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07 Dec 2017, 8:47 pm

/\They have Jewish only highways?What happens if you drive on one and you're not Jewish??
The checkpoints sound awful.


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07 Dec 2017, 8:53 pm

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He's not declared war on all Muslims, that's just tripe. He's declaring war on the Palestinians. All that nonsense about Putin being his master, when in reality it is Kushner and Netanyahu. See, the people getting angry are the Palestinians in the West Bank, the ones that are being racially colonized by the alleged chosen race of God, who have to live beside Israel's racial colonies. Drive on dirt road and go through army checkpoints while the chosen race go on Jewish only highways. If you're blabbing on about religion, you have zero idea what you are talking about and just have been made gullible by the disinformation specialists that are the mainstream media. The main anger is because East Jerusalem is occupied Palestinian territory under International Law and this just shows the US and Israel have no interest in peace and a future Palestinian state. At least Trump doesn't pretend to be such.


When I saw this thread I was most interested in hearing your perspective on the situation.



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07 Dec 2017, 9:31 pm

Makes me wonder if he's really that oblivious to the fallout from such a declaration or if he knew exactly what to expect and did it anyways just to stir the pot in hopes of religious war breaking out? Maybe he sees war as good for business in order to sell American made weapons? Maybe he's seeking a genocidal war? Maybe he's completely unaware & oblivious and Steve Bannon has been continuing to push his buttons and pull his strings & this is the result?

No matter what I just hope the loss of human life is minimal.


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07 Dec 2017, 11:26 pm

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He's not declared war on all Muslims, that's just tripe. He's declaring war on the Palestinians. All that nonsense about Putin being his master, when in reality it is Kushner and Netanyahu. See, the people getting angry are the Palestinians in the West Bank, the ones that are being racially colonized by the alleged chosen race of God, who have to live beside Israel's racial colonies. Drive on dirt road and go through army checkpoints while the chosen race go on Jewish only highways. If you're blabbing on about religion, you have zero idea what you are talking about and just have been made gullible by the disinformation specialists that are the mainstream media. The main anger is because East Jerusalem is occupied Palestinian territory under International Law and this just shows the US and Israel have no interest in peace and a future Palestinian state. At least Trump doesn't pretend to be such.


Many people are ignorant about the existence of Palestinian Christians. They are suffering as much as the Palestinian Muslims. The Israelis try to blame the plight of the Palestinian Christians on the Muslims, but the Christians there say it is the Israelis that present a problem.

The Christian community in Bethlehem -- the oldest Christian community in the world -- is really in trouble. Most have already fled the country. If they return for a visit with their relatives, they are likely to be questioned for 10 or more hours, strip searched, denied entry, forced to buy a return ticket right then, and put on an airplane to leave.

The Christians in Israel itself have it better, but there are many reports of the more hateful Orthodox Jews spitting on them because they consider the Christians to have no right to be there.



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08 Dec 2017, 4:34 am

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/\They have Jewish only highways?What happens if you drive on one and you're not Jewish??
The checkpoints sound awful.


Yes, and building Jewish only cities on stolen land. Sometimes the new houses are built by bulldozing the Palestinian homes down first. I doubt that happens very often as there is a separate number plate system for Jews and Palestinians. As well as the checkpoints. Some Palestinians drove on the roads in 2012 as a protest and they were arrested and their cars were seized.


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08 Dec 2017, 4:34 am

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He's not declared war on all Muslims, that's just tripe. He's declaring war on the Palestinians. All that nonsense about Putin being his master, when in reality it is Kushner and Netanyahu. See, the people getting angry are the Palestinians in the West Bank, the ones that are being racially colonized by the alleged chosen race of God, who have to live beside Israel's racial colonies. Drive on dirt road and go through army checkpoints while the chosen race go on Jewish only highways. If you're blabbing on about religion, you have zero idea what you are talking about and just have been made gullible by the disinformation specialists that are the mainstream media. The main anger is because East Jerusalem is occupied Palestinian territory under International Law and this just shows the US and Israel have no interest in peace and a future Palestinian state. At least Trump doesn't pretend to be such.


When I saw this thread I was most interested in hearing your perspective on the situation.


Thanks!


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08 Dec 2017, 4:37 am

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Makes me wonder if he's really that oblivious to the fallout from such a declaration or if he knew exactly what to expect and did it anyways just to stir the pot in hopes of religious war breaking out? Maybe he sees war as good for business in order to sell American made weapons? Maybe he's seeking a genocidal war? Maybe he's completely unaware & oblivious and Steve Bannon has been continuing to push his buttons and pull his strings & this is the result?

