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19 Apr 2017, 8:04 am

I'm totally ashamed of my white ancestors. I mean all those atrocities committed by the Swiss and the Irish....wait.



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19 Apr 2017, 9:13 am

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They're equal. People with Root's agenda are a danger to those who are on their hit list. Just as people with this shooter's agenda are a danger to who's on their hit list. And this case it's white people who are in danger.

But the white left have let themselves get brainwashed into thinking that anything even slightly resembling a pro-white statement is Neo-Nazi, alt-right, right-wing etc ad nausium and that white people basically deserve to be gunned down because they're the bad guys.


And let's remember, men who are white are pretty much Satan incarnate.

"Hate crime is suspected after a gunman kills 3 white men in downtown Fresno"
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-m ... story.html

"One group is responsible for America’s culture of violence, and it isn’t cops, black Americans, Muslims or rednecks. It’s men"
http://www.latimes.com/opinion/opinion- ... story.html

"White men must be stopped: The very future of mankind depends on it "
(and no, that's not from The Onion and wasn't posted April 1st)
http://www.salon.com/2015/12/22/white_m ... t_partner/


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19 Apr 2017, 10:30 am

kitesandtrainsandcats wrote:
EzraS wrote:
They're equal. People with Root's agenda are a danger to those who are on their hit list. Just as people with this shooter's agenda are a danger to who's on their hit list. And this case it's white people who are in danger.

But the white left have let themselves get brainwashed into thinking that anything even slightly resembling a pro-white statement is Neo-Nazi, alt-right, right-wing etc ad nausium and that white people basically deserve to be gunned down because they're the bad guys.


And let's remember, men who are white are pretty much Satan incarnate.

"Hate crime is suspected after a gunman kills 3 white men in downtown Fresno"
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-m ... story.html

"One group is responsible for America’s culture of violence, and it isn’t cops, black Americans, Muslims or rednecks. It’s men"
http://www.latimes.com/opinion/opinion- ... story.html

"White men must be stopped: The very future of mankind depends on it "
(and no, that's not from The Onion and wasn't posted April 1st)
http://www.salon.com/2015/12/22/white_m ... t_partner/


That's supposed to be the way to combat racism I suppose.



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19 Apr 2017, 10:47 am

naturalplastic wrote:
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> suspect yelled 'Allahu Akbar'
I believe that's Latin for "the motive will never be known."

Its actual translation is the confrontational: "(My/Our) God is greater (than your God)."
Hence, the reason why it's used as a battle cry.

Wrong. It simply means "God is great".

Actually, it seems YOU are wrong, naturalplastic----at least, according to the link, Robin posted:

Wiki Islam wrote:
Many Muslims and their apologists claim "Allahu Akbar" is simply the Arabic translation of a common English phrase meaning "God is great!" However, this is untrue. "Allahu Akbar" does not mean "God is great" as claimed. It actually means "Allah is greater."
https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Allahu_Akbar#Conclusion

I most definitely agree with Darmok's tongue-in-cheek definition. I'm thinking it's quite possible that alot of these so-called Islamic converts only "paint" themselves that way, because it's what's "cool" to some, right now----I mean, the guy called himself "Black Jesus", but yet, made it seem like he was Islamic, by saying "Allahu Akbar"; the dichotomy is, to say the least, amusing.





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19 Apr 2017, 12:32 pm

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But the white left have let themselves get brainwashed into thinking that anything even slightly resembling a pro-white statement is Neo-Nazi, alt-right, right-wing etc ad nausium and that white people basically deserve to be gunned down because they're the bad guys.


I am white, on the political left but don't think any of that crap you have written. I also know quite a few white lefties and they don't think like that either.



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19 Apr 2017, 1:14 pm

Coloreds have blacksploitation and pachuco stereotypes, and consider their racism to be facetious. Whites have Murdoch Murdoch.

