Republicans Ready To Fund Trump's Border Wall

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14 Jul 2017, 4:44 pm

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Y'know, as that damn wall is going to get built by impoverishing American even more, as opposed to making Mexico pay for it, it goes to show you how congressional Republicans hate brown, non-English speakers more than they love their own people.


It will provide jobs for a lot of Americans. Considering the nation increased an extra ten trillion dollars in debt from 2008 to 2016, the cost of that wall will be a drop of water in an ocean of debt. Not that I'm in favor of the thing, just sayin'

But of course it's all about them being brown instead of white. If they were white, the republicans would have fleets of limousines to shuttle all the illegal invaders over here by the millions. After all that's what Canada does for white Americans.


Chances are, it'll end up more of a fence, as a wall is impossible to see beyond to the other side - and yes, Trump was told this by the border patrol. Not that many people are needed to just put a fence; and chances are, the workers will be from Mexico.
To say that there isn't a racial element here is nonsense.


If it's just a simple fence that can be built by a handful, then how is that going to impoverish Americans? On one hand they claim it's this impossible feat of massive engineering that will cost zillions and on the other hand they're claiming it's a simple fence that will generate no jobs because a skeleton crew can erect it.

I think the racial element is nonsense based on the strictness of Canadian immigration and the strictness of crossing that boarder on both sides - by white people. Furthermore I don't think the United States would be any more welcoming to hordes of people from Bosnia, Croatia and Serbia illegally invading the US if those countries happened to be on the other side of their southern border.

It's the left that goes on the most about skin color, to an extensive degree. 9 times out of 10 that I see someone bringing up skin color, it's someone on the left.


We'd become impoverished as a nation if the Orange One were to disregard the border patrol, and actually build a wall - with American tax money. And it wouldn't be those who could afford to be taxed who'd be paying, as they'd be getting the tax cuts.
The whole idea of building a wall on the southern border is all about keeping out brown people. Why do you think Alt Right white nationalists had flocked to Trump so eagerly, early on? That, and all the talk about Mexicans being rapists, killers, and drug dealers.


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14 Jul 2017, 4:46 pm

More recently, Trump incoherently started talking about a transparent wall, so we could see on the other side. I wish I was making this up.


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14 Jul 2017, 7:52 pm

Yes I was watching a comedy program last night that was referring to his transparent wall

I think Trump got his idea from Netflix after watching the "Dome".



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15 Jul 2017, 1:38 am

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Yes I was watching a comedy program last night that was referring to his transparent wall

I think Trump got his idea from Netflix after watching the "Dome".


What an idjit! :lol: :lol: :lol:


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15 Jul 2017, 3:26 am

i am going to join the topic with total ignorance as to what trump said about the "transparent wall" because i could not be bothered looking it up (i am also doing other things).

anyway, when i was little and i watched a TV series called "Lost in Space", there was a defense the robinsons had against incursions called a "Force field"

it was never fully explained in the show how it worked except for one reference major west said about a "graviton accelerator", but anyway, they erected these posts around their camp and when they switched on the force field,
there was a shimmering luminescent sheet between each post.
when anything touched this sheet, it was instantly infused with certain type of electricity, and negative gravity resulted and violently threw the object backward away from it.

now that is obviously a fantastic notion, but on a more realistic level, there are a number of "force field" variants one could employ.

erecting posts that transmit microwave energy between them, and creates a "wall" that instantly cooks any meat that tries to pass the line. signs erected at each post say in mexican "stop now or you will be killed"

obviously that is stupid, but it does bear some capacity for amusement when entertained mentally.

so, a much better way to create a transparent wall would be from acrylics like they use in giant aquarium walls.
bullet proof and ram proof transparent acrylics.

this would allow clear surveillance of what is happening on the other side without the necessity for drones that would be shot down anyway.

it would cost a lot however, but would encourage innovation in the methodology for mass production of materials such as this.

but i am probably wrong.



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15 Jul 2017, 5:23 am

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so, a much better way to create a transparent wall would be from acrylics like they use in giant aquarium walls.
bullet proof and ram proof transparent acrylics.