No matter what I just hope the loss of human life is minimal.


Definitely more Kushner pushing the buttons. I think they're trying to get an aggressive reaction. They'll probably arrest and torture the people protesting in the West Bank. Shoot a few people with 'rubber' bullets.


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08 Dec 2017, 4:39 am

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/\They have Jewish only highways?What happens if you drive on one and you're not Jewish??
The checkpoints sound awful.


And the worst thing about the roads and checkpoints is that if you're an American taxpayer, you've payed for them.


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JohnPowell wrote:
He's not declared war on all Muslims, that's just tripe. He's declaring war on the Palestinians. All that nonsense about Putin being his master, when in reality it is Kushner and Netanyahu. See, the people getting angry are the Palestinians in the West Bank, the ones that are being racially colonized by the alleged chosen race of God, who have to live beside Israel's racial colonies. Drive on dirt road and go through army checkpoints while the chosen race go on Jewish only highways. If you're blabbing on about religion, you have zero idea what you are talking about and just have been made gullible by the disinformation specialists that are the mainstream media. The main anger is because East Jerusalem is occupied Palestinian territory under International Law and this just shows the US and Israel have no interest in peace and a future Palestinian state. At least Trump doesn't pretend to be such.


Many people are ignorant about the existence of Palestinian Christians. They are suffering as much as the Palestinian Muslims. The Israelis try to blame the plight of the Palestinian Christians on the Muslims, but the Christians there say it is the Israelis that present a problem.

The Christian community in Bethlehem -- the oldest Christian community in the world -- is really in trouble. Most have already fled the country. If they return for a visit with their relatives, they are likely to be questioned for 10 or more hours, strip searched, denied entry, forced to buy a return ticket right then, and put on an airplane to leave.

The Christians in Israel itself have it better, but there are many reports of the more hateful Orthodox Jews spitting on them because they consider the Christians to have no right to be there.


I just find it crazy that Christians in the US support Israel for the most part.


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08 Dec 2017, 5:06 am

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goldfish21 wrote:
Makes me wonder if he's really that oblivious to the fallout from such a declaration or if he knew exactly what to expect and did it anyways just to stir the pot in hopes of religious war breaking out? Maybe he sees war as good for business in order to sell American made weapons? Maybe he's seeking a genocidal war? Maybe he's completely unaware & oblivious and Steve Bannon has been continuing to push his buttons and pull his strings & this is the result?

No matter what I just hope the loss of human life is minimal.


Definitely more Kushner pushing the buttons. I think they're trying to get an aggressive reaction. They'll probably arrest and torture the people protesting in the West Bank. Shoot a few people with 'rubber' bullets.


Hmm, probably Kushner, yeah. What good does getting an aggressive reaction do them? Turn up the war machine and sell a bunch of weapons & ammo? Is there oil or other resources to steal? Or more simple than that: Just good old fashioned hate and they want to see a loss of Muslim lives?


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08 Dec 2017, 9:10 am

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/\They have Jewish only highways?What happens if you drive on one and you're not Jewish??
The checkpoints sound awful.


Yes, and building Jewish only cities on stolen land. Sometimes the new houses are built by bulldozing the Palestinian homes down first. I doubt that happens very often as there is a separate number plate system for Jews and Palestinians. As well as the checkpoints. Some Palestinians drove on the roads in 2012 as a protest and they were arrested and their cars were seized.

I was aware of the old olive groves being destroyed but had no idea of a segregated highway.Thats just wrong on so many ways.What if you needed to get someone to the hospital and couldn't use the highway?


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08 Dec 2017, 1:18 pm

Misslizard wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
/\They have Jewish only highways?What happens if you drive on one and you're not Jewish??
The checkpoints sound awful.


Yes, and building Jewish only cities on stolen land. Sometimes the new houses are built by bulldozing the Palestinian homes down first. I doubt that happens very often as there is a separate number plate system for Jews and Palestinians. As well as the checkpoints. Some Palestinians drove on the roads in 2012 as a protest and they were arrested and their cars were seized.

I was aware of the old olive groves being destroyed but had no idea of a segregated highway.Thats just wrong on so many ways.What if you needed to get someone to the hospital and couldn't use the highway?


Oh dear, there's a lot of people on here who believe the propaganda. Israeli (including Israeli Arabs, you know the ones with more rights than in Arab countries) have had to segregate themselves from the Palestinians after countless terror attacks. It is way too easy to blame the 4 million Jews, rather than the 100 million barbarians that surround them.



