it was 20 years ago today :( [Princess Diana]

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31 Aug 2017, 11:38 pm

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I remember wondering if at the time, Saint Teresa and Princess Diana were comparing notes in the hereafter.

They both probably ended up down below.


if you don't mind, can you tell me why you say they are both roasting in perdition?



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31 Aug 2017, 11:59 pm

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who here remembers what they were doing/where they were at, when Princess Diana was killed?


was probably sh*****g myself in my sleep.

deaths don't faze me much, even now.


I've said regarding 9/11 that I quite possibly shitted myself when it happened.



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01 Sep 2017, 12:01 am

^^^same for me, only I was awake. :oops:



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01 Sep 2017, 12:03 am

auntblabby wrote:
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auntblabby wrote:
I remember wondering if at the time, Saint Teresa and Princess Diana were comparing notes in the hereafter.

They both probably ended up down below.


if you don't mind, can you tell me why you say they are both roasting in perdition?

Diana was unfaithful numerous times and Teresa's charity seemed mainly about making money, little was spent easing people's suffering and people were even deliberately left untreated as to suffer was deemed important. I believe there were also financial scandals at her charity too. Mother Teresa's public image doesn't really match reality.



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01 Sep 2017, 12:07 am

Chichikov wrote:
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auntblabby wrote:
I remember wondering if at the time, Saint Teresa and Princess Diana were comparing notes in the hereafter.

They both probably ended up down below.


if you don't mind, can you tell me why you say they are both roasting in perdition?

Diana was unfaithful numerous times and Teresa's charity seemed mainly about making money, little was spent easing people's suffering and people were even deliberately left untreated as to suffer was deemed important. I believe there were also financial scandals at her charity too. Mother Teresa's public image doesn't really match reality.

if infidelity was a gauge to measure one's velocity towards the nether regions, PC did not seriously underperform PD.



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01 Sep 2017, 2:13 am

I was doing something in my room music/deejay related with sound equipment. Mom entered the room to inform me of what she just heard on the news. That PD had just died in a traffic accident in a tunnel, and that "it seems to have been caused by the paparazzi chasing after her". Both she and I were too stunned by the news to have any reaction besides being surprised. My girlfriend was a big long time fan of PD though.



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01 Sep 2017, 4:37 am

Somrbody said "Princess Di Died". I thought that person was joking by using a play on words.


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01 Sep 2017, 4:59 am

EzraS wrote:
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who here remembers what they were doing/where they were at, when Princess Diana was killed?


was probably sh*****g myself in my sleep.

deaths don't faze me much, even now.


I've said regarding 9/11 that I quite possibly shitted myself when it happened.


I thought my GF had been sniffing glue when she woke me up screaming "They crashed a plane into the twin towers" , I sat glued to the TV all bleary eyed not really taking it in then after the 2nd plane it was like going catatonic except I could say a few words , mostly expletives


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01 Sep 2017, 9:32 am

I remember where I was when 9/11 happened.

Princess Diana was a nice lady. For some reason, though, I don't remember where I was when she was killed. Saying this, it was a terrible way to go for Diana.



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01 Sep 2017, 10:22 am

I was going to go out for a run that morning but switched on the TV for a while. It was just being reported as breaking news. So shocked that I didn't go for my run at all that day.


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01 Sep 2017, 10:34 am

I can't say for sure, but I strongly suspect I was smoking pot with my neighbor in his garage.


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01 Sep 2017, 11:16 am

Technically yesterday, August 31st, yes. I was at home watching TV that evening, when news broke in that there had been an accident in Paris.

At first, the news was she had only been injured. Then later it was confirmed she died.

I was utterly shocked at the tragedy of it all. I did cry, and I watched the funeral coverage and yes I was in tears. I have had tragedy in my life and it has sensitized me to it in a way I never used to be when I was younger.

I felt the Royal Family acted very cold about the whole thing.

I'm not a conspiracy theory person but I would not be at all surprised if it every came out that they actually wanted to set things up so that something like this might happen. I'm not going to argue about that -- I'm not married to the idea but I'm saying I wouldn't put ANYTHING past that bunch of jerks. Not a fan of the royals per se.

