal.
Even so, it's still black women making these choices, not someone else. And despite belonging to conservative religious institutions, most blacks are still socially liberal. Hell, I belong to the Lutheran Church Missouri Synod - hardly a bastion of liberalism - and I'm politically liberal.
And as so many white conservatives claim too many blacks are on welfare, you'd think most of them would be secretly pleased to be rid of children they call leaches.
Oh, are we moving the goalposts again? If you have such high expectations for "white conservatives," why don't you have the same expectations of the women who can't keep their knees crossed? Unless you want to suggest such women are being raped to the tune of 16 million times over the years, there are simple choices being made daily. Now, whose choices are they when even the high-profile anti-abortion black churches are advocating the avoidance of abortion (or at least the activities that result in abortions)? It is hardly the white conservatives at that point, isn't it? After all, the black churches are trying to find a resolution.
I actually prefer our state and federal laws to provide for abortions. After all, I don't want such weighty decisions being made by those knuckleheads who can't seem to operate the DMV and post offices ably. But, I despise those who cheerlead abortion as if it is one of Francis' Holy Rites. Everybody in the chain of command leading to another abortion is at fault.
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23 Jan 2017, 4:28 pm
AspieUtah wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
AspieUtah wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
AspieUtah wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
AspieUtah wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
AspieUtah wrote:
The Unleasher wrote:
Sometimes I wish everyone would just be Centrist. Both parties are corrupt, whether you want to admit it or not. Which is why, when I get older, I won't identify with either. I miss the Whig party.
Yep. Liberals squeal over endangered species of animals, and conservatives squeal over a different kind of endangered species, namely babies including those who are black and are otherwise aborted more often than not.
I support protecting all species; but, if my hand is forced, I would support protecting humans ... though many of them make me reconsider my opinion frequently.
I'm sorry, but I simply don't believe more babies are aborted than who are born, regardless of race, even if you conflate miscarriage with abortion.
it is true, at least on some level, even left wing Politifact agrees
http://www.politifact.com/texas/stateme ... aborted-n/
there are a shocking amount of abortions in this country, whether or not it's over 50% of pregnancies doesn't matter since it's still unacceptably high whatever the number is which is at least 1 out of 3 pregnancies.
Even if that is true for New York, it doesn't mean it's true for anywhere else.
This is what I was referring to:
Quote:
Minority women constitute only about 13% of the female population (age 15-44) in the United States, but they underwent approximately 36% of the abortions.
According to the Alan Guttmacher Institute, black women are more than 5 times as likely as white women to have an abortion
On average, 1,876 black babies are aborted every day in the United States.
This incidence of abortion has resulted in a tremendous loss of life. It has been estimated that since 1973 Black women have had about 16 million abortions. Michael Novak had calculated "Since the number of current living Blacks (in the U.S.) is 36 million, the missing 16 million represents an enormous loss, for without abortion, America's Black community would now number 52 million persons. It would be 36 percent larger than it is. Abortion has swept through the Black community like a scythe, cutting down every fourth member."
A highly significant 1993 Howard University study showed that African American women over age 50 were 4.7 times more likely to get breast cancer if they had had any abortions compared to women who had not had any abortions.... http://www.blackgenocide.org/black.html
According to the Alan Guttmacher Institute, black women are more than 5 times as likely as white women to have an abortion
On average, 1,876 black babies are aborted every day in the United States.
This incidence of abortion has resulted in a tremendous loss of life. It has been estimated that since 1973 Black women have had about 16 million abortions. Michael Novak had calculated "Since the number of current living Blacks (in the U.S.) is 36 million, the missing 16 million represents an enormous loss, for without abortion, America's Black community would now number 52 million persons. It would be 36 percent larger than it is. Abortion has swept through the Black community like a scythe, cutting down every fourth member."
A highly significant 1993 Howard University study showed that African American women over age 50 were 4.7 times more likely to get breast cancer if they had had any abortions compared to women who had not had any abortions.... http://www.blackgenocide.org/black.html
But, even if the national statistics don't hold up, it reminds me of two Holocaust survivors arguing over their respective populations who had died at the hands of the German Reich: "What," says one of the men, "...are you into real estate?" (refering to the relative size of each man's described cemetery). The point is a huge number of abortions are performed in the United States on a specific race of babies. Is there no concern for that fact? Maybe, we should protect the next 16 million aborted black babies in the same way that some want to protect endangered animal species.
The difference between the Holocaust and abortion is that no one is forcing black women to have abortions. If you want to stop abortion of black babies, then the pro-life movement should actually try to connect with black Americans.
They have, and here is an example of the response (at least from a supporter of such abortions): ( http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... abies.html ).
That doctor was specifically a North Carolina cracker, and was by no surprise a racist.
The pro-life movement might actually make more headway with African Americans if they stopped parroting the GOP's calls to cut the social safety net which poor mothers need to care for their children.
According to the Pew Research Center ( http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/20 ... -abortion/ ), the African Methodist Episcopal (AME) Church, the Assemblies of God National Black Fellowship and the Southern Baptist Convention, among others, enjoy disproportionate numbers of black members and are opposed to abortion. It seems to me, then, that there are already several high-profile anti-abortion groups within the American black community. Yet, their efforts to affect a reduction of the number of black abortions performed appear to be minimal.
Even so, it's still black women making these choices, not someone else. And despite belonging to conservative religious institutions, most blacks are still socially liberal. Hell, I belong to the Lutheran Church Missouri Synod - hardly a bastion of liberalism - and I'm politically liberal.
And as so many white conservatives claim too many blacks are on welfare, you'd think most of them would be secretly pleased to be rid of children they call leaches.
Oh, are we moving the goalposts again? If you have such high expectations for "white conservatives," why don't you have the same expectations of the women who can't keep their knees crossed? Unless you want to suggest such women are being raped to the tune of 16 million times over the years, there are simple choices being made daily. Now, whose choices are they when even the high-profile anti-abortion black churches are advocating the avoidance of abortion (or at least the activities that result in abortions)? It is hardly the white conservatives at that point, isn't it? After all, the black churches are trying to find a resolution.
I actually prefer our state and federal laws to provide for abortions. After all, I don't want such weighty decisions being made by those knuckleheads who can't seem to operate the DMV and post offices ably. But, I despise those who cheerlead abortion as if it is one of Francis' Holy Rites. Everybody in the chain of command leading to another abortion is at fault.
People make mistakes, especially when it comes to such a powerful natural drive as sex.
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