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22 Jan 2018, 12:56 pm

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I never thought of it that way. :lol:


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28 Jan 2018, 1:59 pm

So a man not wanting to kiss another man equals homophobia? I just don't see how... Some people think (being gay) is disgusting and tbh there's nothing wrong with having that opinion, nobody should be demonized for having that opinion.

I think it's terrible that poor guy was murdered though, but at the same time gay people need to be very wary of who they make sexual advances to especially if they don't know whether the other individual is gay or not.



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28 Jan 2018, 2:11 pm

Kristaok wrote:
So a man not wanting to kiss another man equals homophobia? I just don't see how... Some people think (being gay) is disgusting and tbh there's nothing wrong with having that opinion, nobody should be demonized for having that opinion.

I think it's terrible that poor guy was murdered though, but at the same time gay people need to be very wary of who they make sexual advances to especially if they don't know whether the other individual is gay or not.


Regardless of what some people might think of homosexuals, no one has a right to commit murder simply for the amorous conduct of another.


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28 Jan 2018, 2:28 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
Kristaok wrote:
So a man not wanting to kiss another man equals homophobia? I just don't see how... Some people think (being gay) is disgusting and tbh there's nothing wrong with having that opinion, nobody should be demonized for having that opinion.

I think it's terrible that poor guy was murdered though, but at the same time gay people need to be very wary of who they make sexual advances to especially if they don't know whether the other individual is gay or not.


Regardless of what some people might think of homosexuals, no one has a right to commit murder simply for the amorous conduct of another.


I agree with you, that's what I said, but again a gay person cannot just go smooching around on anyone they please without any sort of repercussions. Some people don't take too kindly to being countered and sexually harassed especially by a gay person if they're not gay and against that lifestyle.

I'm not saying murdering someone is okay, but that's kind of what happens when people cannot keep their hands and lips to themselves.

The lgbtq cry homophobia, intolerance, and they say they need more rights, well I'd like to see them parade around half naked screaming those things over in Iran and see what happens.

Edit: I see a lot of people on the gay persons side, yet nobody has said anything against what the gay person was doing, he was essentially committing sexual harassment.



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28 Jan 2018, 2:42 pm

Kristaok wrote:
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Kristaok wrote:
So a man not wanting to kiss another man equals homophobia? I just don't see how... Some people think (being gay) is disgusting and tbh there's nothing wrong with having that opinion, nobody should be demonized for having that opinion.

I think it's terrible that poor guy was murdered though, but at the same time gay people need to be very wary of who they make sexual advances to especially if they don't know whether the other individual is gay or not.


Regardless of what some people might think of homosexuals, no one has a right to commit murder simply for the amorous conduct of another.


I agree with you, that's what I said, but again a gay person cannot just go smooching around on anyone they please without any sort of repercussions. Some people don't take too kindly to being countered and sexually harassed especially by a gay person if they're not gay and against that lifestyle.

I'm not saying murdering someone is okay, but that's kind of what happens when people cannot keep their hands and lips to themselves.

The lgbtq cry homophobia, intolerance, and they say they need more rights, well I'd like to see them parade around half naked screaming those things over in Iran and see what happens.

Edit: I see a lot of people on the gay persons side, yet nobody has said anything against what the gay person was doing, he was essentially committing sexual harassment.


But there have been plenty of straight men who have forced a kiss on women, and they don't get murdered.


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28 Jan 2018, 4:22 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
Kristaok wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Kristaok wrote:
So a man not wanting to kiss another man equals homophobia? I just don't see how... Some people think (being gay) is disgusting and tbh there's nothing wrong with having that opinion, nobody should be demonized for having that opinion.

I think it's terrible that poor guy was murdered though, but at the same time gay people need to be very wary of who they make sexual advances to especially if they don't know whether the other individual is gay or not.


Regardless of what some people might think of homosexuals, no one has a right to commit murder simply for the amorous conduct of another.


I agree with you, that's what I said, but again a gay person cannot just go smooching around on anyone they please without any sort of repercussions. Some people don't take too kindly to being countered and sexually harassed especially by a gay person if they're not gay and against that lifestyle.

I'm not saying murdering someone is okay, but that's kind of what happens when people cannot keep their hands and lips to themselves.

The lgbtq cry homophobia, intolerance, and they say they need more rights, well I'd like to see them parade around half naked screaming those things over in Iran and see what happens.

Edit: I see a lot of people on the gay persons side, yet nobody has said anything against what the gay person was doing, he was essentially committing sexual harassment.


But there have been plenty of straight men who have forced a kiss on women, and they don't get murdered.


Not necessarily... I've seen many times where women have murdered men and even where men have murdered women.

At the end of the day though I'm not saying what he did was okay, BUT the homosexual man kind of opened himself up to that by forcing himself on that man.