For some reason I recall Tom Cruise using suction cups to scale a sheer wall in Mission Impossible. Nice clear acrylic walls might actually be easier to scale than wire although I'm not a professional people smuggler



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15 Jul 2017, 5:38 am

Trump needs to build a force field wall like the one from Legend of the Seeker.

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Or like the wall from Game of Thrones.

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I mean it's not like those things don't exist.


However apparently transparent aluminum first introduced in Star Trek is now a real thing.



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15 Jul 2017, 7:26 am

cyberdad wrote:
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so, a much better way to create a transparent wall would be from acrylics like they use in giant aquarium walls.
bullet proof and ram proof transparent acrylics.


For some reason I recall Tom Cruise using suction cups to scale a sheer wall in Mission Impossible. Nice clear acrylic walls might actually be easier to scale than wire although I'm not a professional people smuggler

yeah well good luck making it over since you can be seen from the american side, and even better luck is needed if you've got a 100lbs of contraband on your back.



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15 Jul 2017, 10:04 am

Hmmmm....

Or we could leash poisonous snakes to stakes posted at ten foot intervals across the whole length of the US-Mexico border.

Or...
We could make a virtue out of necessity...the necessity of having to deal with the Africanized killer bees already invading the states from Mexico, by placing Africanized hives of bees all along the border so that no one crossing the border could avoid being stung by at least 100 angry killer bees.

Or

combine drone tech with blimps. Just float smart balloons with computerized cameras, and robot ball turret machine guns (like they had on the undersides of WWII bombers), all along the border, that would automatically shoot first and never ask questions at every human target crossing the border. Of course they would have heat cameras for night shooting.



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15 Jul 2017, 12:37 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
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Y'know, as that damn wall is going to get built by impoverishing American even more, as opposed to making Mexico pay for it, it goes to show you how congressional Republicans hate brown, non-English speakers more than they love their own people.


I actually had someone who votes Republican come up and tell me "Donald Trump is making a deal with Taco Bell to create a wall burrito!" like it was supposed to be funny. :roll: Most of the rednecks who want the wall ironically don't mind buying pot from Mexican drug dealers but can you really be surprised with rednecks?

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Actually Canada doesn't do that for white Americans. Canada does not give any particular preference to white people or Americans when it comes to immigration. Canada gives preference to medical doctors and grain farmers.




My first and only real girlfriend's mother was Canadian and she said she couldn't stand American immigrants because they were loud and would ask things like "Do you pay taxes to the Queen of England?" when Elizabeth II has no real power in Canada. She liked me but that's probably because I am not a redneck.


If there was a burrito wall, I'd go down to Texas to eat through it! :lol:


If it happens, I'll let you know since I live in Texas! :wink:



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15 Jul 2017, 3:50 pm

Marknis wrote:
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Y'know, as that damn wall is going to get built by impoverishing American even more, as opposed to making Mexico pay for it, it goes to show you how congressional Republicans hate brown, non-English speakers more than they love their own people.


I actually had someone who votes Republican come up and tell me "Donald Trump is making a deal with Taco Bell to create a wall burrito!" like it was supposed to be funny. :roll: Most of the rednecks who want the wall ironically don't mind buying pot from Mexican drug dealers but can you really be surprised with rednecks?

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Actually Canada doesn't do that for white Americans. Canada does not give any particular preference to white people or Americans when it comes to immigration. Canada gives preference to medical doctors and grain farmers.




My first and only real girlfriend's mother was Canadian and she said she couldn't stand American immigrants because they were loud and would ask things like "Do you pay taxes to the Queen of England?" when Elizabeth II has no real power in Canada. She liked me but that's probably because I am not a redneck.


If there was a burrito wall, I'd go down to Texas to eat through it! :lol:


If it happens, I'll let you know since I live in Texas! :wink:


Thanks! We can eat through it together! :D


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15 Jul 2017, 10:18 pm

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since you can be seen from the american side


How does border security aim to have eyes on all parts of the wall? military satellites?