Nazi is the new 'n' word, where people are allowed to say it about themselves, but noone else is allowed to say it.



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19 Apr 2017, 11:17 pm

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But the white left have let themselves get brainwashed into thinking that anything even slightly resembling a pro-white statement is Neo-Nazi, alt-right, right-wing etc ad nausium and that white people basically deserve to be gunned down because they're the bad guys.

The term "white" was invented around a few hundred years ago by European colonial powers. It was specifically designed as a primitive form of social engineering by the British empire to (conveniently) separate European colonists from colonial subjects and slaves on the basis of skin pigmentation which became a kind of cruel "branding".

Every highschool student probably knows this but will pretend to not acknowledge when they define themselves by these silly outdated labels like I am a "white Caucasian". Belief in being "white" is akin to a mental illness. It's amusing because 99% of the people claiming to be Caucasian have never had one ancestor from the mythical race from the Caucasus mountains and (they may be shocked to learn) have lurking in their genome a few hundred dark skinned ancestors....

On the flipside when you get loons like the one screaming death to "wh***y" and shooting down innocent white folk - he actually also suffers from the same mental illness as he thinks the world is divided into white caucasians and "darkies"

The planet has enough problems without fanatics believing they are members of a construct that is based on fantasy



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19 Apr 2017, 11:23 pm

Biscuitman wrote:
EzraS wrote:
But the white left have let themselves get brainwashed into thinking that anything even slightly resembling a pro-white statement is Neo-Nazi, alt-right, right-wing etc ad nausium and that white people basically deserve to be gunned down because they're the bad guys.


I am white, on the political left but don't think any of that crap you have written. I also know quite a few white lefties and they don't think like that either.

Apparently being civic minded and socially concerned means we are "commies" who borrow our "corrupted" ideas from Marx's Das Capital and Mao's little red book...



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20 Apr 2017, 2:04 am

Biscuitman wrote:
EzraS wrote:
But the white left have let themselves get brainwashed into thinking that anything even slightly resembling a pro-white statement is Neo-Nazi, alt-right, right-wing etc ad nausium and that white people basically deserve to be gunned down because they're the bad guys.


I am white, on the political left but don't think any of that crap you have written. I also know quite a few white lefties and they don't think like that either.


And yet that's the impression I have been given from the left. Keep in mind that the "crap" I write is a my personal interpretation of what I read overall from the left. Not what I read from the reichwingers, but what hear from the left themselves - straight from the donkey's mouth. Often I get "I'm not like that and neither is my friend". But then again I have to wonder if that's denial.



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20 Apr 2017, 2:16 am

This thread sure went to heck in a handbasket.

Local Muslim leaders condemn the shooting and decry the shooter's use of the phrase "Allahu Akbar", saying it "was not an act of God":

http://www.fresnobee.com/news/local/art ... 74529.html


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20 Apr 2017, 2:18 am

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Apparently being civic minded and socially concerned means we are "commies" who borrow our "corrupted" ideas from Marx's Das Capital and Mao's little red book...


That's too complicated for me. I just see things as they appear at face value and call it as I see it. "Civic minded and socially concerned" could be viewed as a euphemism for something less altruistic. Most people who belong to whatever, think in those terms don't they? A force of good, of righteousness, of justice et al.



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20 Apr 2017, 3:26 am

Man, I haven't been referred to as "colored" in donkey years. Where the f*ck do these racist tramps appear from on WP? Nurse Angela's womb?



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20 Apr 2017, 4:06 am

cyberdad wrote:
EzraS wrote:
But the white left have let themselves get brainwashed into thinking that anything even slightly resembling a pro-white statement is Neo-Nazi, alt-right, right-wing etc ad nausium and that white people basically deserve to be gunned down because they're the bad guys.

The term "white" was invented around a few hundred years ago by European colonial powers. It was specifically designed as a primitive form of social engineering by the British empire to (conveniently) separate European colonists from colonial subjects and slaves on the basis of skin pigmentation which became a kind of cruel "branding".