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28 Jan 2018, 10:54 pm

Kristaok wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Kristaok wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Kristaok wrote:
So a man not wanting to kiss another man equals homophobia? I just don't see how... Some people think (being gay) is disgusting and tbh there's nothing wrong with having that opinion, nobody should be demonized for having that opinion.

I think it's terrible that poor guy was murdered though, but at the same time gay people need to be very wary of who they make sexual advances to especially if they don't know whether the other individual is gay or not.


Regardless of what some people might think of homosexuals, no one has a right to commit murder simply for the amorous conduct of another.


I agree with you, that's what I said, but again a gay person cannot just go smooching around on anyone they please without any sort of repercussions. Some people don't take too kindly to being countered and sexually harassed especially by a gay person if they're not gay and against that lifestyle.

I'm not saying murdering someone is okay, but that's kind of what happens when people cannot keep their hands and lips to themselves.

The lgbtq cry homophobia, intolerance, and they say they need more rights, well I'd like to see them parade around half naked screaming those things over in Iran and see what happens.

Edit: I see a lot of people on the gay persons side, yet nobody has said anything against what the gay person was doing, he was essentially committing sexual harassment.


But there have been plenty of straight men who have forced a kiss on women, and they don't get murdered.


Not necessarily... I've seen many times where women have murdered men and even where men have murdered women.

At the end of the day though I'm not saying what he did was okay, BUT the homosexual man kind of opened himself up to that by forcing himself on that man.


Absolutely not! Taking another human life, with the exceptions of certain circumstance, is unacceptable.


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29 Jan 2018, 1:30 pm

Blaze Bernstein’s alleged killer belonged to violent neo-Nazi group

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The 20-year-old former classmate of Jewish college student Blaze Bernstein, charged in his murder, belonged to an extremist neo-Nazi group.

Samuel Woodward is an “avowed Nazi” and a member of Atomwaffen Division, an extremist neo-Nazi group, the ProPublica news website reported.

ProPublica, a non-profit investigative news website, cited three people with “detailed knowledge” of Woodward’s recent past who said Woodward was a member of the Atomwaffen Division, an armed Fascist group with the ultimate aim of overthrowing the U.S. government through the use of terrorism and guerrilla warfare. Two of the sources are Woodward’s friends, the third is a former member of the group.

Atomwaffen started in 2015 and is estimated to have about 80 members scattered around the country in small cells.

Woodward joined the organization in early 2016 and later traveled to Texas to attend Atomwaffen meetings and a three-day training camp, which involved instruction in firearms, hand-to-hand combat, camping and survival skills, ProPublica reported citing the former member.

Social media posts and chats shared with ProPublica by Woodward’s friends show that he openly described himself as a “National Socialist” or Nazi. He “was as anti-Semitic as you can get,” one of the sources told ProPublica.

Atomwaffen was connected to a double homicide in December in Virginia when a 17-year-old boy allegedly shot and killed his girlfriend’s parents after they convinced her not to see him anymore calling him an “outspoken neo Nazi.”

The teen killed Buckley Kuhn-Fricker and Scott Fricker, and shot himself, but survived. He reportedly was an avid fan of Atomwaffen, the Huffington Post reported.


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29 Jan 2018, 2:57 pm

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Blaze Bernstein’s alleged killer belonged to violent neo-Nazi group
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The 20-year-old former classmate of Jewish college student Blaze Bernstein, charged in his murder, belonged to an extremist neo-Nazi group.

Samuel Woodward is an “avowed Nazi” and a member of Atomwaffen Division, an extremist neo-Nazi group, the ProPublica news website reported.

ProPublica, a non-profit investigative news website, cited three people with “detailed knowledge” of Woodward’s recent past who said Woodward was a member of the Atomwaffen Division, an armed Fascist group with the ultimate aim of overthrowing the U.S. government through the use of terrorism and guerrilla warfare. Two of the sources are Woodward’s friends, the third is a former member of the group.

Atomwaffen started in 2015 and is estimated to have about 80 members scattered around the country in small cells.

Woodward joined the organization in early 2016 and later traveled to Texas to attend Atomwaffen meetings and a three-day training camp, which involved instruction in firearms, hand-to-hand combat, camping and survival skills, ProPublica reported citing the former member.

Social media posts and chats shared with ProPublica by Woodward’s friends show that he openly described himself as a “National Socialist” or Nazi. He “was as anti-Semitic as you can get,” one of the sources told ProPublica.

Atomwaffen was connected to a double homicide in December in Virginia when a 17-year-old boy allegedly shot and killed his girlfriend’s parents after they convinced her not to see him anymore calling him an “outspoken neo Nazi.”

The teen killed Buckley Kuhn-Fricker and Scott Fricker, and shot himself, but survived. He reportedly was an avid fan of Atomwaffen, the Huffington Post reported.


Atomwaffen Division sounds like an organization that should be listed as a domestic terrorist organization. But I doubt that's going to happen under this President and his administration.


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