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08 Dec 2017, 2:22 pm

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Misslizard wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
/\They have Jewish only highways?What happens if you drive on one and you're not Jewish??
The checkpoints sound awful.


Yes, and building Jewish only cities on stolen land. Sometimes the new houses are built by bulldozing the Palestinian homes down first. I doubt that happens very often as there is a separate number plate system for Jews and Palestinians. As well as the checkpoints. Some Palestinians drove on the roads in 2012 as a protest and they were arrested and their cars were seized.

I was aware of the old olive groves being destroyed but had no idea of a segregated highway.Thats just wrong on so many ways.What if you needed to get someone to the hospital and couldn't use the highway?


Oh dear, there's a lot of people on here who believe the propaganda. Israeli (including Israeli Arabs, you know the ones with more rights than in Arab countries) have had to segregate themselves from the Palestinians after countless terror attacks. It is way too easy to blame the 4 million Jews, rather than the 100 million barbarians that surround them.


Well I don't think those terror attacks came out of nowhere, obviously something motivated them. Also the Palestinian 'terror attacks' are much much much less severe than Israel's retaliation to them. I think more Palestinian civilians have died as a result of Israeli response to make-shift rockets being fired from terrorists in Palestine than civilians dying from the Palestinian attacks.


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08 Dec 2017, 2:27 pm

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Makes me wonder if he's really that oblivious to the fallout from such a declaration or if he knew exactly what to expect and did it anyways just to stir the pot in hopes of religious war breaking out? Maybe he sees war as good for business in order to sell American made weapons? Maybe he's seeking a genocidal war? Maybe he's completely unaware & oblivious and Steve Bannon has been continuing to push his buttons and pull his strings & this is the result?

No matter what I just hope the loss of human life is minimal.


Definitely more Kushner pushing the buttons. I think they're trying to get an aggressive reaction. They'll probably arrest and torture the people protesting in the West Bank. Shoot a few people with 'rubber' bullets.


Hmm, probably Kushner, yeah. What good does getting an aggressive reaction do them? Turn up the war machine and sell a bunch of weapons & ammo? Is there oil or other resources to steal? Or more simple than that: Just good old fashioned hate and they want to see a loss of Muslim lives?


Pretty much yeah. Israel might be craving another war, like the junkies they are. They just like Palestinians to react aggressively so they can point the finger. I think there's nothing left to steal apart from the gradual annexation of the rest of Palestine.


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Misslizard wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
/\They have Jewish only highways?What happens if you drive on one and you're not Jewish??
The checkpoints sound awful.


Yes, and building Jewish only cities on stolen land. Sometimes the new houses are built by bulldozing the Palestinian homes down first. I doubt that happens very often as there is a separate number plate system for Jews and Palestinians. As well as the checkpoints. Some Palestinians drove on the roads in 2012 as a protest and they were arrested and their cars were seized.

I was aware of the old olive groves being destroyed but had no idea of a segregated highway.Thats just wrong on so many ways.What if you needed to get someone to the hospital and couldn't use the highway?


People have died because of ambulances being held up at checkpoints. Last month or so there was some kind of Jewish holiday celebration and they wouldn't let Palestinians get back to their homes even though they were a couple of hundred yards away. It's just constant.


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Misslizard wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
/\They have Jewish only highways?What happens if you drive on one and you're not Jewish??
The checkpoints sound awful.


Yes, and building Jewish only cities on stolen land. Sometimes the new houses are built by bulldozing the Palestinian homes down first. I doubt that happens very often as there is a separate number plate system for Jews and Palestinians. As well as the checkpoints. Some Palestinians drove on the roads in 2012 as a protest and they were arrested and their cars were seized.

I was aware of the old olive groves being destroyed but had no idea of a segregated highway.Thats just wrong on so many ways.What if you needed to get someone to the hospital and couldn't use the highway?


Oh dear, there's a lot of people on here who believe the propaganda. Israeli (including Israeli Arabs, you know the ones with more rights than in Arab countries) have had to segregate themselves from the Palestinians after countless terror attacks. It is way too easy to blame the 4 million Jews, rather than the 100 million barbarians that surround them.


What propaganda? How nice of the colonists to let the native population live averagely. All well and good, unless you have a Jordanian passport, then you are basically trapped. More rights? They have laws stopping Palestinians marrying Israeli Jews. Don't want to spoil the gene pool.

Yeah the poor Israeli victims. They have hundreds of nukes and full support of the most powerful military in the world, have attacked all of their neighbours and they are the victims! Talk about propaganda.


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