Every highschool student probably knows this but will pretend to not acknowledge when they define themselves by these silly outdated labels like I am a "white Caucasian". Belief in being "white" is akin to a mental illness. It's amusing because 99% of the people claiming to be Caucasian have never had one ancestor from the mythical race from the Caucasus mountains and (they may be shocked to learn) have lurking in their genome a few hundred dark skinned ancestors....

On the flipside when you get loons like the one screaming death to "wh***y" and shooting down innocent white folk - he actually also suffers from the same mental illness as he thinks the world is divided into white caucasians and "darkies"

The planet has enough problems without fanatics believing they are members of a construct that is based on fantasy


There's a lot of times that the etymology of a word or term doesn't reflect on how it's used currently. The word gay is often used as an example. I was reading someone telling a Christian that the word God was originally used for the pagan deity Wotan. Gospel is from the pagan term god spell. Easter is in reference to a pagan god of sex with bunnies and eggs representing procreating.

But that's not what any of it means now or how it's viewed and the origins are irrelevant when it comes to modern use.

My dad had to attend a mandatory very liberal racism awareness seminar in Seattle a few months ago. Basically it consisted of a young white feminist wearing a black lives matter pin, having them do a somewhat complex construct that ended showing how educated white males are the aggressors, oppressors, victimizers of the world and everyone else are their targets and victims. True story.

Note that the obviously very left presenter was the one who leaned heavily on the term white.



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20 Apr 2017, 4:17 am

Campin_Cat wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
the_phoenix wrote:
Darmok wrote:
> suspect yelled 'Allahu Akbar'
I believe that's Latin for "the motive will never be known."

Its actual translation is the confrontational: "(My/Our) God is greater (than your God)."
Hence, the reason why it's used as a battle cry.

Wrong. It simply means "God is great".

Actually, it seems YOU are wrong, naturalplastic----at least, according to the link, Robin posted:

Wiki Islam wrote:
Many Muslims and their apologists claim "Allahu Akbar" is simply the Arabic translation of a common English phrase meaning "God is great!" However, this is untrue. "Allahu Akbar" does not mean "God is great" as claimed. It actually means "Allah is greater."
https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Allahu_Akbar#Conclusion

I most definitely agree with Darmok's tongue-in-cheek definition. I'm thinking it's quite possible that alot of these so-called Islamic converts only "paint" themselves that way, because it's what's "cool" to some, right now----I mean, the guy called himself "Black Jesus", but yet, made it seem like he was Islamic, by saying "Allahu Akbar"; the dichotomy is, to say the least, amusing.


Okay.

God is greatER (like Jehovah he is greater than Zeus and all of the other Pagan dieties who were worshipped back when this monotheism notion got started). BFD!

Crazy nut jobs come in every color and creed (or they latch on to creeds they dont fully understand). That shouldnt be newsworthy. I guess you could force him to be cellmates with Dylann Roof if that makes you feel better! Lol!



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20 Apr 2017, 4:40 am

EzraS wrote:
But that's not what any of it means now or how it's viewed and the origins are irrelevant when it comes to modern use.

It's modern use is purely as a label. The term white has no biological meaning

EzraS wrote:
Basically it consisted of a young white feminist wearing a black lives matter pin, having them do a somewhat complex construct that ended showing how educated white males are the aggressors, oppressors, victimizers of the world and everyone else are their targets and victims. True story. Note that the obviously very left presenter was the one who leaned heavily on the term white.

Yes I had to attend one of these cultural sensitivity training programs in one of my previous jobs (except the speaker was an Australian indigenous blue eyed male). I think if you are wise you will accept it's just a sign of the times. No reasonable person is going to indulge in self-hate (I certainly don't hate being a male or a "designated" member of the dreaded "white" variety) however you come away educated about what triggers that might be insensitive to minority groups. The language is emotive but it's harmless