I felt for Diana because I think she was treated like a piece of s**t by that family, who are cold and toxic and hidebound.

Oddly I had also been going through a deteriorating marriage at about the same time as hers was collapsing, and I related a tiny bit.

I went to Kensington Palace yesterday on the anniversary. 20 years ago I was living 5,000 miles away or I would have been there then. So now that I'm back in the 'hood I went yesterday.

It was a surprisingly upbeat, nice, calm atmosphere among the crowd there. NOBODY cried -- everyone was just very calm and it felt like it was more about quietly appreciating her now, at this point. It was lovely to be there and I really enjoyed the day.

Nobody wants Charles as King. Lot of people hope he steps aside and it's William.



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01 Sep 2017, 11:18 am

How come they don't like Charles, but they like William?



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01 Sep 2017, 11:23 am

The most important part of Diana's death remains her letter about a "planned accident" to her butler, Paul Burrell ( http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/ho ... 18671.html ). Unless he manufactured the letter himself or conspired to have others do it for him, it is quite convincing and damning.

I understand that Burrell has made some poor choices in his professional and public relations since then, but again, the letter exists in Diana's handwriting.


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01 Sep 2017, 11:25 am

They like William because she's Diana's son and he seems to express a more warm and human and hands-on version of British royalty than we've ever seen before, and it's attributed to Diana's determination to instill those things in her boys.

I mean he's still "establishment" at the end of the day, but people like him because he seems more modern -- he has talked openly about mental health, depression, his own grief about his mother.

The Queen has apparently been more or less wishing he'd shut the fck up, lmao. She doesn't want him to be this open with the public.

I say bring in the new.

People don't like Charles because of two categories of reason -- one is obviously the people who side with Diana's end of the stick, and resent Charles for never really having loved her, for cheating on her FIRST, (and it was HE who cheated on her FIRST), and basically just for being the cold husband who told her to pull herself together rather than facing the real issues.

That whole family GASLIGHTED this girl (and she was a girl then).

Anyway, back to the question. Most of Britain more or less thinks Charles is a total twit. Not many like Camilla. That couple are tainted with the bad feelings people have about the sham of a marriage Diana was put through. She was a lamb to the slaughter when he should have just married Camilla all along.

Polls taken seem to show that many people just wish Charles would step away and let William come after the Queen.



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01 Sep 2017, 11:33 am

BirdInFlight wrote:
They like William because she's Diana's son and he seems to express a more warm and human and hands-on version of British royalty than we've ever seen before, and it's attributed to Diana's determination to instill those things in her boys.

I mean he's still "establishment" at the end of the day, but people like him because he seems more modern -- he has talked openly about mental health, depression, his own grief about his mother.

The Queen has apparently been more or less wishing he'd shut the fck up, lmao. She doesn't want him to be this open with the public.

I say bring in the new.

People don't like Charles because of two categories of reason -- one is obviously the people who side with Diana's end of the stick, and resent Charles for never really having loved her, for cheating on her FIRST, (and it was HE who cheated on her FIRST), and basically just for being the cold husband who told her to pull herself together rather than facing the real issues.

That whole family GASLIGHTED this girl (and she was a girl then).

Anyway, back to the question. Most of Britain more or less thinks Charles is a total twit. Not many like Camilla. That couple are tainted with the bad feelings people have about the sham of a marriage Diana was put through. She was a lamb to the slaughter when he should have just married Camilla all along.

Polls taken seem to show that many people just wish Charles would step away and let William come after the Queen.

I agree. But, I also see little to like about William and Harry. They did humiliate themselves when they slaughtered almost every living thing at one of Prince Philip's hunting preserves in a single day. Even Philip apparently lost his [relative] cool over it. That display alone showed me that the boys learned nothing from their mother during the years she was alive ... or, they were willing to forget it all. And, Harry keeps getting bad attention with his recently photographed Las Vegas orgy, and his wearing of a Nazi uniform at a teen-age party some years ago.


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